[DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
Robert Pink
robpink2012 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 21 07:45:10 EDT 2016
Clearly I don't know what happened here but is some part of this over the
perception that "Southern Pride" is a racist term?
On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
> The sad thing is that we are not against most of what Michael is trying
> to do. It is just his method of treating people that has caused the
> uproar.
> It would be great if there were some way to get him to calm down and
> discuss things in a civil manner.
>
> Forest
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com <javascript:;>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:29 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
> Hmm, a palace coup perhaps?
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: [1][1]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>
> To: [2][2]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>
> Sent: 7/20/2016 8:51:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time
> Subj: Re: [SCPOCA] East Coast rally news and more/less fun news
> A
> A
> I can not start a new thread as I am not authorized on your email
> list
> to do so, whomever gets this please share.
> A lot of developments today from the likes of Larry Finch, Gil Mares
> and the defection of Joe Stockett, Ed Mendez and John Buckman away
> from
> Laurie Basile, Mike Burnett and I.
> Thus,
> The 2016 POCA East Coast Rally is now simply the 2016 East Coast
> Rally,
> I will be sponsoring it myself in the same manner that I did the two
> Summer Summit Events in 2011 and 2012
> Nothing will change except now you'll need to register and pay
> directly
> here.
> Same plan, same everything, just no direct POCA Involvement.
> I hope that those of you who were thinking of coming will still do
> so.
> Bill Lewis joined us before and had a blast.
> Gil Mares and again Larry Finch have raised enough hell over Southern
> Pride Panteras,
> why they care is a mystery to me, but then again , why does Larry
> Finch
> do anything except complain/moan and contribute nothing?
> Today's lamblast and I kid you not - was the appropriateness of the
> name Southern Pride.
> I guess they had some Confederate Battle Flag image in their twisted
> little minds,
> A
> It meant a Group of Big Cats. ( education is important )
> Now we all know that a group of Lions is called a Pride.
> We also know that Pantera means Panther in Italian.
> Many of you know that Panthers ( like Tigers and Leopards ) are
> solitary creatures and do not get together in groups, thus there is
> no
> name for a group pf them.
> for a group of Panteras.
> Panthers only find another Pantera when in heat to screw them.
> Funny thing happened in May, I went to the so called Fun Rally in Las
> Vegas ( in the heat ) around a bunch of Panteras,
> Same exact thing happened to me!A
> So rather than continue to fight these people 24/7 ( and I'm not
> kidding, it happened all night long
> A ), I have moved all 23 of my soon to be official Southern Pride
> Pantera members
> to unaffiliated status and deleted any reference to the chapter
> across
> all of POCA.com
> Now since there is no Chapter to do the work, the HHI Concours
> display
> with Tom Tjaarda isA
> unlikely, so I have let Tom know that we (POCA) will not be bringing
> him here A for the HHI Concours.
> So to recap the days events
> East Coast Rally is still going on as a private party. ( please join
> me)
> Southern Pride Chapter is kaput
> Tom Tjaarda coming to HHI Concours is kaput
> Me doing the August Newsletter is kaput ( it was something, happy to
> share the cover art with you since I can not attach it )
> Me doing all of the technical layout for Laurie Basile for Profiles
> is
> kaput
> John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez have joined Larry Finch and
> Gil Mares ( the same guy who quit the fun rally job 3 months before
> the
> event after
> spending $1,200 of POCA Money visiting Las Vegas to approve The Plaza
> venue as the best possible hotel with Bob Reid ).
> This leaves Laurie Basile, Mike Burnett and I as the last of the
> people
> who wanted to make POCA a better club and returns the majority back
> to
> the
> non progressive side of those who do nothing but know everything, and
> are offended by words like "Pride" and specifically "Southern Pride"
> I have no idea what the future holds except a return to the POCA that
> was 100 members smaller and pretty much unchanged for 20 years.
> I've always liked TX and the independence of your Chapter, esp Bill
> and
> Marilyn, Terry, Kirby and others ( don't hate me for not putting your
> name)
> Gosh knows there are so many other reasons.
> You can thank the good folks in California , namely Larry Finch, Gil
> Mares, Ed Mendez, John Buckman and Joe Stockett.
> I just wanted you folks to know first, because there were about 6 of
> you that wanted to come to Savannah, the party is still going to
> happen.
> I'm still Prez and we shall see what happens next.
> Michael
> References
> 1. mailto:[3]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>
> 2. mailto:[4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>
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Clearly I don't know what happened here but is some part of this over
the perception that "Southern Pride" is a racist term?
On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Forest Goodhart <[1]forestg at att.net> wrote:
A A The sad thing is that we are not against most of what Michael
is trying
A A to do. It is just his method of treating people that has caused
the
A A uproar.
A A It would be great if there were some way to get him to calm
down and
A A discuss things in a civil manner.
A A Forest
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
A A To: [3]detomaso at detomasolist.com
A A Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:29 PM
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA
A A A Hmm, a palace coup perhaps?
A A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A A From: [1][1][4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
A A A To: [2][2][5]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
A A A Sent: 7/20/2016 8:51:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time
A A A Subj: Re: [SCPOCA] East Coast rally news and more/less fun
news
A A A A
A A A A
A A A I can not start a new thread as I am not authorized on your
email
A A list
A A A to do so, whomever gets this please share.
A A A A lot of developments today from the likes of Larry Finch,
Gil Mares
A A A and the defection of Joe Stockett, Ed Mendez and John
Buckman away
A A from
A A A Laurie Basile, Mike Burnett and I.
A A A Thus,
A A A The 2016 POCA East Coast Rally is now simply the 2016 East
Coast
A A Rally,
A A A I will be sponsoring it myself in the same manner that I did
the two
A A A Summer Summit Events in 2011 and 2012
A A A Nothing will change except now you'll need to register and
pay
A A directly
A A A here.
A A A Same plan, same everything, just no direct POCA Involvement.
A A A I hope that those of you who were thinking of coming will
still do
A A so.
A A A Bill Lewis joined us before and had a blast.
A A A Gil Mares and again Larry Finch have raised enough hell over
Southern
A A A Pride Panteras,
A A A why they care is a mystery to me, but then again , why does
Larry
A A Finch
A A A do anything except complain/moan and contribute nothing?
A A A Today's lamblast and I kid you not - was the appropriateness
of the
A A A name Southern Pride.
A A A I guess they had some Confederate Battle Flag image in their
twisted
A A A little minds,
A A A A
A A A It meant a Group of Big Cats. ( education is important )
A A A Now we all know that a group of Lions is called a Pride.
A A A We also know that Pantera means Panther in Italian.
A A A Many of you know that Panthers ( like Tigers and Leopards )
are
A A A solitary creatures and do not get together in groups, thus
there is
A A no
A A A name for a group pf them.
A A A for a group of Panteras.
A A A Panthers only find another Pantera when in heat to screw
them.
A A A Funny thing happened in May, I went to the so called Fun
Rally in Las
A A A Vegas ( in the heat ) around a bunch of Panteras,
A A A Same exact thing happened to me!A
A A A So rather than continue to fight these people 24/7 ( and I'm
not
A A A kidding, it happened all night long
A A A A ), I have moved all 23 of my soon to be official Southern
Pride
A A A Pantera members
A A A to unaffiliated status and deleted any reference to the
chapter
A A across
A A A all of POCA.com
A A A Now since there is no Chapter to do the work, the HHI
Concours
A A display
A A A with Tom Tjaarda isA
A A A unlikely, so I have let Tom know that we (POCA) will not be
bringing
A A A him here A for the HHI Concours.
A A A So to recap the days events
A A A East Coast Rally is still going on as a private party. (
please join
A A A me)
A A A Southern Pride Chapter is kaput
A A A Tom Tjaarda coming to HHI Concours is kaput
A A A Me doing the August Newsletter is kaput ( it was something,
happy to
A A A share the cover art with you since I can not attach it )
A A A Me doing all of the technical layout for Laurie Basile for
Profiles
A A is
A A A kaput
A A A John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez have joined Larry
Finch and
A A A Gil Mares ( the same guy who quit the fun rally job 3 months
before
A A the
A A A event after
A A A spending $1,200 of POCA Money visiting Las Vegas to approve
The Plaza
A A A venue as the best possible hotel with Bob Reid ).
A A A This leaves Laurie Basile, Mike Burnett and I as the last of
the
A A people
A A A who wanted to make POCA a better club and returns the
majority back
A A to
A A A the
A A A non progressive side of those who do nothing but know
everything, and
A A A are offended by words like "Pride" and specifically
"Southern Pride"
A A A I have no idea what the future holds except a return to the
POCA that
A A A was 100 members smaller and pretty much unchanged for 20
years.
A A A I've always liked TX and the independence of your Chapter,
esp Bill
A A and
A A A Marilyn, Terry, Kirby and others ( don't hate me for not
putting your
A A A name)
A A A Gosh knows there are so many other reasons.
A A A You can thank the good folks in California , namely Larry
Finch, Gil
A A A Mares, Ed Mendez, John Buckman and Joe Stockett.
A A A I just wanted you folks to know first, because there were
about 6 of
A A A you that wanted to come to Savannah, the party is still
going to
A A A happen.
A A A I'm still Prez and we shall see what happens next.
A A A Michael
A A References
A A A 1. mailto:[3][6]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
A A A 2. mailto:[4][7]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
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