[DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Jul 23 16:01:13 EDT 2016


World domination?

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <paso750 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal
> was.
> I still haven't figured it out.
> Mike Haney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM
> To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly'
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
> You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car
> club?  The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous.  The
> hole just gets deeper and deeper.  You read about crap like this going
> on to
> gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a
> car club.
> Ken
>
>       From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>  To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>;
> 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms at live.com>
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>  Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
> Dear Ken,
>
>
>           The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
>
>
>                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
> To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
> This is sounding really political and dishonest.  Is it one of those
> surveys
> carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to
> do
> things informed members would never approve?
> Ken
>
>       From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>  To: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at detomasolist.com" <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
> You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
>
> Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that
> he
> has a list of.
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Check your junk file.  Mine was there.
> >
> >
> >  Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> >
> >
> >  From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> >  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
> >  To: [3]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> >
> >
> >  I have not received the survey.  I am hoping it would have a 4th
> >  reply.
> >  4.  Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information
> >  and
> >  postings from POCA.com.  You may keep any pro-rated membership fees
> >and
> >  future publication mailings.
> >  The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email
> >  address
> >  to see whom to send above to.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> >On
> >  Behalf
> >  Of Will Kooiman
> >  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
> >  To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift at hotmail.com; bill at incendium.com
> >  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; detomaso at detomasolist.com;
> >  mbglobalsc at aol.com; gpd4 at juno.com
> >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> >  Verbatim from the survey:
> >  1.  We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
> >want
> >  you to fight for us and keep making the club better.  OR
> >  2.  We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight,
> >let
> >  the
> >  contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
> >  This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully
> >  support us, or you suck.
> >  How about this?
> >  3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
> >  unhappy
> >  with the way it has been done.  Please continue trying to make the
> >club
> >  better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
> >been
> >  damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating
> >  people
> >  with respect, they should leave.
> >  --
> >  Will
> >  _______________________________________________
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> >  3. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
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   World domination?

   On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <[1]paso750 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

     Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end
     goal
     was.
     I still haven't figured it out.
     Mike Haney
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM
     To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly'
     Cc: [3]detomaso at detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control
     a car
     club?A  The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is
     ridiculous.A  The
     hole just gets deeper and deeper.A  You read about crap like this
     going onA to
     gain control ofA multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense
     for a
     car club.
     Ken
     A  A  A  From: Charles Engles <[4]cengles at cox.net>
     A To: 'Ken Green' <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez'
     <[6]edducati at mac.com>;
     'Mike Reilly' <[7]reillyms at live.com>
     Cc: [8]detomaso at detomasolist.com
     A Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
     A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     Dear Ken,
     A  A  A  A  A  The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus
     operandi.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
     To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
     Cc: [10]detomaso at detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     This is sounding really political and dishonest.A  Is it one of
     those surveys
     carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an
     excuse to do
     things informed members would never approve?
     Ken
     A  A  A  From: Ed Mendez <[11]edducati at mac.com>
     A To: Mike Reilly <[12]reillyms at live.com>
     Cc: "[13]detomaso at detomasolist.com" <[14]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
     A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
     A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     A
     You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the
     board.
     Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails
     that he
     has a list of.
     > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[15]reillyms at live.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >A  Check your junk file.A  Mine was there.
     >
     >
     >A  Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
     >
     >
     >A  From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
     >A  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
     >A  To: [3][16]detomaso at detomasolist.com
     >A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     >
     >
     >A  I have not received the survey.A  I am hoping it would have a
     4th
     >A  reply.
     >A  4.A  Please revoke my membership and remove all personal
     information
     >A  and
     >A  postings from POCA.com.A  You may keep any pro-rated membership
     fees
     >and
     >A  future publication mailings.
     >A  The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the
     email
     >A  address
     >A  to see whom to send above to.
     >
     >A  -----Original Message-----
     >A  From: DeTomaso
     [[4]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     >On
     >A  Behalf
     >A  Of Will Kooiman
     >A  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
     >A  To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [18]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
     [19]bill at incendium.com
     >A  Cc: [20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
     [21]detomaso at detomasolist.com;

   >A  [22]mbglobalsc at aol.com; [23]gpd4 at juno.com
   >A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
   >A  Verbatim from the survey:
   >A  1.A  We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
   >want
   >A  you to fight for us and keep making the club better.A  OR
   >A  2.A  We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the
   fight,
   >let
   >A  the
   >A  contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
   >A  This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you
   fully
   >A  support us, or you suck.
   >A  How about this?
   >A  3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
   >A  unhappy
   >A  with the way it has been done.A  Please continue trying to make the
   >club
   >A  better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
   >been
   >A  damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
   treating
   >A  people
   >A  with respect, they should leave.
   >A  --
   >A  Will
   >A  _______________________________________________
   >A  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   >A  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   >A  DeTomaso mailing list

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     the
     >A  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
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     >
     > References
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     >A  1. [26]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
     >A  2. mailto:[27]byrdjf at embarqmail.com
     >A  3. mailto:[28]detomaso at detomasolist.com
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   1. mailto:paso750 at gmail.com
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   5. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   6. mailto:edducati at mac.com
   7. mailto:reillyms at live.com
   8. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
   9. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  10. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  11. mailto:edducati at mac.com
  12. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  13. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  14. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  15. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  16. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  17. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  18. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
  19. mailto:bill at incendium.com
  20. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  21. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  22. mailto:mbglobalsc at aol.com
  23. mailto:gpd4 at juno.com
  24. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  25. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  26. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
  27. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
  28. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
  29. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  30. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  31. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  32. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  33. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  34. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  35. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  36. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  37. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  38. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso


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