[DeTomaso] The “REAL” Pantera Club

Dick Koch redcatman74 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 25 20:30:08 EDT 2016


Jeff, great post, putting the Pantera brethren in the proper light for all
to see.

Hopefully your thoughts will hit a nerve with the folks that as you say are
the new "guard" that will carry on the helpful comraderie that makes owning
a Pantera  a great experience.

Dick Koch

On Jul 25, 2016 7:58 PM, "Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso" <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>
>     In my combined 25 years plus owning 2 Panteras I have never been a
>    member of POCA or PI. I have occasionally posted on the e-mail list and
>    slightly more often on the PI forum.
>    I have been a member of what I feel is a very unique, outstanding group
>    of individuals which I consider a true representation of the aREALa
>    Pantera Club. This club has no BOD, no by-laws, no membership dues etc.
>
>    It started with my first contact with Gary Hall in the 70s. He
>    patiently helped me with Pantera #4060. And even had me join his
>    wonderful family for dinner when I visited LA. When I purchased #4134
>    in 94 I was fortunate enough to find local help in the form of aThe
>    Pantera Placeaas Mike Daily and Dick Koch. Hands on help for me the
>    mechanically challenged along with countless phone calls. Through the
>    years I have been blessed to have had Jack Deryke patiently respond to
>    my countless e-mail questions I was too embarrassed to ask on the list
>    or forum. And Bill Taylor, just friggin WoW!  Years ago he fabricated
>    for me the tools and a special jig to remove my a-arm bushings.  Jon
>    Hass (Pantera Electronics) the quiet engineer who designs the hell out
>    of Pantera specific components. He has even helped me with Pantera
>    electrical issues not related to his products. Going as far as to help
>    me with Jeep electrical problems. I have had owners send me parts that
>    they could have easily sold, given for free. Not even willing to take
>    reimbursement for shipping. I probably will never meet these wonderful
>    people in person but consider them friends. Without their invaluable
>    assistance I probably would have sold my car years ago.
>    These individuals and countless other Pantera owners are what has made
>    Pantera ownership for me a pleasure. I may be wrong here but I would be
>    hard pressed to think there are other car clubs with this many kind,
>    generous and supportive individuals.
>    The reason I felt inclined to write this e-mail is not really for
>    current owners. All of you I know have similar experiences to mine. It
>    is for the new or more importantly perspective Pantera owners. This
>    e-mail is for them, those lurking just wanting to see what kind of
>    support network exists in the Pantera world. From the e-mail postings
>    since the last POCA elections you would think as a perspective new
>    owner that this is the most dysfunctional group of people ever. And
>    awhy oh why would I want to be a part of thisa? So this e-mail post is
>    my contribution to the e-mail archives. Telling Pantera owners for
>    decades, new owners and, perspective owners that the "REAL" Pantera
>    club is not POCA and not PI. But hundreds of Pantera owners who make up
>    one hell of an unofficial club. People who will help you in countless
>    ways asking nothing in return.
>    Thank you Pantera friends.
>
>    Jeff Udelson
>    #4134
>    Atlanta GA USA
>
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   Jeff, great post, putting the Pantera brethren in the proper light for
   all to see.A

   Hopefully your thoughts will hit a nerve with the folks that as you say
   are the new "guard" that will carry on the helpful comraderie that
   makes owning a PanteraA  a great experience.

   Dick Koch

   On Jul 25, 2016 7:58 PM, "Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     A  A  In my combined 25 years plus owning 2 Panteras I have never
     been a
     A  A member of POCA or PI. I have occasionally posted on the e-mail
     list and
     A  A slightly more often on the PI forum.
     A  A I have been a member of what I feel is a very unique,
     outstanding group
     A  A of individuals which I consider a true representation of the
     aREALa
     A  A Pantera Club. This club has no BOD, no by-laws, no membership
     dues etc.
     A  A It started with my first contact with Gary Hall in the 70s. He
     A  A patiently helped me with Pantera #4060. And even had me join
     his
     A  A wonderful family for dinner when I visited LA. When I purchased
     #4134
     A  A in 94 I was fortunate enough to find local help in the form of
     aThe
     A  A Pantera Placeaas Mike Daily and Dick Koch. Hands on help for me
     the
     A  A mechanically challenged along with countless phone calls.
     Through the
     A  A years I have been blessed to have had Jack Deryke patiently
     respond to
     A  A my countless e-mail questions I was too embarrassed to ask on
     the list
     A  A or forum. And Bill Taylor, just friggin WoW!A  Years ago he
     fabricated
     A  A for me the tools and a special jig to remove my a-arm
     bushings.A  Jon
     A  A Hass (Pantera Electronics) the quiet engineer who designs the
     hell out
     A  A of Pantera specific components. He has even helped me with
     Pantera
     A  A electrical issues not related to his products. Going as far as
     to help
     A  A me with Jeep electrical problems. I have had owners send me
     parts that
     A  A they could have easily sold, given for free. Not even willing
     to take
     A  A reimbursement for shipping. I probably will never meet these
     wonderful
     A  A people in person but consider them friends. Without their
     invaluable
     A  A assistance I probably would have sold my car years ago.
     A  A These individuals and countless other Pantera owners are what
     has made
     A  A Pantera ownership for me a pleasure. I may be wrong here but I
     would be
     A  A hard pressed to think there are other car clubs with this many
     kind,
     A  A generous and supportive individuals.
     A  A The reason I felt inclined to write this e-mail is not really
     for
     A  A current owners. All of you I know have similar experiences to
     mine. It
     A  A is for the new or more importantly perspective Pantera owners.
     This
     A  A e-mail is for them, those lurking just wanting to see what kind
     of
     A  A support network exists in the Pantera world. From the e-mail
     postings
     A  A since the last POCA elections you would think as a perspective
     new
     A  A owner that this is the most dysfunctional group of people ever.
     And
     A  A awhy oh why would I want to be a part of thisa? So this e-mail
     post is
     A  A my contribution to the e-mail archives. Telling Pantera owners
     for
     A  A decades, new owners and, perspective owners that the "REAL"
     Pantera
     A  A club is not POCA and not PI. But hundreds of Pantera owners who
     make up
     A  A one hell of an unofficial club. People who will help you in
     countless
     A  A ways asking nothing in return.
     A  A Thank you Pantera friends.
     A  A Jeff Udelson
     A  A #4134
     A  A Atlanta GA USA
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