[DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 22 13:32:07 EDT 2016


I have been a sometimes member of POCA and have not always been ecstatic regarding what POCA provides to members, but what bothers me is the lack of respect for the contributions of others.  Several folks have spent years supporting the community, and even if you disagree with their ideas, they still deserve respect for their contributions, without which, there would be no POCA.
Ken

      From: Hp <iamhp005 at gmail.com>
 To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> 
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
   
  If we practiced placing principles above personalities, we would
  actually be a car club that sets a good example instead of being one
  that is a BAD example.
  Bruce

  On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Kimball
  <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:

    It is very sad.  In a perfect world, people would talk to each other
    calmly, apologize when appropriate, and work out a compromise
  agreeing
    to disagree when necessary.
    Eventually this will all blow over, but in the meantime it's painful,
    especially when I really enjoy all the members of POCA I know.  Sure,
  I
    don't agree with everyone, but I appreciate hearing different
    perspectives and opinions.  The key is to be kind.
    Sincerely,
    Chris
    From: [2]robpink2012 at gmail.com
    Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:35:52 -0500
    To: [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
    CC: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
  If this was Facebook I would be liking Julian's post
  On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:

      I am lost for appropriate words, what a sad day when a car club
    website

      is completely shutdown due to a dispute within the elected BOD.

      Julian

        ________________________________________________________________
    __

      From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
    <javascript:;>>

    on behalf of

      Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com <javascript:;>>

      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:48 PM

      To: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA

      Message on home page

      "We regret to inform you that the website is temporarily offline
    while

      a

      dispute within the POCA Board of Directors is resolved.

      All content and data on the website (including your personal

      information) is

      secure and protected."

      -----Original Message-----

      From: DeTomaso
    [[1][9]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com

    <javascript:;>] On

      Behalf

      Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.

      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:59 PM

      To: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA

      It is not just You.

      I was about to ask the same question, thinking I might have been

      blocked

      since my membership expires next week

      -----Original Message-----

      From: DeTomaso
    [[2][11]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com

    <javascript:;>] On

      Behalf

      Of Mark Pinson

      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:01 PM

      To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>

      Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA

      Now I get a message "Website is not active" and "Website is
    offline" -

      is it

      just me?

      Glad I'm not an advertiser, but sorry I'm a member.

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   I have been a sometimes member of POCA and have not always been
   ecstatic regarding what POCA provides to members, but what bothers me
   is the lack of respect for the contributions of others.  Several folks
   have spent years supporting the community, and even if you disagree
   with their ideas, they still deserve respect for their contributions,
   without which, there would be no POCA.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Hp <iamhp005 at gmail.com>
   To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:14 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
     If we practiced placing principles above personalities, we would
     actually be a car club that sets a good example instead of being one
     that is a BAD example.
     Bruce
     On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Kimball
     <[1][1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
       It is very sad.  In a perfect world, people would talk to each
   other
       calmly, apologize when appropriate, and work out a compromise
     agreeing
       to disagree when necessary.
       Eventually this will all blow over, but in the meantime it's
   painful,
       especially when I really enjoy all the members of POCA I know.
   Sure,
     I
       don't agree with everyone, but I appreciate hearing different
       perspectives and opinions.  The key is to be kind.
       Sincerely,
       Chris
       From: [2][2]robpink2012 at gmail.com
       Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:35:52 -0500
       To: [3][3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
       CC: [4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
     If this was Facebook I would be liking Julian's post
     On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Julian Kift
   <[5][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
         I am lost for appropriate words, what a sad day when a car club
       website
         is completely shutdown due to a dispute within the elected BOD.
         Julian

   ________________________________________________________________
       __
         From: DeTomaso <[6][6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
       <javascript:;>>
       on behalf of
         Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7][7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com <javascript:;>>
         Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:48 PM
         To: [8][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>
         Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
         Message on home page
         "We regret to inform you that the website is temporarily offline
       while
         a
         dispute within the POCA Board of Directors is resolved.
         All content and data on the website (including your personal
         information) is
         secure and protected."
         -----Original Message-----
         From: DeTomaso
       [[1][9]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
       <javascript:;>] On
         Behalf
         Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
         Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:59 PM
         To: [10][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>
         Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
         It is not just You.
         I was about to ask the same question, thinking I might have been
         blocked
         since my membership expires next week
         -----Original Message-----
         From: DeTomaso
       [[2][11]mailto:[11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
       <javascript:;>] On
         Behalf
         Of Mark Pinson
         Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:01 PM
         To: [12][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>
         Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
         Now I get a message "Website is not active" and "Website is
       offline" -
         is it
         just me?
         Glad I'm not an advertiser, but sorry I'm a member.
         _______________________________________________
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