[DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sun Jul 24 12:57:57 EDT 2016


Dennis,

Did you cut the wire out of the harness, or does it simply unplug somewhere upstream?

Mike

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On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:44, Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just to follow up. I found the frayed wire on the right front pad.  Changed to the Porterfield pads at the same time.   I'll make another post with pictures of the steps that weren't easily understood in changing pads on a Pantera.  Most of you veterans know well, but for rookies like me the pictures are helpful 😉
> 
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> Dennis Valdez 
> 
> On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dennis,
>> 
>> I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I had really bad wheel juttering.  Make sure you test them thoroughly before possibly taking them to the track for a track day.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> To: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> 
>> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "Pantera List detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
>> 
>>   Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have
>>   some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's
>>   time...
>> 
>>   Dennis
>> 
>>   On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith
>>   <[1]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>   This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the
>>   steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the
>>   lamp.
>> 
>>   Marshall
>> 
>>   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>>     -------- Original message --------
>>     From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
>>     <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>     Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>     To: Mike Drew <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "Pantera List
>>     [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>>     <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
>>     Thanks Mike,
>>     So here is my problem.  I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake
>>     hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac
>>     Restorations.  Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works
>>     great except the pad sensor light now stays on.  I was expecting the
>>     shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that
>>     did not happen.
>>     I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly
>>     new from looking at them last year.  The sensor wires were zip tied
>>     to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines.  I'm
>>     wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how
>>     they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines.
>>     I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a
>>     bit and see if the light goes off.  Any other Ideas?
>>     Thanks,
>>     Dennis
>>     > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>     wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Dennis,
>>     >
>>     > You got it exactly right!  Those two lights cover those three
>>     functions.
>>     >
>>     > Mike
>>     >
>>     > Sent from my iPhone
>>     >
>>     >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
>>     <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>  Hi Folks,
>>     >>  Got a simple question.  What are the two warning lights left of
>>     the
>>     >>  Speedo on the L model?  The red owners manual is not clear on
>>     this as
>>     >>  it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number
>>     call-outs
>>     >>  are suspect.
>>     >>  The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for
>>     general
>>     >>  hydraulic failure in the system.  I think the lower one (yellow)
>>     is a
>>     >>  brake wear sensor light.  Anything else that triggers these?
>>     >> <FullSizeRender.jpg>
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   Dennis,

   Did you cut the wire out of the harness, or does it simply unplug
   somewhere upstream?

   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone

   On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:44, Dennis Valdez <[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   wrote:

   Just to follow up. I found the frayed wire on the right front pad.
   Changed to the Porterfield pads at the same time.   I'll make another
   post with pictures of the steps that weren't easily understood in
   changing pads on a Pantera.  Most of you veterans know well, but for
   rookies like me the pictures are helpful

   <image1.JPG>
   <image2.JPG>
   Dennis Valdez

   On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Jim Wallace <[2]pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>
   wrote:

   Dennis,
   I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I
   had really bad wheel juttering.  Make sure you test them thoroughly
   before possibly taking them to the track for a track day.
   Jim
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   To: marshallgsmith <[4]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
   Cc: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "Pantera List
   [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
     Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have
     some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's
     time...
     Dennis
     On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith
     <[1][8]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
     This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the
     steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the
     lamp.
     Marshall
     Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
       -------- Original message --------
       From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
       <[2][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
       To: Mike Drew <[3][10]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "Pantera List
       [4][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
       <[5][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
       Thanks Mike,
       So here is my problem.  I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake
       hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac
       Restorations.  Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works
       great except the pad sensor light now stays on.  I was expecting
   the
       shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but
   that
       did not happen.
       I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are
   nearly
       new from looking at them last year.  The sensor wires were zip tied
       to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines.  I'm
       wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how
       they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines.
       I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a
       bit and see if the light goes off.  Any other Ideas?
       Thanks,
       Dennis
       > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6][13]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
       wrote:
       >
       > Dennis,
       >
       > You got it exactly right!  Those two lights cover those three
       functions.
       >
       > Mike
       >
       > Sent from my iPhone
       >
       >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
       <[7][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
       >>
       >>  Hi Folks,
       >>  Got a simple question.  What are the two warning lights left of
       the
       >>  Speedo on the L model?  The red owners manual is not clear on
       this as
       >>  it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number
       call-outs
       >>  are suspect.
       >>  The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for
       general
       >>  hydraulic failure in the system.  I think the lower one
   (yellow)
       is a
       >>  brake wear sensor light.  Anything else that triggers these?
       >> <FullSizeRender.jpg>
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