[DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

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Fri Jul 1 21:25:43 EDT 2016


Just checked out your website... is there ever any Pantera shindigs at 
Whitehorse ranch in Landers?
Would probably be a fun trip

On 7/1/2016 6:11 PM, Peter Menyhart wrote:
>     You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks
>     detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck?
>     check out our website at:   [1]www.whitehorseranch.com
>     Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000
>     To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound at hotmail.com
>     CC: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; knottsj at galstar.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
>     From: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Terry,
>     Is there a web site out there with tools for this?  What would make it valuab
> le would be if it is searchable.  For example, being able to search for cooling
> system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc.
>      After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding
>   creating a web site where others can post content.  Ideally, it would not requi
> re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con
> tent removes liability for copyright infringement.  I do however think it would
> be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp
> le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo.  When a claim like that i
> s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia
> l.
> Ken
>
>        From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>   To: James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>; Ken
>   Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at serv
> er.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
>
>   Easy 'nuf to do
> Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com> wr
> ote:
>
> I like that idea !
>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000
> To: coreyjprice at gmail.com; lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> CC: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; knottsj at galstar.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
> From: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>
> Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p
> roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA?
> Ken
>
>        From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>   To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry
>   Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>   Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
>
> Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens...
> I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed
>   bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don
> 't know where exactly the money will be coming from.  Maybe I should start a cha
> rity! ;)
>
> Corey
>
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   OK, here's my take on NPC!
>>
>>   We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such
>>   great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their
>>   private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I
>>   don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell
>>   us fascinating things.
>>
>>   (Mike flies humongous jets.  The guy posted this week about his home
>>   with the landing strip.  Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches.  All of the
>>   SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land.  Michael Shortt has
>>   such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up.  Terry taking
>>   us to Mars.  And, what other car club has such a high percent of
>>   members who can take their car completely apart and put it back
>>   together!  And, on and on and on and on....)    ---BILL Lewis
>>     __________________________________________________________________
>>
>>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>   Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>>   Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM
>>   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
>>
>>   Terry,
>>   Thanks for the info.  I ordered the aluminum faced insulation.
>>   By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning.  We just call it the
>>   Donut shop locally.
>>   Thanks again,
>>   jerry knotts
>>>   On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:
>>>     Delete Delete.  If not a spacenut.
>>>     First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy.  They
>>   keep
>>>     me far away from the hardware if they can.  ;-)
>>>     Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this
>>   weekend.
>>>     This was what I could glean from the NASA
>>>     websites.
>>>     This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers
>>   of
>>>     dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers.
>>>     This cuts down on heat transfer between layers.  Since this is
>>   only for
>>>     show, mine is not gold, but most are.
>>>     The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured
>>   in
>>>     ounces.  Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil
>>>     is used primarily as radiation shield.  It's more about
>>   reflection and
>>>     you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the
>>>     protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the
>>>     radiation is extreme.  Plus gold does not corrode.
>>>     It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than
>>   it's
>>>     cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum.
>>>     Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin
>>   layer of
>>>     gold.  Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina
>>>     equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones.
>>   If
>>>     you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you
>>>     to turn away.  But with intense IR you would not realize your
>>   eyes are
>>>     being burned.  Do you still want to go to Mars?  Hmmm?
>>>     For those interested in Juno this 4th of July;
>>>     [1][2]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html
>>>     [2][3]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552
>>>     [3][4]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
>>>
>>>     [cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]
>>>
>>>     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>>>
>>>     stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>>>
>>>     Terry W. Himes
>>>
>>>     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>>
>>>     Dawn Spacecraft Team
>>>
>>>     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>>>
>>>     Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>>
>>>     Cell:    (818) 653-8213
>>>
>>>     Fax:    (818) 393-3147
>>>
>>>     [4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>
>>>     From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>     Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM
>>>     To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift'
>>>     <[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'
>>   <[8]thedrol at pobox.com>,
>>>     "[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>>>     <[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
>>>
>>>     I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office.
>>   It has
>>>     20 layers.
>>>
>>>     But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for
>>   Dawn.
>>>     Plus we have Juno JOI
>>>     this weekend.  Crazy stuff happening all weekend.
>>>     [11][5]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
>>>     Get back to you later...
>>>
>>>     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>>>
>>>     stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>>>
>>>     Terry W. Himes
>>>
>>>     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>>
>>>     Dawn Spacecraft Team
>>>
>>>     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>>>
>>>     Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>>
>>>     Cell:    (818) 653-8213
>>>
>>>     Fax:    (818) 393-3147
>>>
>>>     [12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>
>>>     From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>>   behalf
>>>     of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>>     Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM
>>>     To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'
>>>     <[16]thedrol at pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>>>     <[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
>>>     I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
>>   the
>>>     gold
>>>     color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color
>>   faced
>>>     insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft.
>>>     Let's see if Terry knows about this.
>>>     Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: DeTomaso
>>   [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>>     Behalf
>>>     Of Julian Kift
>>>     Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM
>>>     To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
>>>     I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate.
>>>     Julian
>>>     ________________________________
>>>     From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>>   behalf
>>>     of Paul
>>>     Timko <[22]thedrol at pobox.com>
>>>     Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM
>>>     To: [23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
>>>     This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
>>   bodywork.
>>>     Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...
>>   [24][6]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER
>>>     Paul
>>>     #9270
>>>     On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
>>>
>>>     71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
>>>
>>>     After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was
>>   leaking
>>>     oil.  A small amount on the input (pressure) side.  A quick
>>   tightening
>>>     and it was fine.  I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck
>>>     directly
>>>
>>>     above the turbo.  There is about 2 inches clearance about the
>>   turbos
>>>     but
>>>
>>>     the deck was really hot to the touch.
>>>
>>>     Question.  I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a
>>   sheet
>>>     or
>>>
>>>     thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo.  I
>>   have
>>>     some
>>>
>>>     chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the
>>   turbos but
>>>     would like the real protection of an insulator.
>>>
>>>     Thanks in advance to the "collective",
>>>
>>>     jerry knotts
>>>
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>>   [1][10]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html
>>   [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg]
>>   [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ...
>>   [11]http://www.voanews.com/
>>   PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno
>>   is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter
>>   polar orbit and start ...
>>>     2. [4][12]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552
>>>     3. [5][13]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
>>>     4. [6]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>     5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>     6. [8]mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>>>     7. [9]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>>     8. [10]mailto:thedrol at pobox.com
>>>     9. [11]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   10. [12]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   11. [13][14]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
>>>   12. [14]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>   13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   14. [16]mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>>>   15. [17]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>>   16. [18]mailto:thedrol at pobox.com
>>>   17. [19]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   18. [20]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   20. [22]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   22. [24]mailto:thedrol at pobox.com
>>>   23. [25]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   24.
>>   [26][15]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER
>>>   25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   26. [28][16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>   27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   28. [30][17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>   29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   30. [32][18]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>>
>>>
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>     4. http://eyes.nasa.gov/
>     5. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
>     6. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER
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>    13. http://eyes.nasa.gov/
>    14. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
>    15. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER
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   Just checked out your website... is there ever any Pantera shindigs at
   Whitehorse ranch in Landers?
   Would probably be a fun trip

   On 7/1/2016 6:11 PM, Peter Menyhart wrote:

   You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks
   detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck?
   check out our website at:   [1]www.whitehorseranch.com
   Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000
   To: [1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; [2]tecnosound at hotmail.com
   CC: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [4]knottsj at galstar.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
   From: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Terry,
   Is there a web site out there with tools for this?  What would make it valuab
le would be if it is searchable.  For example, being able to search for cooling
system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc.
    After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding
 creating a web site where others can post content.  Ideally, it would not requi
re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con
tent removes liability for copyright infringement.  I do however think it would
be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp
le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo.  When a claim like that i
s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia
l.
Ken

      From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" [6]<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
 To: James coyne [7]<tecnosound at hotmail.com>
Cc: Jerry Knotts [8]<knottsj at galstar.com>; Corey Price [9]<coreyjprice at gmail.com
>; Ken
 Green [10]<kenn_green at yahoo.com>; [11]"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" [12]<d
etomaso at serv
er.detomasolist.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

 Easy 'nuf to do
Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne [13]<tecnosound at hotmail.com
> wr
ote:

I like that idea !

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000
To: [14]coreyjprice at gmail.com; [15]lotus0005 at hotmail.com
CC: [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [17]knottsj at galstar.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
From: [18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p
roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA?
Ken

      From: Corey Price [19]<coreyjprice at gmail.com>
 To: Bill Lewis [20]<lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Cc: [21]"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" [22]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>; Jerry
 Knotts [23]<knottsj at galstar.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens...
I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed
 bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don
't know where exactly the money will be coming from.  Maybe I should start a cha
rity! ;)

Corey


On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis [24]<lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:

 OK, here's my take on NPC!

 We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such
 great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their
 private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I
 don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell
 us fascinating things.

 (Mike flies humongous jets.  The guy posted this week about his home
 with the landing strip.  Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches.  All of the
 SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land.  Michael Shortt has
 such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up.  Terry taking
 us to Mars.  And, what other car club has such a high percent of
 members who can take their car completely apart and put it back
 together!  And, on and on and on and on....)    ---BILL Lewis
   __________________________________________________________________

 From: DeTomaso [25]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
 Jerry Knotts [26]<knottsj at galstar.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM
 To: [27]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

 Terry,
 Thanks for the info.  I ordered the aluminum faced insulation.
 By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning.  We just call it the
 Donut shop locally.
 Thanks again,
 jerry knotts

 On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:
   Delete Delete.  If not a spacenut.
   First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy.  They

 keep

   me far away from the hardware if they can.  ;-)
   Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this

 weekend.

   This was what I could glean from the NASA
   websites.
   This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers

 of

   dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers.
   This cuts down on heat transfer between layers.  Since this is

 only for

   show, mine is not gold, but most are.
   The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured

 in

   ounces.  Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil
   is used primarily as radiation shield.  It's more about

 reflection and

   you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the
   protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the
   radiation is extreme.  Plus gold does not corrode.
   It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than

 it's

   cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum.
   Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin

 layer of

   gold.  Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina
   equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones.

 If

   you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you
   to turn away.  But with intense IR you would not realize your

 eyes are

   being burned.  Do you still want to go to Mars?  Hmmm?
   For those interested in Juno this 4th of July;
   [1][2][28]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html
   [2][3][29]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552
   [3][4][30]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

   [[31]cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:    (818) 653-8213

   Fax:    (818) 393-3147

   [[32]4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Terry Himes [33]<[5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM
   To: Larry - Ohio Time [34]<[6]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift'
   [35]<[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'

 [36]<[8]thedrol at pobox.com>,

   [37]"[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   [38]<[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

   I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office.

 It has

   20 layers.

   But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for

 Dawn.

   Plus we have Juno JOI
   this weekend.  Crazy stuff happening all weekend.
   [11][5][39]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
   Get back to you later...

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:    (818) 653-8213

   Fax:    (818) 393-3147

   [[40]12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso [41]<[13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on

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   of Larry - Ohio Time [42]<[14]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift' [43]<[15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'
   [44]<[16]thedrol at pobox.com>, [45]"[17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   [46]<[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
   I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that

 the

   gold
   color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color

 faced

   insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft.
   Let's see if Terry knows about this.
   Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso

 [[19][47]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On

   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM
   To: Paul Timko; [[48]20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
   I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate.
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso [49]<[21]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on

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   of Paul
   Timko [50]<[22]thedrol at pobox.com>
   Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM
   To: [[51]23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
   This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their

 bodywork.

   Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...

 [24][6][52]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER

   Paul
   #9270
   On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

   71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

   After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was

 leaking

   oil.  A small amount on the input (pressure) side.  A quick

 tightening

   and it was fine.  I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck
   directly

   above the turbo.  There is about 2 inches clearance about the

 turbos

   but

   the deck was really hot to the touch.

   Question.  I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a

 sheet

   or

   thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo.  I

 have

   some

   chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the

 turbos but

   would like the real protection of an insulator.

   Thanks in advance to the "collective",

   jerry knotts

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