[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27

MyCars mycars at comcast.net
Tue Jul 5 11:03:24 EDT 2016


Check the lines for leaks, you may have air in the system.


On 7/5/2016 7:13 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
> Guys i need advice please
>
>
> I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
>
> i have some cooling problems in traffic  even though i am in Ireland 
> and its never very hot here
>
> rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood
> i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over
> the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful
>
> i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and 
> fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts
> this the one with puller fans  but i want to keep it upright
>
> does this plan make sense
> i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight 
> boiling over in the swirl tank once
> also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front  and it read about 
> 160 degrees  until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only 
> veery small vasriation in reading  even when engine is cold
> any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ?
> i would appreciate advice
>
> best regards  owen cooke
>
> On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com wrote:
>> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to
>>     detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>     http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>     detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>     detomaso-owner at server.detomasolist.com
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."
>>
>>
>> Daily Detomaso List Digest
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>     1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas)
>>     2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball)
>>     3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich)
>>     4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich)
>>     5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich)
>>     6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett)
>>     7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74 (Michael Barnes)
>>     8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74 (Mike Drew)
>>     9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>        (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'MyCars'"
>>     <mycars at comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>> Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said 
>> that
>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm 
>> this
>> time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling 
>> Pandora
>> could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Kimball
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>> Congrats!
>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can 
>> finish
>> my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>> Sincerely,
>> Chris
>>
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2
>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>>
>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be
>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed
>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>> the links above.
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.
>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>> approve
>> the archiving of list messages.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'MyCars'
>>     <mycars at comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America'
>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>> Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more 
>> frequently...
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
>> To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>; 
>> 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of 
>> America'<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>> Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have said 
>> that
>> when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm 
>> this
>> time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling 
>> Pandora
>> could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Kimball
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>> Congrats!
>> I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can 
>> finish
>> my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>> Sincerely,
>> Chris
>>
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> From: mycars at comcast.net
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>>
>>> So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2
>>> years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>> worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>>
>>> Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be
>>> able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>> Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of
>>> being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed
>>> 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>> the links above.
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.
>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>> approve
>> the archiving of list messages.
>>
>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more
>>     frequently...
>>     Sent from my Windows Phone
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>>     From: [1]Mike Thomas
>>     Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
>>     To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners 
>> Club of
>>     America'
>>     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>
>>     Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one sense at least.  Some have 
>> said
>>     that
>>     when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm
>>     this
>>     time . . .".  So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling
>>     Pandora
>>     could mean one ant the same.  I know that is not in your plans . . .
>>     Mike
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: DeTomaso 
>> [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>     Behalf
>>     Of Christopher Kimball
>>     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
>>     To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America
>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>     Congrats!
>>     I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can
>>     finish
>>     my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a farm...
>>     Sincerely,
>>     Chris
>>     > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     > From: mycars at comcast.net
>>     > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
>>     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
>>     >
>>     > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has 
>> been
>>     2
>>     > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres
>>     > worth of avocados to a local distributor.
>>     >
>>     > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, 
>> I'll
>>     be
>>     > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible
>>     > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two 
>> years of
>>     > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some 
>> roads.
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not
>>     exceed
>>     > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list 
>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     > [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>     >
>>     > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>> etc.)
>>     use
>>     the links above.
>>     >
>>     > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
>>     any
>>     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
>>     list.
>>     They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or
>>     approve
>>     the archiving of list messages.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>     2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>>     3. mailto:mycars at comcast.net
>>     4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>     6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010 at aol.com>
>> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
>> Message-ID:
>>     <CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hey, Hey it works!
>>
>> Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>>
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>     Dear Jeff,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                        Hmmm.   I am a computer dope.  Try an email to :
>>>     [1]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                        You might also try to Google
>>>     Detomasolist.com,   which might have the sign up info. Also,  since
>>>     you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to 
>>> the new
>>>     forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.   You might just 
>>> try
>>>     sending an email......      I hope that helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest regards,
>>>     Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>     Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>>>     To: cengles at cox.net
>>>     Subject: Re: Tech Session
>>>
>>>
>>>     Where do I find the new old forum?
>>>
>>>
>>>     In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>     [2]cengles at cox.net writes:
>>>
>>>     Dear Jeff,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                   Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC,
>>>     $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.  I will try to find the pdf and sent it 
>>> to you
>>>     directly.
>>>
>>>
>>>                   Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of 
>>> lawsuit by
>>>     Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.  The New Old Forum is 
>>> good.   Mr.
>>>     Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>>>
>>>
>>>                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     rom: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>>     Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>>>     To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>>>     Subject: Tech Session
>>>
>>>
>>>     Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>     Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want 
>>> to be
>>>     reimbursed for?
>>>
>>>
>>>     Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>     PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>>     1. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     2. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>>> the links above.
>>>
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the 
>>> list.
>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>>> approve
>>> the archiving of list messages.
>>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     Hey, Hey it works!
>>     Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
>>     Jeff
>>     6559
>>
>>     On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  A I am a computer dope.A
>>       Try an email to :
>>       A  A [1][2]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A You might
>>       also try to Google
>>       A  A Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up info.A  A
>>       Also,A  since
>>       A  A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to
>>       the new
>>       A  A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You might
>>       just try
>>       A  A sending an email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A A  A  A  A
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards,
>>       A  A Chuck Engles
>>       A  A From: [3]JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:[4]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>       A  A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
>>       A  A To: [5]cengles at cox.net
>>       A  A Subject: Re: Tech Session
>>       A  A Where do I find the new old forum?
>>       A  A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
>>       Time,
>>       A  A [2][6]cengles at cox.net writes:
>>       A  A Dear Jeff,
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total
>>       of, IIRC,
>>       A  A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and 
>> sent
>>       it to you
>>       A  A directly.
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite 
>> threats
>>       of lawsuit by
>>       A  A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum is
>>       good.A  A Mr.
>>       A  A Shortt is suffering from mental illness.
>>       A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,A
>>       Chuck Engles
>>       A  A rom: [3][7]JJD1010 at aol.com [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010 at aol.com]
>>       A  A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
>>       A  A To: [5][9]cengles at cox.net
>>       A  A Subject: Tech Session
>>       A  A Chuck,
>>       A  A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you 
>> want
>>       to be
>>       A  A reimbursed for?
>>       A  A Jeff
>>       A  A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it!
>>       References
>>       A  A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>       A  A 2. mailto:[11]cengles at cox.net
>>       A  A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010 at aol.com
>>       A  A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010 at aol.com
>>       A  A 5. mailto:[14]cengles at cox.net
>>       _______________________________________________
>>       Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>       Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>       DeTomaso mailing list
>>       [15]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>       To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>       etc.) use the links above.
>>       Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
>>       any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
>>       the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
>>       archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>     2. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     3. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     4. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     5. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>     6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>     7. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     8. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>     9. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>    10. mailto:deTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    11. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>    12. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>    13. mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com
>>    14. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>    15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>> To: laurieferrari at aol.com
>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
>> Message-ID:
>>     <CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for
>> the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% 
>> higher
>> than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the
>> recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for 
>> the
>> magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>>
>> So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks 
>> for
>> taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of
>> material for the magazine.
>>
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>>     Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles 
>>> Editor in
>>>     light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews
>>>     with new members, long time members, obtaining details of 
>>> special cars
>>>     personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information,
>>>     networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter
>>>     Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report 
>>> Section
>>>     of Profiles.
>>>     I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I 
>>> aim to be
>>>     positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.  I know
>>>     that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>>>     entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer.
>>>     Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. 
>>> yearly
>>>     savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever
>>>     reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he 
>>> resigned even
>>>     though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem
>>>     that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede
>>>     personal interests, most especially when the majority of the 
>>> Board has
>>>     voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions 
>>> need
>>>     to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire
>>>     membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and
>>>     a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new
>>>     benefits we are seeing.
>>>     I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your
>>>     stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no
>>>     information is too little.  Let's all contribute to a fabulous 
>>> Profiles
>>>     issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>>>     information on the membership information page.
>>>     My warmest greetings to everyone!
>>>     Laurie
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>>> the links above.
>>>
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the 
>>> list.
>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>>> approve
>>> the archiving of list messages.
>>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication
>>     for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to 
>> be 50%
>>     higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with
>>     the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some 
>> bides
>>     for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
>>     So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and 
>> thanks
>>     for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you 
>> plenty of
>>     material for the magazine.
>>     Jeff
>>     6559
>>
>>     On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
>>     <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>       A  A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
>>       Editor in
>>       A  A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
>>       interviews
>>       A  A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of
>>       special cars
>>       A  A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales
>>       information,
>>       A  A networking with people of interest, and calling on all 
>> Chapter
>>       A  A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter 
>> Report
>>       Section
>>       A  A of Profiles.
>>       A  A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I
>>       aim to be
>>       A  A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I 
>> know
>>       A  A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been
>>       A  A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of
>>       printer.
>>       A  A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an
>>       $8,000. yearly
>>       A  A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For
>>       whatever
>>       A  A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
>>       resigned even
>>       A  A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would
>>       seem
>>       A  A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would
>>       supersede
>>       A  A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the
>>       Board has
>>       A  A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but 
>> decisions
>>       need
>>       A  A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the 
>> entire
>>       A  A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people
>>       and
>>       A  A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the 
>> many new
>>       A  A benefits we are seeing.
>>       A  A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with 
>> your
>>       A  A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
>>       pictures; no
>>       A  A information is too little.A  Let's all contribute to a 
>> fabulous
>>       Profiles
>>       A  A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact
>>       A  A information on the membership information page.
>>       A  A My warmest greetings to everyone!
>>       A  A Laurie
>>       _______________________________________________
>>       Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>       Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>       DeTomaso mailing list
>>       [2]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>       To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>       etc.) use the links above.
>>       Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
>>       any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
>>       the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
>>       archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     2. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
>> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>> To: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>> Message-ID:
>>     <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from 
>> Cascade
>> Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car 
>> door.
>> It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door.
>>
>> http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars.htm 
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>> I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>>> Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>>> http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Michael Barnes
>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>>> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>>
>>> Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of
>>> refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a 
>>> friends dad
>>> gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back 
>>> on the
>>> door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably 
>>> corrosion"
>>> What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not 
>>> exceed 1.5
>>> Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>>> the links above.
>>>
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the 
>>> list.
>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>>> approve
>>> the archiving of list messages.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use
>>> the links above.
>>>
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the 
>>> list.
>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or 
>>> approve
>>> the archiving of list messages.
>>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from
>>     Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor 
>> barrier on a
>>     car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the
>>     door.
>> [1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for
>>     _cars.htm
>>     Jeff
>>
>>     On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee at cox.net>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>       Michael,
>>       I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic.
>>       Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
>> [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma
>>       t.html
>>       John
>>       -----Original Message-----
>>       From: DeTomaso 
>> [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>       On Behalf
>>
>>     Of Michael Barnes
>>     Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>>     To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
>>     Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the 
>> process of
>>     refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a 
>> friends
>>     dad
>>     gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic 
>> back on
>>     the
>>     door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably
>>     corrosion"
>>     What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it?
>>     Thanks for any input
>>     Michael
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not 
>> exceed
>>     1.5
>>     Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>     To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>> etc.)
>>     use
>>     the links above.
>>     Members who post to this list grant license to the list to 
>> forward any
>>     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
>>     list.
>>     They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or
>>     approve
>>     the archiving of list messages.
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>     Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>     DeTomaso mailing list
>>     [8]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>     To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>> etc.)
>>     use the links above.
>>     Members who post to this list grant license to the list to 
>> forward any
>>     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
>>     list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an 
>> archive
>>     or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. 
>> http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars.htm
>>     2. mailto:johnmckee at cox.net
>>     3. 
>> http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html
>>     4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>     5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>     8. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
>> From: John Bennett <jbennett111 at zoho.com>
>> To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>> Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797 at zoho.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Great membership now only $50!
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City 
>>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>>
>>> Please spread the word!
>>>
>>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people 
>>> to sign up online.
>>>
>>> Simply go to
>>>
>>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>>
>>> to have people sign up.
>>>
>>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>>
>>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter 
>>> where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 
>>> instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital 
>>> only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>>
>>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the 
>>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>>
>>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get 
>>> benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>>
>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364 
>>> <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ed Mendez
>>>
>>> PR Director - POCA
>>>
>>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "SDPANTERAS" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
>>> send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com>.
>>> To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras at googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     Great membership now only $50!
>>
>>     Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>     From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
>>
>>     Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join
>>
>>     Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>
>>     To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City
>>     Panteras <[4]SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>     Please spread the word!
>>     We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for 
>> people to
>>     sign up online.
>>     Simply go to
>>     [5]www.poca.com/join
>>     to have people sign up.
>>     You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, 
>> etc.
>>     In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter
>>     where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 
>> instead
>>     of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only"
>>     Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>     Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the
>>     Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>     Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get
>>     benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>> [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&
>>     module_id=225364
>>     Thanks,
>>     Ed Mendez
>>     PR Director - POCA
>>     [7]www.poca.com
>>
>>       --
>>       You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>       Groups "SDPANTERAS" group.
>>       To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>       send an email to [8]sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
>>       To post to this group, send email to 
>> [9]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com.
>>       For more options, visit [10]https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>>     2. http://www.poca.com/join
>>     3. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>     4. mailto:SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com
>>     5. http://www.poca.com/join
>>     6. 
>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364
>>     7. http://www.poca.com/
>>     8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com
>>     9. mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>    10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
>> From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
>> Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>   Michael
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
>> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a  '74
>> Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Here you go:  http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>
>> Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling 
>> racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the 
>> inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all 
>> Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models.
>>
>> He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>>
>> If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up 
>> spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to 
>> compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking 
>> brake function.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes 
>>> <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>> etc.) use the links above.
>>>
>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward 
>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of 
>>> the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an 
>>> archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>>     Michael,
>>
>>     Here you go:  [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>
>>     Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling 
>> racing
>>     division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
>>     blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling 
>> products,
>>     and can even provide new castings for some models.
>>
>>     He probably offers a rebuild service too.
>>
>>     If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up
>>     spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to
>>     compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking
>>     brake function.
>>
>>     Cheers!
>>
>>     Mike
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>
>>     On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
>>     <[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>     Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please?
>>     Thanks in advance
>>     Michael
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
>>     Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>     DeTomaso mailing list
>>     [3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>     To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>> etc.)
>>     use the links above.
>>     Members who post to this list grant license to the list to 
>> forward any
>>     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
>>     list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an 
>> archive
>>     or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>
>> References
>>
>>     1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/
>>     2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>     3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>     4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
>> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
>>     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>> Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site?
>> If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to 
>> purchase in case there is one desired?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>> Behalf Of John Bennett
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM
>> To: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>
>> Great membership now only $50!
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
>>> Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
>>> To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Space City 
>>> Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>
>>>
>>> Please spread the word!
>>>
>>> We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people 
>>> to sign up online.
>>>
>>> Simply go to
>>>
>>> www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join>
>>>
>>> to have people sign up.
>>>
>>> You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc.
>>>
>>> In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter 
>>> where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 
>>> instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital 
>>> only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format.
>>>
>>> Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the 
>>> Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
>>>
>>> Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get 
>>> benefits the club and yourself. Details here:
>>>
>>> https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364 
>>> <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&module_id=225364> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ed Mendez
>>>
>>> PR Director - POCA
>>>
>>> www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "SDPANTERAS" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
>>> send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com>.
>>> To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras at googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Digest Footer
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward 
>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of 
>> the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an 
>> archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
>> *****************************************
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) 
> use the links above.
>
> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any 
> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the 
> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive 
> or approve the archiving of list messages.
>



More information about the DeTomaso mailing list