[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Tue Jul 5 11:36:28 EDT 2016


    
Hi Owen:What has changed, thermostat ?Make sure it is a Cleveland specific unit. Is there air in the system ? Jack up the back end of the car and bleed the cooling system. Use a 50/50 premix antifreeze. Don't pull Tha radiator unless that is a last resort, and hood vents should never be required.

Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> 
Date: 2016-07-05  9:13 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: 'Owen Cooke' <owen at tadhgcooke.com> 
Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 

Good morning Owen.  Honestly - vents in the hood are a lot of work and, in
my opinion, not worth the effort.   You don't mention if your engine has
been upgraded, but, for reference, I am running a fairly powerful 351 (480
hp) and using a radiator supplied by Pantera Performance.  I believe they
use a radiator made by Ron Davis.  When I bought our car it came with a new
Fluidyne.  Which leaked.  Honestly - check the web - way too many of the
Fluidynes leak at the tube sheet.

The easiest option is to have your current radiator cleaned out.  This may
well solve the issue.  Of course, using an appropriate thermostat is also
right up in keeping things running cool.

None the less - I am glad to read that you are driving your Pantera!

Stephen Nelson


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Owen Cooke
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:13 AM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27

Guys  i need advice please


I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera

i have some cooling problems in traffic  even though i am in Ireland and its
never very hot here

rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the
hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but
they are the originals and not very powerful

i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans
kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller
fans  but i want to keep it upright

does this plan make sense
i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight
boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the
engine front  and it read about
160 degrees  until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery
small vasriation in reading  even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why
it would suddenly go wrong ?
i would appreciate advice

best regards  owen cooke

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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'MyCars'"
> 	<mycars at comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
> 	<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
> Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>
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> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said 
> that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the 
> farm this time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and 
> selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your
plans . . .
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America 
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>
> Congrats!
> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can 
> finish my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 
>> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres 
>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>
>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll 
>> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of 
>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'MyCars'
> 	<mycars at comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America'
> 	<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
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> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
frequently...
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>; 
> 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of 
> America'<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>
> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said 
> that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the 
> farm this time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and 
> selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your
plans . . .
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America 
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>
> Congrats!
> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can 
> finish my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 
>> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres 
>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>
>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll 
>> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of 
>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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>     I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
>     frequently...
>     Sent from my Windows Phone
>       
> __________________________________________________________________
>
>     From: [1]Mike Thomas
>     Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
>     To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of
>     America'
>     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>
>     Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
>     that
>     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm
>     this
>     time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
>     Pandora
>     could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>     Mike
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>     Behalf
>     Of Christopher Kimball
>     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>     To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>     Congrats!
>     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
>     finish
>     my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>     Sincerely,
>     Chris
>     > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     > From: mycars at comcast.net
>     > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>     >
>     > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
>     2
>     > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>     > worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>     >
>     > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
>     be
>     > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>     > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>     > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010 at aol.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
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> Hey, Hey it works!
>
> Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
>>     Dear Jeff,
>>
>>
>>
>>                        Hmmm.   I am a computer dope.  Try an email to :
>>     [1]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>
>>
>>
>>                                        You might also try to Google
>>     Detomasolist.com,   which might have the sign up info.    Also,
since
>>     you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new
>>     forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.   You might just try
>>     sending an email......      I hope that helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                                           Warmest
regards,
>>     Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>     From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>     Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>>     To: cengles at cox.net
>>     Subject: Re: Tech Session
>>
>>
>>     Where do I find the new old forum?
>>
>>
>>     In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>     [2]cengles at cox.net writes:
>>
>>     Dear Jeff,
>>
>>
>>
>>                   Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC,
>>     $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.  I will try to find the pdf and sent it to
you
>>     directly.
>>
>>
>>                   Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit
by
>>     Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.  The New Old Forum is good.
Mr.
>>     Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>>
>>
>>                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     rom: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>     Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>>     To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>>     Subject: Tech Session
>>
>>
>>     Chuck,
>>
>>
>>     Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be
>>     reimbursed for?
>>
>>
>>     Jeff
>>
>>
>>     PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     2. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>
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> -------------- next part --------------
>     Hey, Hey it works!
>     Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>     Jeff
>     6559
>
>     On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net>
>     wrote:
>
>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  A I am a computer dope.A
>       Try an email to :
>       A  A [1][2]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  You might
>       also try to Google
>       A  A Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up info.A  A
>       Also,A  since
>       A  A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to
>       the new
>       A  A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You might
>       just try
>       A  A sending an email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A
>       A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,
>       A  A Chuck Engles
>       A  A From: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:[4]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>       A  A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>       A  A To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>       A  A Subject: Re: Tech Session
>       A  A Where do I find the new old forum?
>       A  A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
>       Time,
>       A  A [2][6]cengles at cox.net writes:
>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total
>       of, IIRC,
>       A  A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and sent
>       it to you
>       A  A directly.
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats
>       of lawsuit by
>       A  A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum is
>       good.A  A Mr.
>       A  A Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,A
>       Chuck Engles
>       A  A rom: [3][7]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>       A  A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>       A  A To: [5][9]cengles at cox.net
>       A  A Subject: Tech Session
>       A  A Chuck,
>       A  A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want
>       to be
>       A  A reimbursed for?
>       A  A Jeff
>       A  A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>       References
>       A  A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>       A  A 2. mailto:[11]cengles at cox.net
>       A  A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010 at aol.com
>       A  A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010 at aol.com
>       A  A 5. mailto:[14]cengles at cox.net
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: laurieferrari at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
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> Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication 
> for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 
> 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board 
> with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some 
> bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>
> So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks 
> for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty 
> of material for the magazine.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso < 
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>>     Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in
>>     light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews
>>     with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special
cars
>>     personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information,
>>     networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
>>     Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report
Section
>>     of Profiles.
>>     I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to
be
>>     positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.  I know
>>     that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>>     entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer.
>>     Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000.
yearly
>>     savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever
>>     reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned
even
>>     though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem
>>     that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede
>>     personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board
has
>>     voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need
>>     to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
>>     membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and
>>     a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new
>>     benefits we are seeing.
>>     I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your
>>     stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no
>>     information is too little.  Let's all contribute to a fabulous
Profiles
>>     issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>>     information on the membership information page.
>>     My warmest greetings to everyone!
>>     Laurie
>>
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>     Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication
>     for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be
50%
>     higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with
>     the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides
>     for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>     So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks
>     for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty
of
>     material for the magazine.
>     Jeff
>     6559
>
>     On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
>     <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>       A  A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
>       Editor in
>       A  A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
>       interviews
>       A  A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
>       special cars
>       A  A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
>       information,
>       A  A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
>       A  A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report
>       Section
>       A  A of Profiles.
>       A  A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I
>       aim to be
>       A  A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I know
>       A  A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>       A  A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
>       printer.
>       A  A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an
>       $8,000. yearly
>       A  A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For
>       whatever
>       A  A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
>       resigned even
>       A  A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would
>       seem
>       A  A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
>       supersede
>       A  A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the
>       Board has
>       A  A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions
>       need
>       A  A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
>       A  A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people
>       and
>       A  A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new
>       A  A benefits we are seeing.
>       A  A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your
>       A  A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
>       pictures; no
>       A  A information is too little.A  Let's all contribute to a fabulous
>       Profiles
>       A  A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>       A  A information on the membership information page.
>       A  A My warmest greetings to everyone!
>       A  A Laurie
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
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> I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from 
> Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a
car door.
> It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door.
>
> http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_c
> ars.htm
>
> Jeff
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>> Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>> http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.ht
>> ml
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Barnes
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>
>> Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process 
>> of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a 
>> friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the 
>> plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and
inevitably corrosion"
>> What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>     I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
>     Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on
a
>     car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the
>     door.
>
[1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for
>     _cars.htm
>     Jeff
>
>     On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee at cox.net>
>     wrote:
>
>       Michael,
>       I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>       Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>       [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma
>       t.html
>       John
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>       On Behalf
>
>     Of Michael Barnes
>     Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>     To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>     Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process
of
>     refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends
>     dad
>     gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on
>     the
>     door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
>     corrosion"
>     What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>     Thanks for any input
>     Michael
>     Sent from my iPad
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m
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
> From: John Bennett <jbennett111 at zoho.com>
> To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> 	<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
> Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797 at zoho.com>
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> Great membership now only $50!
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City 
>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>
>> Please spread the word!
>>
>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
sign up online.
>>
>> Simply go to
>>
>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>
>> to have people sign up.
>>
>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>
>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where
you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00.
What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and
Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>
>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the 
>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>
>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>
>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&m
>> odule_id=225364 
>> <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
>> module_id=225364>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed Mendez
>>
>> PR Director - POCA
>>
>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
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>     Great membership now only $50!
>
>     Begin forwarded message:
>
>     From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
>
>     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join
>
>     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>
>     To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
>     Panteras <[4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>
>     Please spread the word!
>     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
>     sign up online.
>     Simply go to
>     [5]www.poca.com/join
>     to have people sign up.
>     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
>     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead
>     of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only"
>     Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
>     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>     Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
>     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>
[6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
>     module_id=225364
>     Thanks,
>     Ed Mendez
>     PR Director - POCA
>     [7]www.poca.com
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>     7. http://www.poca.com/
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
> From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
> Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
> Thanks in advance
>
>   Michael
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
> Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49 at aol.com>
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>
> Michael,
>
> Here you go:  http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>
> Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing
division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints
and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even
provide new castings for some models.
>
> He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>
> If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the
piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
<michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>     Michael,
>
>     Here you go:  [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>
>     Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing
>     division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
>     blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products,
>     and can even provide new castings for some models.
>
>     He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>
>     If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
>     spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
>     compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking
>     brake function.
>
>     Cheers!
>
>     Mike
>     Sent from my iPad
>
>     On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
>     <[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>     Thanks in advance
>     Michael
>     Sent from my iPad
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>     4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> To: "'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
> 	<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
> Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site?
> If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to
purchase in case there is one desired?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
> Behalf Of John Bennett
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM
> To: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>
> Great membership now only $50!
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City 
>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>
>> Please spread the word!
>>
>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to
sign up online.
>>
>> Simply go to
>>
>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>
>> to have people sign up.
>>
>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>
>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where
you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00.
What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and
Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>
>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the 
>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>
>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>
>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&m
>> odule_id=225364 
>> <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
>> module_id=225364>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed Mendez
>>
>> PR Director - POCA
>>
>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
>>
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   Hi Owen:

   What has changed, thermostat ?

   Make sure it is a Cleveland specific unit. Is there air in the system ?
   Jack up the back end of the car and bleed the cooling system. Use a
   50/50 premix antifreeze. Don't pull Tha radiator unless that is a last
   resort, and hood vents should never be required.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
   Date: 2016-07-05 9:13 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: 'Owen Cooke' <owen at tadhgcooke.com>
   Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
   Good morning Owen.  Honestly - vents in the hood are a lot of work and,
   in
   my opinion, not worth the effort.   You don't mention if your engine
   has
   been upgraded, but, for reference, I am running a fairly powerful 351
   (480
   hp) and using a radiator supplied by Pantera Performance.  I believe
   they
   use a radiator made by Ron Davis.  When I bought our car it came with a
   new
   Fluidyne.  Which leaked.  Honestly - check the web - way too many of
   the
   Fluidynes leak at the tube sheet.
   The easiest option is to have your current radiator cleaned out.  This
   may
   well solve the issue.  Of course, using an appropriate thermostat is
   also
   right up in keeping things running cool.
   None the less - I am glad to read that you are driving your Pantera!
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Owen Cooke
   Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:13 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
   Guys  i need advice please
   I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
   i have some cooling problems in traffic  even though i am in Ireland
   and its
   never very hot here
   rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that
   the
   hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were
   working but
   they are the originals and not very powerful
   i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and
   fans
   kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with
   puller
   fans  but i want to keep it upright
   does this plan make sense
   i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight
   boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on
   the
   engine front  and it read about
   160 degrees  until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only
   veery
   small vasriation in reading  even when engine is cold any quick ideas
   on why
   it would suddenly go wrong ?
   i would appreciate advice
   best regards  owen cooke
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   >     1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas)
   >     2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball)
   >     3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich)
   >     4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich)
   >     5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich)
   >     6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett)
   >     7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74 (Michael Barnes)
   >     8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74 (Mike Drew)
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   > Message: 1
   > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
   > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   > To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'MyCars'"
   > <mycars at comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   > Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
   > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the
   > farm this time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and
   > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in
   your
   plans . . .
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
   > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
   > To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >
   > Congrats!
   > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
   > finish my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> From: mycars at comcast.net
   >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >>
   >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
   >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
   >> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
   >>
   >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
   >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
   >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
   >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
   >> _______________________________________________
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   > Message: 2
   > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'MyCars'
   > <mycars at comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America'
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   > Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0 at phx.gbl>
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   >
   > I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
   frequently...
   >
   > Sent from my Windows Phone
   > ________________________________
   > From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   > Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
   > To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>;
   > 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of
   > America'<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >
   > Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said
   > that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the
   > farm this time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and
   > selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in
   your
   plans . . .
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
   > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
   > To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >
   > Congrats!
   > I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
   > finish my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> From: mycars at comcast.net
   >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >>
   >> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been
   >> 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
   >> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
   >>
   >> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll
   >> be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
   >> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
   >> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
   >> _______________________________________________
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   > -------------- next part --------------
   >     I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
   >     frequently...
   >     Sent from my Windows Phone
   >
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >     From: [1]Mike Thomas
   >     Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
   >     To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners
   Club of
   >     America'
   >     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >
   >     Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have
   said
   >     that
   >     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the
   farm
   >     this
   >     time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
   >     Pandora
   >     could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans .
   . .
   >     Mike
   >     -----Original Message-----
   >     From: DeTomaso
   [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   >     Behalf
   >     Of Christopher Kimball
   >     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
   >     To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
   >     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >     Congrats!
   >     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I
   can
   >     finish
   >     my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
   >     Sincerely,
   >     Chris
   >     > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     > From: mycars at comcast.net
   >     > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
   >     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
   >     >
   >     > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has
   been
   >     2
   >     > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few
   acres
   >     > worth of avocados to a local distributor.
   >     >
   >     > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados,
   I'll
   >     be
   >     > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera &
   convertible
   >     > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two
   years of
   >     > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some
   roads.
   >     > _______________________________________________
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   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 3
   > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010 at aol.com>
   > To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Hey, Hey it works!
   >
   > Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:
   >
   >>     Dear Jeff,
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                        Hmmm.   I am a computer dope.  Try an email
   to :
   >>     [1]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                                        You might also try to Google
   >>     Detomasolist.com,   which might have the sign up info.    Also,
   since
   >>     you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to
   the new
   >>     forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.   You might just
   try
   >>     sending an email......      I hope that helps.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                                                           Warmest
   regards,
   >>     Chuck Engles
   >>
   >>
   >>     From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
   >>     Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
   >>     To: cengles at cox.net
   >>     Subject: Re: Tech Session
   >>
   >>
   >>     Where do I find the new old forum?
   >>
   >>
   >>     In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
   >>     [2]cengles at cox.net writes:
   >>
   >>     Dear Jeff,
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                   Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC,
   >>     $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.  I will try to find the pdf and sent it
   to
   you
   >>     directly.
   >>
   >>
   >>                   Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of
   lawsuit
   by
   >>     Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.  The New Old Forum is
   good.
   Mr.
   >>     Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
   >>
   >>
   >>                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>     rom: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
   >>     Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
   >>     To: [5]cengles at cox.net
   >>     Subject: Tech Session
   >>
   >>
   >>     Chuck,
   >>
   >>
   >>     Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want
   to be
   >>     reimbursed for?
   >>
   >>
   >>     Jeff
   >>
   >>
   >>     PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >>     1. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>     2. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >>
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   >     Hey, Hey it works!
   >     Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
   >     Jeff
   >     6559
   >
   >     On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles
   <[1]cengles at cox.net>
   >     wrote:
   >
   >       A  A Dear Jeff,
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  A I am a computer
   dope.A
   >       Try an email to :
   >       A  A [1][2]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  You
   might
   >       also try to Google
   >       A  A Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up info.A
   A
   >       Also,A  since
   >       A  A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you
   to
   >       the new
   >       A  A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You
   might
   >       just try
   >       A  A sending an email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A
   A  A
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,
   >       A  A Chuck Engles
   >       A  A From: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:[4]JJD1010 at aol.com]
   >       A  A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
   >       A  A To: [5]cengles at cox.net
   >       A  A Subject: Re: Tech Session
   >       A  A Where do I find the new old forum?
   >       A  A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
   >       Time,
   >       A  A [2][6]cengles at cox.net writes:
   >       A  A Dear Jeff,
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, I sent the attachment for the
   total
   >       of, IIRC,
   >       A  A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and
   sent
   >       it to you
   >       A  A directly.
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite
   threats
   >       of lawsuit by
   >       A  A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum
   is
   >       good.A  A Mr.
   >       A  A Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
   >       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,A
   >       Chuck Engles
   >       A  A rom: [3][7]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010 at aol.com]
   >       A  A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
   >       A  A To: [5][9]cengles at cox.net
   >       A  A Subject: Tech Session
   >       A  A Chuck,
   >       A  A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you
   want
   >       to be
   >       A  A reimbursed for?
   >       A  A Jeff
   >       A  A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss
   it!
   >       References
   >       A  A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >       A  A 2. mailto:[11]cengles at cox.net
   >       A  A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010 at aol.com
   >       A  A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010 at aol.com
   >       A  A 5. mailto:[14]cengles at cox.net
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   >     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >     6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >     7. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >     8. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >     9. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >    10. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >    11. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >    12. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >    13. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
   >    14. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   >    15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >    16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 4
   > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: laurieferrari at aol.com
   > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication
   > for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be
   > 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board
   > with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some
   > bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was
   ignored.
   >
   > So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks
   > for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty
   > of material for the magazine.
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <
   > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >>     Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
   Editor in
   >>     light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
   interviews
   >>     with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
   special
   cars
   >>     personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
   information,
   >>     networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
   >>     Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report
   Section
   >>     of Profiles.
   >>     I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I
   aim to
   be
   >>     positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.  I know
   >>     that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
   >>     entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
   printer.
   >>     Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000.
   yearly
   >>     savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever
   >>     reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
   resigned
   even
   >>     though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would
   seem
   >>     that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
   supersede
   >>     personal interests, most especially when the majority of the
   Board
   has
   >>     voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions
   need
   >>     to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
   >>     membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people
   and
   >>     a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new
   >>     benefits we are seeing.
   >>     I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your
   >>     stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures;
   no
   >>     information is too little.  Let's all contribute to a fabulous
   Profiles
   >>     issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
   >>     information on the membership information page.
   >>     My warmest greetings to everyone!
   >>     Laurie
   >>
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   >     Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for
   publication
   >     for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to
   be
   50%
   >     higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board
   with
   >     the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some
   bides
   >     for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was
   ignored.
   >     So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and
   thanks
   >     for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you
   plenty
   of
   >     material for the magazine.
   >     Jeff
   >     6559
   >
   >     On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
   >     <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >       A  A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
   >       Editor in
   >       A  A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
   >       interviews
   >       A  A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
   >       special cars
   >       A  A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
   >       information,
   >       A  A networking with people of interest, and calling on all
   Chapter
   >       A  A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter
   Report
   >       Section
   >       A  A of Profiles.
   >       A  A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late
   and I
   >       aim to be
   >       A  A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I
   know
   >       A  A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently
   been
   >       A  A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
   >       printer.
   >       A  A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an
   >       $8,000. yearly
   >       A  A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For
   >       whatever
   >       A  A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
   >       resigned even
   >       A  A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it
   would
   >       seem
   >       A  A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
   >       supersede
   >       A  A personal interests, most especially when the majority of
   the
   >       Board has
   >       A  A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but
   decisions
   >       need
   >       A  A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the
   entire
   >       A  A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible
   people
   >       and
   >       A  A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the
   many new
   >       A  A benefits we are seeing.
   >       A  A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with
   your
   >       A  A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
   >       pictures; no
   >       A  A information is too little.A  Let's all contribute to a
   fabulous
   >       Profiles
   >       A  A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my
   contact
   >       A  A information on the membership information page.
   >       A  A My warmest greetings to everyone!
   >       A  A Laurie
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   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 5
   > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
   > Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
   > Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on
   a
   car door.
   > It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door.
   >
   >
   http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_c
   > ars.htm
   >
   > Jeff
   >
   > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
   wrote:
   >
   >> Michael,
   >> I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
   >> Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
   >>
   http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.ht
   >> ml
   >>
   >> John
   >>
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   >> Behalf Of Michael Barnes
   >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
   >> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
   >>
   >> Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process
   >> of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a
   >> friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the
   >> plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation
   and
   inevitably corrosion"
   >> What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
   >>
   >> Thanks for any input
   >>
   >> Michael
   >>
   >> Sent from my iPad
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   > -------------- next part --------------
   >     I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material
   from
   >     Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor
   barrier on
   a
   >     car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to
   the
   >     door.
   >
   [1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for
   >     _cars.htm
   >     Jeff
   >
   >     On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee
   <[2]johnmckee at cox.net>
   >     wrote:
   >
   >       Michael,
   >       I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
   >       Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
   >
   [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma
   >       t.html
   >       John
   >       -----Original Message-----
   >       From: DeTomaso
   [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   >       On Behalf
   >
   >     Of Michael Barnes
   >     Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
   >     To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >     Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
   >     Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the
   process
   of
   >     refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a
   friends
   >     dad
   >     gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic
   back on
   >     the
   >     door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
   >     corrosion"
   >     What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
   >     Thanks for any input
   >     Michael
   >     Sent from my iPad
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   > References
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   >     1.
   http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_ca
   rs.ht
   m
   >     2. mailto:johnmckee at cox.net
   >     3.
   http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html
   >     4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   >     5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 6
   > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
   > From: John Bennett <jbennett111 at zoho.com>
   > To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
   > Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797 at zoho.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Great membership now only $50!
   >
   >> Begin forwarded message:
   >>
   >> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   >> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
   >> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
   >> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
   >> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
   >>
   >> Please spread the word!
   >>
   >> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people
   to
   sign up online.
   >>
   >> Simply go to
   >>
   >> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
   >>
   >> to have people sign up.
   >>
   >> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events,
   etc.
   >>
   >> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
   where
   you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of
   $75.00.
   What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and
   Profiles in full color pdf format.
   >>
   >> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
   >> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
   >>
   >> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
   benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
   >>
   >>
   https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&m
   >> odule_id=225364
   >>
   <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
   >> module_id=225364>
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Ed Mendez
   >>
   >> PR Director - POCA
   >>
   >> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
   >>
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   > -------------- next part --------------
   >     Great membership now only $50!
   >
   >     Begin forwarded message:
   >
   >     From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
   >
   >     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join
   >
   >     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
   >
   >     To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space
   City
   >     Panteras <[4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
   >
   >     Please spread the word!
   >     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for
   people to
   >     sign up online.
   >     Simply go to
   >     [5]www.poca.com/join
   >     to have people sign up.
   >     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events,
   etc.
   >     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no
   matter
   >     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00
   instead
   >     of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital
   only"
   >     Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
   >     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
   >     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
   >     Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
   >     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
   >
   [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
   >     module_id=225364
   >     Thanks,
   >     Ed Mendez
   >     PR Director - POCA
   >     [7]www.poca.com
   >
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   > References
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   >     1. mailto:edducati at mac.com
   >     2. http://www.poca.com/join
   >     3. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
   >     4. mailto:SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
   >     5. http://www.poca.com/join
   >     6.
   https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod
   ule_i
   d=225364
   >     7. http://www.poca.com/
   >     8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com
   >     9. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
   >    10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 7
   > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
   > From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
   > To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
   > Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
   > Thanks in advance
   >
   >   Michael
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 8
   > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
   > From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   > To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
   > Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
   > Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49 at aol.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > Michael,
   >
   > Here you go:  http://performance-braking.co.uk/
   >
   > Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling
   racing
   division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
   blueprints
   and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even
   provide new castings for some models.
   >
   > He probably offers a rebuild service too.
   >
   > If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
   spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
   compress the
   piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function.
   >
   > Cheers!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
   <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
   >>
   >> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
   >> Thanks in advance
   >>
   >> Michael
   >>
   >> Sent from my iPad
   >> _______________________________________________
   >>
   >>
   >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not
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   > -------------- next part --------------
   >     Michael,
   >
   >     Here you go:  [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
   >
   >     Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling
   racing
   >     division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
   >     blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling
   products,
   >     and can even provide new castings for some models.
   >
   >     He probably offers a rebuild service too.
   >
   >     If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick
   up
   >     spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
   >     compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the
   parking
   >     brake function.
   >
   >     Cheers!
   >
   >     Mike
   >     Sent from my iPad
   >
   >     On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
   >     <[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
   >
   >     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
   >     Thanks in advance
   >     Michael
   >     Sent from my iPad
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   > References
   >
   >     1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/
   >     2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
   >     3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 9
   > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
   > From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   > To: "'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
   > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
   > Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site?
   > If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to
   purchase in case there is one desired?
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   > Behalf Of John Bennett
   > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM
   > To: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
   >
   > Great membership now only $50!
   >
   >> Begin forwarded message:
   >>
   >> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   >> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
   >> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
   >> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
   >> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
   >>
   >> Please spread the word!
   >>
   >> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people
   to
   sign up online.
   >>
   >> Simply go to
   >>
   >> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
   >>
   >> to have people sign up.
   >>
   >> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events,
   etc.
   >>
   >> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
   where
   you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of
   $75.00.
   What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and
   Profiles in full color pdf format.
   >>
   >> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
   >> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
   >>
   >> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
   benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
   >>
   >>
   https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&m
   >> odule_id=225364
   >>
   <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
   >> module_id=225364>
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Ed Mendez
   >>
   >> PR Director - POCA
   >>
   >> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
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