[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Tue Jul 5 21:15:46 EDT 2016


IMHO, do not cut the hood.

Try some simple things first.   Consider a new thermostat, but take
precautions that you buy a correct Cleveland rather than the more common
Windsor.

It is possible the old radiator may be to blame.   If there are good
radiator shops nearby, then you could pull the radiator and have them tank
it and clean it up and pressure test it.  That may be all it needs.

If the overheating persists, then new fans might be helpful.   The other
option would be to buy a new radiator and fans from one of the vendors.


                               Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles


Owen, Chuck has good advice. If you live in generally cool climes, you
don't really need an expensive set up. Besides the other things everyone
suggested in reply, the only thing you might need/want are SPAL pusher
fans. *That way you will keep the stock appearance of your car.*
Aftermarket aluminum radiators pretty much all have to lay down, some more
than others.

Jeff
6559

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:29 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear Owen,
>
>
>
>                  IMHO, do not cut the hood.
>
>
>                  Try some simple things first.   Consider a new
> thermostat, but take precautions that you buy a correct Cleveland rather
> than the more common Windsor.
>
>
>                  It is possible the old radiator may be to blame.   If
> there are good radiator shops nearby, then you could pull the radiator and
> have them tank it and clean it up and pressure test it.  That may be all it
> needs.
>
>                  If the overheating persists, then new fans might be
> helpful.   The other option would be to buy a new radiator and fans from
> one of the vendors.
>
>
>                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
>
> Guys  i need advice please
>>
>>
>> I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
>>
>> i have some cooling problems in traffic  even though i am in Ireland and
>> its never very hot here
>>
>> rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood
>> i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over
>> the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful
>>
>> i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans
>> kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts
>> this the one with puller fans  but i want to keep it upright
>>
>> does this plan make sense
>> i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight
>> boiling over in the swirl tank once
>> also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front  and it read about
>> 160 degrees  until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery
>> small vasriation in reading  even when engine is cold
>> any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ?
>> i would appreciate advice
>>
>> best regards  owen cooke
>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
>>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'MyCars'"
>>>         <mycars at comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
>>>         <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>> Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
>>> that
>>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this
>>> time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora
>>> could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Christopher Kimball
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>> Congrats!
>>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
>>> finish
>>> my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>>
>>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2
>>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>>>
>>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be
>>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
>>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'MyCars'
>>>         <mycars at comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America'
>>>         <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>> Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>>> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
>>> frequently...
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
>>> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>;
>>> 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of
>>> America'<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
>>> that
>>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this
>>> time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora
>>> could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Christopher Kimball
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>> Congrats!
>>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
>>> finish
>>> my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>>
>>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2
>>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>>>
>>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be
>>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>     I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
>>>     frequently...
>>>     Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>     From: [1]Mike Thomas
>>>     Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
>>>     To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of
>>>     America'
>>>     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>>     Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
>>>     that
>>>     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm
>>>     this
>>>     time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
>>>     Pandora
>>>     could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>>     Mike
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>> On
>>>     Behalf
>>>     Of Christopher Kimball
>>>     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>>>     To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>     Congrats!
>>>     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
>>>     finish
>>>     my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>>>     Sincerely,
>>>     Chris
>>>
>>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>>
>>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
>>>>
>>>     2
>>>
>>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>>>
>>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
>>>>
>>>     be
>>>
>>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
>>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010 at aol.com>
>>> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <
>>> CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Hey, Hey it works!
>>>
>>> Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> 6559
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Dear Jeff,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                        Hmmm.   I am a computer dope.  Try an email to :
>>>>     [1]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                        You might also try to Google
>>>>     Detomasolist.com,   which might have the sign up info.    Also,
>>>> since
>>>>     you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the
>>>> new
>>>>     forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.   You might just try
>>>>     sending an email......      I hope that helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                                           Warmest
>>>> regards,
>>>>     Chuck Engles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>>     Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>>     To: cengles at cox.net
>>>>     Subject: Re: Tech Session
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Where do I find the new old forum?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>     [2]cengles at cox.net writes:
>>>>
>>>>     Dear Jeff,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                   Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC,
>>>>     $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.  I will try to find the pdf and sent it to
>>>> you
>>>>     directly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                   Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit
>>>> by
>>>>     Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.  The New Old Forum is good.
>>>>  Mr.
>>>>     Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     rom: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>>     Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>>>>     To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>>>>     Subject: Tech Session
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Chuck,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be
>>>>     reimbursed for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>     1. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>     2. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>>
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>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>     Hey, Hey it works!
>>>     Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>>>     Jeff
>>>     6559
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net>
>>>     wrote:
>>>
>>>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  A I am a computer dope.A
>>>       Try an email to :
>>>       A  A [1][2]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  You might
>>>       also try to Google
>>>       A  A Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up info.A A
>>>       Also,A  since
>>>       A  A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to
>>>       the new
>>>       A  A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You might
>>>       just try
>>>       A  A sending an email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A A A
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,
>>>       A  A Chuck Engles
>>>       A  A From: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:[4]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>       A  A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>       A  A To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>>>       A  A Subject: Re: Tech Session
>>>       A  A Where do I find the new old forum?
>>>       A  A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
>>>       Time,
>>>       A  A [2][6]cengles at cox.net writes:
>>>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total
>>>       of, IIRC,
>>>       A  A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and sent
>>>       it to you
>>>       A  A directly.
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite
>>> threats
>>>       of lawsuit by
>>>       A  A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum is
>>>       good.A  A Mr.
>>>       A  A Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,A
>>>       Chuck Engles
>>>       A  A rom: [3][7]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>       A  A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>>>       A  A To: [5][9]cengles at cox.net
>>>       A  A Subject: Tech Session
>>>       A  A Chuck,
>>>       A  A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want
>>>       to be
>>>       A  A reimbursed for?
>>>       A  A Jeff
>>>       A  A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>>>       References
>>>       A  A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>       A  A 2. mailto:[11]cengles at cox.net
>>>       A  A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>       A  A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>       A  A 5. mailto:[14]cengles at cox.net
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>>>     2. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>     6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>     7. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     8. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     9. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>    10. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>    11. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>    12. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>    13. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>    14. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>    15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>    16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
>>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>>> To: laurieferrari at aol.com
>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <
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>>>
>>> Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for
>>> the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50%
>>> higher
>>> than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the
>>> recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the
>>> magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>>>
>>> So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for
>>> taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of
>>> material for the magazine.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> 6559
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <
>>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in
>>>>     light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews
>>>>     with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special
>>>> cars
>>>>     personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information,
>>>>     networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
>>>>     Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report
>>>> Section
>>>>     of Profiles.
>>>>     I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim
>>>> to be
>>>>     positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.  I know
>>>>     that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>>>>     entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer.
>>>>     Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000.
>>>> yearly
>>>>     savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever
>>>>     reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned
>>>> even
>>>>     though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem
>>>>     that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede
>>>>     personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board
>>>> has
>>>>     voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need
>>>>     to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
>>>>     membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and
>>>>     a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new
>>>>     benefits we are seeing.
>>>>     I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your
>>>>     stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no
>>>>     information is too little.  Let's all contribute to a fabulous
>>>> Profiles
>>>>     issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>>>>     information on the membership information page.
>>>>     My warmest greetings to everyone!
>>>>     Laurie
>>>>
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>>>     Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication
>>>     for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be
>>> 50%
>>>     higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with
>>>     the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides
>>>     for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>>>     So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks
>>>     for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty
>>> of
>>>     material for the magazine.
>>>     Jeff
>>>     6559
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
>>>     <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       A  A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
>>>       Editor in
>>>       A  A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
>>>       interviews
>>>       A  A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
>>>       special cars
>>>       A  A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
>>>       information,
>>>       A  A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
>>>       A  A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter
>>> Report
>>>       Section
>>>       A  A of Profiles.
>>>       A  A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I
>>>       aim to be
>>>       A  A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I
>>> know
>>>       A  A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>>>       A  A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
>>>       printer.
>>>       A  A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an
>>>       $8,000. yearly
>>>       A  A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For
>>>       whatever
>>>       A  A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
>>>       resigned even
>>>       A  A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would
>>>       seem
>>>       A  A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
>>>       supersede
>>>       A  A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the
>>>       Board has
>>>       A  A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but
>>> decisions
>>>       need
>>>       A  A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
>>>       A  A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people
>>>       and
>>>       A  A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many
>>> new
>>>       A  A benefits we are seeing.
>>>       A  A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with
>>> your
>>>       A  A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
>>>       pictures; no
>>>       A  A information is too little.A  Let's all contribute to a
>>> fabulous
>>>       Profiles
>>>       A  A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>>>       A  A information on the membership information page.
>>>       A  A My warmest greetings to everyone!
>>>       A  A Laurie
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
>>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>>> To: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
>>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=
>>> TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
>>> Cascade
>>> Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door.
>>> It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars.htm
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>>> I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>>>> Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Michael Barnes
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>>>> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of
>>>> refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends
>>>> dad
>>>> gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on
>>>> the
>>>> door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion"
>>>> What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>     I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
>>>     Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier
>>> on a
>>>     car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the
>>>     door.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for
>>>     _cars.htm
>>>     Jeff
>>>
>>>     On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee at cox.net>
>>>     wrote:
>>>
>>>       Michael,
>>>       I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>>>       Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>>>
>>> [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma
>>>       t.html
>>>       John
>>>       -----Original Message-----
>>>       From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>> ]
>>>       On Behalf
>>>
>>>     Of Michael Barnes
>>>     Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>>>     To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>>     Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process
>>> of
>>>     refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a
>>> friends
>>>     dad
>>>     gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back
>>> on
>>>     the
>>>     door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
>>>     corrosion"
>>>     What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>>>     Thanks for any input
>>>     Michael
>>>     Sent from my iPad
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>>> References
>>>
>>>     1.
>>> http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars.htm
>>>     2. mailto:johnmckee at cox.net
>>>     3.
>>> http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html
>>>     4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>     8. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
>>> From: John Bennett <jbennett111 at zoho.com>
>>> To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>>>         <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>> Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797 at zoho.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Great membership now only $50!
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>>>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
>>>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> Please spread the word!
>>>>
>>>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
>>>> sign up online.
>>>>
>>>> Simply go to
>>>>
>>>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>>>
>>>> to have people sign up.
>>>>
>>>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
>>>> where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of
>>>> $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters
>>>> and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>>>
>>>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
>>>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>>>
>>>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
>>>> benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>>> <
>>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ed Mendez
>>>>
>>>> PR Director - POCA
>>>>
>>>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>     Great membership now only $50!
>>>
>>>     Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>     From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
>>>
>>>     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join
>>>
>>>     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>>
>>>     To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
>>>     Panteras <[4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>>
>>>     Please spread the word!
>>>     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
>>>     sign up online.
>>>     Simply go to
>>>     [5]www.poca.com/join
>>>     to have people sign up.
>>>     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>>     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
>>>     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead
>>>     of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only"
>>>     Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>>     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
>>>     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>>     Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
>>>     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>>
>>>
>>> [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
>>>     module_id=225364
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Ed Mendez
>>>     PR Director - POCA
>>>     [7]www.poca.com
>>>
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>>> References
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>>>     2. http://www.poca.com/join
>>>     3. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>>     4. mailto:SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
>>>     5. http://www.poca.com/join
>>>     6.
>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>>     7. http://www.poca.com/
>>>     8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com
>>>     9. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>>    10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
>>> From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
>>> Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>   Michael
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
>>> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
>>> Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49 at aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> Here you go:  http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>>
>>> Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing
>>> division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
>>> blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and
>>> can even provide new castings for some models.
>>>
>>> He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>>>
>>> If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
>>> spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress
>>> the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <
>>>> michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>     Michael,
>>>
>>>     Here you go:  [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>>
>>>     Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling
>>> racing
>>>     division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
>>>     blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products,
>>>     and can even provide new castings for some models.
>>>
>>>     He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>>>
>>>     If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
>>>     spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
>>>     compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking
>>>     brake function.
>>>
>>>     Cheers!
>>>
>>>     Mike
>>>     Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>     On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
>>>     <[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>>>     Thanks in advance
>>>     Michael
>>>     Sent from my iPad
>>>     _______________________________________________
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>>> References
>>>
>>>     1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>>     2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>>     3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
>>> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>>> To: "'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
>>>         <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>> Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site?
>>> If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to
>>> purchase in case there is one desired?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Bennett
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM
>>> To: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>>
>>> Great membership now only $50!
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>>>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
>>>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> Please spread the word!
>>>>
>>>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
>>>> sign up online.
>>>>
>>>> Simply go to
>>>>
>>>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>>>
>>>> to have people sign up.
>>>>
>>>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
>>>> where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of
>>>> $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters
>>>> and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>>>
>>>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
>>>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>>>
>>>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
>>>> benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>>> <
>>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ed Mendez
>>>>
>>>> PR Director - POCA
>>>>
>>>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com <mailto:
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>>>> <mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>.
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>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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   IMHO, do not cut the hood.
   Try some simple things first.A  A Consider a new thermostat, but take
   precautions that you buy a correct Cleveland rather than the more
   common Windsor.
   It is possible the old radiator may be to blame.A  A If there are good
   radiator shops nearby, then you could pull the radiator and have them
   tank it and clean it up and pressure test it.A  That may be all it
   needs.
   If the overheating persists, then new fans might be helpful.A  A The
   other option would be to buy a new radiator and fans from one of the
   vendors.
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,A  Chuck
   Engles
   Owen, Chuck has good advice. If you live in generally cool climes, you
   don't really need an expensive set up. Besides the other things
   everyone suggested in reply, the only thing you might need/want are
   SPAL pusher fans. That way you will keep the stock appearance of your
   car. Aftermarket aluminum radiators pretty much all have to lay down,
   some more than others.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:29 AM, <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:

     Dear Owen,
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A IMHO, do not cut the hood.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Try some simple things first.A  A Consider
     a new thermostat, but take precautions that you buy a correct
     Cleveland rather than the more common Windsor.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A It is possible the old radiator may be to
     blame.A  A If there are good radiator shops nearby, then you could
     pull the radiator and have them tank it and clean it up and pressure
     test it.A  That may be all it needs.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A If the overheating persists, then new fans
     might be helpful.A  A The other option would be to buy a new
     radiator and fans from one of the vendors.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,A
     Chuck Engles

   On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:

     GuysA  i need advice please
     I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
     i have some cooling problems in trafficA  even though i am in
     Ireland and its never very hot here
     rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood
     i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over
     the fans were working but they are the originals and not very
     powerful
     i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and
     fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts
     this the one with puller fansA  but i want to keep it upright
     does this plan make sense
     i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this
     slight boiling over in the swirl tank once
     also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine frontA  and it read
     about 160 degreesA  until now its reading 230 degress all the time
     with only veery small vasriation in readingA  even when engine is
     cold
     any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ?
     i would appreciate advice
     best regardsA  owen cooke
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     Message: 1
     Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
     From: "Mike Thomas" <[9]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
     To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[10]chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'MyCars'"
     A  A  A  A  <[11]mycars at comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of
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     A  A  A  A  <[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@[13]comcast.net>
     Content-Type: text/plain;A  A  A  A charset="us-ascii"
     Yes you do, Chris . . .A  Well, in one sense at least.A  Some have
     said that
     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm
     this
     time . . .".A  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
     Pandora
     could mean one ant the same.A  I know that is not in your plans . .
     .
     Mike
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Christopher Kimball
     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
     To: MyCars <[15]mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
     <[16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     Congrats!
     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
     finish
     my car.A  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
     Sincerely,
     Chris

     To: [17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     From: [18]mycars at comcast.net
     Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
     2
     years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
     worth of avocados to a local distributor.
     Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
     be
     able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
     Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
     being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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     Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
     From: Christopher Kimball <[21]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
     To: Mike Thomas <[22]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'MyCars'
     A  A  A  A  <[23]mycars at comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
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     I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
     frequently...
     Sent from my Windows Phone
     ________________________________
     From: Mike Thomas<mailto:[25]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
     Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
     To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:[26]chrisvkimball at msn.com>;
     'MyCars'<mailto:[27]mycars at comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of
     America'<mailto:[28]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     Yes you do, Chris . . .A  Well, in one sense at least.A  Some have
     said that
     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm
     this
     time . . .".A  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
     Pandora
     could mean one ant the same.A  I know that is not in your plans . .
     .
     Mike
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Christopher Kimball
     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
     To: MyCars <[30]mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
     <[31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     Congrats!
     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
     finish
     my car.A  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
     Sincerely,
     Chris

     To: [32]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     From: [33]mycars at comcast.net
     Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
     2
     years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
     worth of avocados to a local distributor.
     Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
     be
     able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
     Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
     being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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     A  A  I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
     A  A  frequently...
     A  A  Sent from my Windows Phone
     __________________________________________________________________
     A  A  From: [1]Mike Thomas
     A  A  Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
     A  A  To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners
     Club of
     A  A  America'
     A  A  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     A  A  Yes you do, Chris . . .A  Well, in one sense at least.A  Some
     have said
     A  A  that
     A  A  when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought
     the farm
     A  A  this
     A  A  time . . .".A  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and
     selling
     A  A  Pandora
     A  A  could mean one ant the same.A  I know that is not in your
     plans . . .
     A  A  Mike
     A  A  -----Original Message-----
     A  A  From: DeTomaso
     [[5]mailto:[36]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
     A  A  Behalf
     A  A  Of Christopher Kimball
     A  A  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
     A  A  To: MyCars <[37]mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of
     America
     A  A  <[38]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     A  A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     A  A  Congrats!
     A  A  I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so
     I can
     A  A  finish
     A  A  my car.A  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
     A  A  Sincerely,
     A  A  Chris

     To: [39]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     From: [40]mycars at comcast.net
     Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
     So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been

     A  A  2

     years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
     worth of avocados to a local distributor.
     Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll

     A  A  be

     able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
     Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
     being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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     Message: 3
     Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
     From: Jeff Detrich <[49]jjd1010 at aol.com>
     To: Charles Engles <[50]cengles at cox.net>
     Cc: [51]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
     Message-ID:
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     Hey, Hey it works!
     Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
     Jeff
     6559
     On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles
     <[53]cengles at cox.net> wrote:

     A  A  Dear Jeff,
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Hmmm.A  A I am a computer dope.A
     Try an email to :
     A  A  [1][54]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A You might
     also try to Google
     A  A  Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up info.A  A
     Also, since
     A  A  you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to
     the new
     A  A  forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You might
     just try
     A  A  sending an email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A
     A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,
     A  A  Chuck Engles
     A  A  From: [55]JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:[56]JJD1010 at aol.com]
     A  A  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
     A  A  To: [57]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  Subject: Re: Tech Session
     A  A  Where do I find the new old forum?
     A  A  In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
     Time,
     A  A  [2][58]cengles at cox.net writes:
     A  A  Dear Jeff,
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Yes, I sent the attachment for the total
     of, IIRC,
     A  A  $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and sent
     it to you
     A  A  directly.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Yes, the Old Forum is back despite
     threats of lawsuit by
     A  A  Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum is
     good.A  A Mr.
     A  A  Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,A
     Chuck Engles
     A  A  rom: [3][59]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:[60]JJD1010 at aol.com]
     A  A  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
     A  A  To: [5][61]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  Subject: Tech Session
     A  A  Chuck,
     A  A  Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want
     to be
     A  A  reimbursed for?
     A  A  Jeff
     A  A  PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
     References
     A  A  1. mailto:[62]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A  2. mailto:[63]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  3. mailto:[64]JJD1010 at aol.com
     A  A  4. mailto:[65]JJD1010 at aol.com
     A  A  5. mailto:[66]cengles at cox.net
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     A  A  Hey, Hey it works!
     A  A  Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
     A  A  Jeff
     A  A  6559
     A  A  On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles
     <[1][69]cengles at cox.net>
     A  A  wrote:
     A  A  A  AA  A Dear Jeff,
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  Hmmm.AA  A I am
     a computer dope.A
     A  A  A  Try an email to :
     A  A  A  AA  A [1][2][70]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA
     AA  AA  AA  AA  You might
     A  A  A  also try to Google
     A  A  A  AA  A Detomasolist.com,AA  A which might have the sign up
     info.A A
     A  A  A  Also,AA  since
     A  A  A  AA  A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already
     added you to
     A  A  A  the new
     A  A  A  AA  A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.AA  A
     You might
     A  A  A  just try
     A  A  A  AA  A sending an email......AA  AA  AA  I hope that helps.
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA
     AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  A A A
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  A Warmest regards,
     A  A  A  AA  A Chuck Engles
     A  A  A  AA  A From: [3][71]JJD1010 at aol.com
     [mailto:[4][72]JJD1010 at aol.com]
     A  A  A  AA  A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
     A  A  A  AA  A To: [5][73]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  A  AA  A Subject: Re: Tech Session
     A  A  A  AA  A Where do I find the new old forum?
     A  A  A  AA  A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central
     Daylight
     A  A  A  Time,
     A  A  A  AA  A [2][6][74]cengles at cox.net writes:
     A  A  A  AA  A Dear Jeff,
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  A Yes, I sent the
     attachment for the total
     A  A  A  of, IIRC,
     A  A  A  AA  A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.AA  I will try to find the
     pdf and sent
     A  A  A  it to you
     A  A  A  AA  A directly.
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  A Yes, the Old Forum is
     back despite threats
     A  A  A  of lawsuit by
     A  A  A  AA  A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.AA  The New Old
     Forum is
     A  A  A  good.AA  A Mr.
     A  A  A  AA  A Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
     A  A  A  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA  AA
     Warmest regards,A
     A  A  A  Chuck Engles
     A  A  A  AA  A rom: [3][7][75]JJD1010 at aol.com
     [[4]mailto:[8][76]JJD1010 at aol.com]
     A  A  A  AA  A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
     A  A  A  AA  A To: [5][9][77]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  A  AA  A Subject: Tech Session
     A  A  A  AA  A Chuck,
     A  A  A  AA  A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses
     you want
     A  A  A  to be
     A  A  A  AA  A reimbursed for?
     A  A  A  AA  A Jeff
     A  A  A  AA  A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure
     miss it!
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     A  A  A  AA  A 2. mailto:[11][79]cengles at cox.net
     A  A  A  AA  A 3. mailto:[12][80]JJD1010 at aol.com
     A  A  A  AA  A 4. mailto:[13][81]JJD1010 at aol.com
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     Message: 4
     Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
     From: Jeff Detrich <[101]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     To: [102]laurieferrari at aol.com
     Cc: [103]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
     Message-ID:
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     Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication
     for
     the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50%
     higher
     than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the
     recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides
     for the
     magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
     So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and
     thanks for
     taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of
     material for the magazine.
     Jeff
     6559
     On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <
     [105]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     A  A  Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
     Editor in
     A  A  light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
     interviews
     A  A  with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
     special cars
     A  A  personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
     information,
     A  A  networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
     A  A  Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter
     Report Section
     A  A  of Profiles.
     A  A  I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I
     aim to be
     A  A  positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I
     know
     A  A  that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
     A  A  entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
     printer.
     A  A  Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an
     $8,000. yearly
     A  A  savings for an improved product from a new printer. For
     whatever
     A  A  reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
     resigned even
     A  A  though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would
     seem
     A  A  that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
     supersede
     A  A  personal interests, most especially when the majority of the
     Board has
     A  A  voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but
     decisions need
     A  A  to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
     A  A  membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people
     and
     A  A  a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many
     new
     A  A  benefits we are seeing.
     A  A  I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with
     your
     A  A  stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
     pictures; no
     A  A  information is too little.A  Let's all contribute to a
     fabulous Profiles
     A  A  issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
     A  A  information on the membership information page.
     A  A  My warmest greetings to everyone!
     A  A  Laurie
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     A  A  Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for
     publication
     A  A  for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices
     to be 50%
     A  A  higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the
     Board with
     A  A  the recommendation that they might want to look at getting
     some bides
     A  A  for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was
     ignored.
     A  A  So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and
     thanks
     A  A  for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you
     plenty of
     A  A  material for the magazine.
     A  A  Jeff
     A  A  6559
     A  A  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
     A  A  <[1][108]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     A  A  A  AA  A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim
     Profiles
     A  A  A  Editor in
     A  A  A  AA  A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up
     for
     A  A  A  interviews
     A  A  A  AA  A with new members, long time members, obtaining
     details of
     A  A  A  special cars
     A  A  A  AA  A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
     A  A  A  information,
     A  A  A  AA  A networking with people of interest, and calling on
     all Chapter
     A  A  A  AA  A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new
     Chapter Report
     A  A  A  Section
     A  A  A  AA  A of Profiles.
     A  A  A  AA  A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of
     late and I
     A  A  A  aim to be
     A  A  A  AA  A positive and do my utmost to maintain
     professionalism.AA  I know
     A  A  A  AA  A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have
     recently been
     A  A  A  AA  A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the
     choice of
     A  A  A  printer.
     A  A  A  AA  A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered
     an
     A  A  A  $8,000. yearly
     A  A  A  AA  A savings for an improved product from a new printer.
     For
     A  A  A  whatever
     A  A  A  AA  A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable
     that he
     A  A  A  resigned even
     A  A  A  AA  A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as
     it would
     A  A  A  seem
     A  A  A  AA  A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years
     would
     A  A  A  supersede
     A  A  A  AA  A personal interests, most especially when the majority
     of the
     A  A  A  Board has
     A  A  A  AA  A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but
     decisions
     A  A  A  need
     A  A  A  AA  A to be made democratically and for the betterment of
     the entire
     A  A  A  AA  A membership. We have a great club made up of
     incredible people
     A  A  A  and
     A  A  A  AA  A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and
     the many new
     A  A  A  AA  A benefits we are seeing.
     A  A  A  AA  A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me
     with your
     A  A  A  AA  A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs,
     restorations,
     A  A  A  pictures; no
     A  A  A  AA  A information is too little.AA  Let's all contribute to
     a fabulous
     A  A  A  Profiles
     A  A  A  AA  A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my
     contact
     A  A  A  AA  A information on the membership information page.
     A  A  A  AA  A My warmest greetings to everyone!
     A  A  A  AA  A Laurie
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     Message: 5
     Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
     From: Jeff Detrich <[114]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     To: John McKee <[115]johnmckee at cox.net>
     Cc: Detomaso <[116]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
     Message-ID:
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     I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
     Cascade
     Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car
     door.
     It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door.
     [118]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/damper
     s_for_cars.htm
     Jeff
     On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee
     <[119]johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:

     Michael,
     I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
     Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
     [120]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-
     mat.html
     John
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso
     [mailto:[121]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
     Of Michael Barnes
     Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
     To: Detomaso <[122]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
     Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process
     of
     refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a
     friends dad
     gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back
     on the
     door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
     corrosion"
     What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
     Thanks for any input
     Michael
     Sent from my iPad
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     A  A  I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material
     from
     A  A  Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor
     barrier on a
     A  A  car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material
     to the
     A  A  door.
     [1][127]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dam
     pers_for
     A  A  _cars.htm
     A  A  Jeff
     A  A  On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee
     <[2][128]johnmckee at cox.net>
     A  A  wrote:
     A  A  A  Michael,
     A  A  A  I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
     A  A  A  Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
     [3][129]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustic
     al-ma
     A  A  A  t.html
     A  A  A  John
     A  A  A  -----Original Message-----
     A  A  A  From: DeTomaso
     [mailto:[4][130]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     A  A  A  On Behalf
     A  A  Of Michael Barnes
     A  A  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
     A  A  To: Detomaso <[5][131]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     A  A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
     A  A  Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the
     process of
     A  A  refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a
     friends
     A  A  dad
     A  A  gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic
     back on
     A  A  the
     A  A  door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
     A  A  corrosion"
     A  A  What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
     A  A  Thanks for any input
     A  A  Michael
     A  A  Sent from my iPad
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     A  A  2. mailto:[137]johnmckee at cox.net
     A  A  3.
     [138]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-
     mat.html
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     Message: 6
     Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
     From: John Bennett <[145]jbennett111 at zoho.com>
     To: "[146]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     A  A  A  A  <[147]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for
     [148]www.poca.com/join
     Message-ID: <[149]E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797 at zoho.com>
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     Great membership now only $50!

     Begin forwarded message:
     From: Ed Mendez <[150]edducati at mac.com>
     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [151]www.poca.com/join
     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
     To: San Diego Panteras <[152]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space
     City Panteras <[153]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
     Please spread the word!
     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people
     to sign up online.
     Simply go to
     [154]www.poca.com/join <[155]http://www.poca.com/join>
     to have people sign up.
     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events,
     etc.
     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00
     instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital
     only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
     Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
     [156]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99
     9896&module_id=225364
     <[157]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=9
     99896&module_id=225364>
     Thanks,
     Ed Mendez
     PR Director - POCA
     [158]www.poca.com <[159]http://www.poca.com/>
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     A  A  Great membership now only $50!
     A  A  Begin forwarded message:
     A  A  From: Ed Mendez <[1][166]edducati at mac.com>
     A  A  Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2][167]www.poca.com/join
     A  A  Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
     A  A  To: San Diego Panteras <[3][168]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>,
     Space City
     A  A  Panteras <[4][169]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
     A  A  Please spread the word!
     A  A  We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for
     people to
     A  A  sign up online.
     A  A  Simply go to
     A  A  [5][170]www.poca.com/join
     A  A  to have people sign up.
     A  A  You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows,
     events, etc.
     A  A  In addition, you can now choose the International option; no
     matter
     A  A  where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00
     instead
     A  A  of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital
     only"
     A  A  Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
     A  A  Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose
     the
     A  A  Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
     A  A  Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you
     get
     A  A  benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
     [6][171]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id
     =999896&
     A  A  module_id=225364
     A  A  Thanks,
     A  A  Ed Mendez
     A  A  PR Director - POCA
     A  A  [7][172]www.poca.com
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     Message: 7
     Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
     From: Michael Barnes <[186]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
     To: Detomaso <[187]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for aA  '74
     Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200 at phx.gbl>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
     Thanks in advance
     A  Michael
     Sent from my iPad
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     Message: 8
     Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
     From: Mike Drew <[188]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     To: Michael Barnes <[189]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
     Cc: Detomaso <[190]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for aA  '74
     Message-ID: <[191]5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49 at aol.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
     Michael,
     Here you go:A  [192]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
     Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling
     racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the
     inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all
     Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models.
     He probably offers a rebuild service too.
     If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
     spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
     compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking
     brake function.
     Cheers!
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad

     On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
     <[193]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
     Thanks in advance
     Michael
     Sent from my iPad
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     A  A  Michael,
     A  A  Here you go:A  [1][196]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
     A  A  Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of
     Girling racing
     A  A  division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the
     inventory,
     A  A  blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling
     products,
     A  A  and can even provide new castings for some models.
     A  A  He probably offers a rebuild service too.
     A  A  If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you
     pick up
     A  A  spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order
     to
     A  A  compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the
     parking
     A  A  brake function.
     A  A  Cheers!
     A  A  Mike
     A  A  Sent from my iPad
     A  A  On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
     A  A  <[2][197]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
     A  A  Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these
     please?
     A  A  Thanks in advance
     A  A  Michael
     A  A  Sent from my iPad
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     Message: 9
     Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
     From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[204]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
     To: "'[205]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
     A  A  A  A  <[206]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <[207]edducati at mac.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for
     [208]www.poca.com/join
     Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com>
     Content-Type: text/plain;A  A  A  A charset="utf-8"
     Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web
     site?
     If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to
     purchase in case there is one desired?
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso
     [mailto:[209]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of
     John Bennett
     Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM
     To: [210]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for
     [211]www.poca.com/join
     Great membership now only $50!

     Begin forwarded message:
     From: Ed Mendez <[212]edducati at mac.com>
     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [213]www.poca.com/join
     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
     To: San Diego Panteras <[214]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space
     City Panteras <[215]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
     Please spread the word!
     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people
     to sign up online.
     Simply go to
     [216]www.poca.com/join <[217]http://www.poca.com/join>
     to have people sign up.
     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events,
     etc.
     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00
     instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital
     only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
     Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
     [218]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99
     9896&module_id=225364
     <[219]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=9
     99896&module_id=225364>
     Thanks,
     Ed Mendez
     PR Director - POCA
     [220]www.poca.com <[221]http://www.poca.com/>
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 117. mailto:TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA at mail.gmail.com
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