[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 139, Issue 20
tom ware
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Sun Jan 17 14:11:12 EST 2016
I'm not expert but have mine sitting on the floor and it doesn't look like it would bolt up to this bell!
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> 1. Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay (Ken Green)
> 2. Re: Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay (L GRAY)
> 3. Re: Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay (Jeff Detrich)
> 4. Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust (Pantdino)
> 5. Re: Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust (Ken Green)
> 6. NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%& together?
> (Brent Stewart)
> 7. Re: Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust (Charles McCall)
> 8. Re: Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay (Mike Drew)
> 9. Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland (jderyke at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland (B Hower)
> 11. Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland (Mike Drew)
> 12. Re: NPC: short automotive bad prose (Rob Dumoulin)
> 13. Re: NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%& together?
> (Rob Dumoulin)
> 14. Re: NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%& together?
> (Mike Thomas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay
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> This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
> FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM RACING PANTERA
> | ? |
> | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
> | FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts |
> | |
> | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo |
> | |
> | ? |
>
>
> I didn't think? a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing.? I don't see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the bottom corners doesn't seem to have a purpose?? The 4 holes for bolting to the ZF seem to be too close to the edge??
> It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
> Ken
> -------------- next part --------------
> This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
> [1]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM RACING
> PANTERA
>
>
> [2]image
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [3]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...
> US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts
> [4]View on www.ebay.com
> Preview by Yahoo
>
> I didn't think a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing. I don't
> see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the bottom
> corners doesn't seem to have a purpose? The 4 holes for bolting to the
> ZF seem to be too close to the edge?
> It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:26:19 +0000
> From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: POCA email Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay
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> It is an unfinished custom cast bell housing for a GT 40.
>
> Leslie A. Gray
>
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
>> [1]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM RACING
>> PANTERA
>>
>>
>> [2]image
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [3]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...
>> US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts
>> [4]View on www.ebay.com
>> Preview by Yahoo
>>
>> I didn't think a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing. I don't
>> see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the bottom
>> corners doesn't seem to have a purpose? The 4 holes for bolting to the
>> ZF seem to be too close to the edge?
>> It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
>> Ken
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:41:46 -0600
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, POCA email Forum
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay
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> Looks like it will take a lot of milling at the bottom.
>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:26 PM, L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is an unfinished custom cast bell housing for a GT 40.
>>
>> Leslie A. Gray
>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
>>> [1]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM RACING
>>> PANTERA
>>>
>>>
>>> [2]image
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [3]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...
>>> US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts
>>> [4]View on www.ebay.com
>>> Preview by Yahoo
>>>
>>> I didn't think a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing. I don't
>>> see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the bottom
>>> corners doesn't seem to have a purpose? The 4 holes for bolting to the
>>> ZF seem to be too close to the edge?
>>> It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 2.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 3.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 4.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Looks like it will take a lot of milling at the bottom.
>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:26 PM, L GRAY <[1]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>
> It is an unfinished custom cast bell housing for a GT 40.
> Leslie A. Gray
>
>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> A A This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
>> A A [1]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM
> RACING
>> A A PANTERA
>>
>>
>> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A [2]image
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A A [3]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...
>> A A US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck
> Parts
>> A A [4]View on [3]www.ebay.com
>> A A Preview by Yahoo
>>
>> A A I didn't thinkA a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing.A I
> don't
>> A A see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the
> bottom
>> A A corners doesn't seem to have a purpose?A The 4 holes for bolting
> to the
>> A A ZF seem to be too close to the edge?
>> A A It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
>> A A Ken
>>
>> References
>>
>> A A 1.
> [4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BEL
> LHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> A A 2.
> [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BEL
> LHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> A A 3.
> [6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BEL
> LHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>> A A 4.
> [7]http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BEL
> LHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>
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> References
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> 1. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 3. http://www.ebay.com/
> 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 7. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
> 8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:43:37 -0500
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
> Message-ID: <1524c2dd1e0-5b95-fd8a at webprd-m35.mail.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>
> Anyone know what this exhaust system could be? Single outlet, if it is a Ford V8 it sounds higher pitched and higher revving than usual. Personally I like the deeper pitch better.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
> Jim
> -------------- next part --------------
> Anyone know what this exhaust system could be? Single outlet, if it is
> a Ford V8 it sounds higher pitched and higher revving than usual.
> Personally I like the deeper pitch better.
>
>
>
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:01:31 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> 180 degree headers?? I think some folks have even done 360 (all 8 tubes merged) headers?
>
>
> From: Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:43 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
>
> ? Anyone know what this exhaust system could be?? Single outlet, if it is
> ? a Ford V8 it sounds higher pitched and higher revving than usual.
> ? Personally I like the deeper pitch better.
>
>
>
> ? [1]http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
>
>
> ? Jim
>
> References
>
> ? 1. http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> 180 degree headers? I think some folks have even done 360 (all 8 tubes
> merged) headers?
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> From: Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:43 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
> Anyone know what this exhaust system could be? Single outlet, if it
> is
> a Ford V8 it sounds higher pitched and higher revving than usual.
> Personally I like the deeper pitch better.
> [1][1]http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
> Jim
> References
> 1. [2]http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:04:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> To: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%&
> together?
> Message-ID:
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> Now this looks like a nice ride!
> http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-info-news
>
> Almost makes me want to buy American! ?:-)
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Now this looks like a nice ride!
> [1]http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-inf
> o-news
> Almost makes me want to buy American! :-)
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-info-news
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:05:10 +0100
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: "'Pantdino'" <pantdino at aol.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
> Message-ID: <062e01d150a1$96a33490$c3e99db0$@gmail.com>
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> It's hard to tell but it looks somewhat like the ex-George Gordon Smith Mangusta, which was the ex-Freddy Moss racecar. The Moss car had a radical 560-hp engine with 180 degree exhaust, and George detuned it to a more reasonable 480 or so.
>
> If this is the same car, then it has a 180 degree exhaust. I have pix somewhere...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Pantdino via DeTomaso
> Sent: s?bado, 16 de enero de 2016 21:44
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta racer with unusual sounding exhaust
>
>
> Anyone know what this exhaust system could be? Single outlet, if it is a Ford V8 it sounds higher pitched and higher revving than usual. Personally I like the deeper pitch better.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hkwrbbv
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:00:21 -0600
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, POCA email Forum
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd ball ZF bell housing on ebay
> Message-ID: <F9986E0B-DE77-4A59-A547-8D16BF5F386A at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> ...and as an original raw casting, it's set up and sized for an original GT40 gearbox. A dash 1 will fit, a dash 2 won't....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 14:26, L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is an unfinished custom cast bell housing for a GT 40.
>>
>> Leslie A. Gray
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This just doesn't look right (or even finished):
>>> [1]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BELLHOUSING ALUMINUM RACING
>>> PANTERA
>>>
>>>
>>> [2]image
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [3]FORD 289 302 BLOCK TO A-Z.F TRANSMISSION BE...
>>> US $299.99 New in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts
>>> [4]View on www.ebay.com
>>> Preview by Yahoo
>>>
>>> I didn't think a 302 or 289 uses a different bell housing. I don't
>>> see threaded holes for starter studs, and the thick metal on the bottom
>>> corners doesn't seem to have a purpose? The 4 holes for bolting to the
>>> ZF seem to be too close to the edge?
>>> It looks like a prototype that didn't go anywhere?
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
>>> 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-289-302-BLOCK-TO-A-Z-F-TRANSMISSION-BELLHOUSING-ALUMINUM-RACING-PANTERA-/351631495738
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:53:58 -0500
> From: jderyke at aol.com
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, garth_rodericks at yahoo.com, MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
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> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3" and 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> FWIW- J DeRyke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>
> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100 sq
> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter filter.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> have
> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> window.
> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> success.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Garth,
> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> or
> the Pantera version?
> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ones
> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> <[1][4]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> Holley
> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> does
> NOT fit under the stock screen.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> --- Original Message ---
> Dan,
> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the blue
> thunder w
> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
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> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
> (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3" and
> 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
> terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
> numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> FWIW- J DeRyke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
> <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100 sq
> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter filter.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> have
> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> window.
> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> success.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <[1][4]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Garth,
> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> or
> the Pantera version?
> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ones
> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> <[1][4][7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> Holley
> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> does
> NOT fit under the stock screen.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> --- Original Message ---
> Dan,
> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the blue
> thunder w
> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> References
> 1. [8]mailto:[5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:03:33 +0000 (UTC)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>, "kenn_green at yahoo.com"
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> Jack,
> Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor linkage??
> ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
>
>
> From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; garth_rodericks at yahoo.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>
> ? Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
> ? (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3" and
> ? 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
> ? terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
> ? numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> ? FWIW- J DeRyke
>
> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> ? To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
> ? <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> ? Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> ? Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
> ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> ? On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> ? and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100 sq
> ? in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter filter.
> ? Ken
> ? __________________________________________________________________
> ? From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
> ? To: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> ? Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> ? Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
> ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> ? I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> ? (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> ? have
> ? an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> ? window.
> ? The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> ? "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> ? success.
> ? Cheers!
> ? Garth
> ? __________________________________________________________________
> ? From: Mike Drew <[1][4]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> ? To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> ? Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6]detomaso at poca.com>
> ? Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
> ? Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> ? Garth,
> ? WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> ? or
> ? the Pantera version?
> ? I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> ? screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ? ones
> ? my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> ? with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> ? Mike
> ? Sent from my iPhone
> ? On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> ? <[1][4][7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ? Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> ? I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> ? Holley
> ? 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> ? does
> ? NOT fit under the stock screen.
> ? Cheers!
> ? Garth
> ? --- Original Message ---
> ? Dan,
> ? Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the blue
> ? thunder w
> ? as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> ? Mike
> ? Sent from my iPad
> ? References
> ? 1. [8]mailto:[5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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> Jack,
> Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor
> linkage?
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; garth_rodericks at yahoo.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
> (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3"
> and
> 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
> terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
> numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> FWIW- J DeRyke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
> <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100
> sq
> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter
> filter.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1][5]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Mike Drew <[2][6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][7]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> have
> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> window.
> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> success.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <[1][4][8]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5][9]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6][10]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Garth,
> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> or
> the Pantera version?
> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ones
> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> <[1][4][7][11]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> Holley
> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> does
> NOT fit under the stock screen.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> --- Original Message ---
> Dan,
> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the
> blue
> thunder w
> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> References
> 1. [8]mailto:[5][12]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:12:08 -0600
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>, "kenn_green at yahoo.com"
> <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "garth_rodericks at yahoo.com"
> <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Message-ID: <8415C109-E395-4081-B583-3DDCED7FC4BE at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Too, there is only so much you can achieve with a drop base. The lid of the filter has to not be resting on the mouth of the carb. :) so a drop base allows a taller filter with a given amount of carb-to-lid clearance. But if your carb is too high, your air cleaner base could be sitting on the ground and it still wouldn't work with the stock screen.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 17:03, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jack,
>>
>> Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor linkage?
>>
>> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; garth_rodericks at yahoo.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>>
>> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
>> (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3" and
>> 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
>> terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
>> numbers. Maybe I missed them?
>> FWIW- J DeRyke
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
>> <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
>> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100 sq
>> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter filter.
>> Ken
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
>> To: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
>> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
>> have
>> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
>> window.
>> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
>> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
>> success.
>> Cheers!
>> Garth
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: Mike Drew <[1][4]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6]detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
>> Garth,
>> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
>> or
>> the Pantera version?
>> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
>> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
>> ones
>> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
>> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
>> <[1][4][7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
>> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
>> Holley
>> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
>> does
>> NOT fit under the stock screen.
>> Cheers!
>> Garth
>> --- Original Message ---
>> Dan,
>> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the blue
>> thunder w
>> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPad
>> References
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> Too, there is only so much you can achieve with a drop base. The lid of
> the filter has to not be resting on the mouth of the carb. :) so a
> drop base allows a taller filter with a given amount of carb-to-lid
> clearance. But if your carb is too high, your air cleaner base could be
> sitting on the ground and it still wouldn't work with the stock
> screen.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 17:03, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Jack,
> Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor
> linkage?
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: [3]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [4]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com;
> [5]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
> (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3"
> and
> 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
> terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
> numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> FWIW- J DeRyke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[8]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
> <[9]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100
> sq
> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter
> filter.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1][11]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Mike Drew <[2][12]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][13]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> have
> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> window.
> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> success.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <[1][4][14]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5][15]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6][16]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
> Garth,
> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> or
> the Pantera version?
> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ones
> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> <[1][4][7][17]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> Holley
> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> does
> NOT fit under the stock screen.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> --- Original Message ---
> Dan,
> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the
> blue
> thunder w
> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> References
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:32:43 -0500
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: short automotive bad prose
> Message-ID:
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> Uh, tune up? Blue smoke? I remember when DDT was a good thing.
>> On Jan 16, 2016 1:11 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just found this on the Bulwer-Lytton bad
>> writing website for winners of the 2015 competition for the worst
>> opening sentence for a fictional novel. Warning: NPC
>>
>>
>>
>> " Long overdue for a tune-up, the ancient and
>> dilapidated 1956 Oldsmobile -- with PowerGlide transmission and power
>> steering -- wheezed slowly into the gas station, the long, blue plumes
>> of exhaust looking like a crop duster full of illegal DDT spraying a
>> field of asphalt."
>>
>>
>> -- Ed Buhrer, Louisa, VA
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest literary regards, Chuck Engles
>>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Uh, tune up? Blue smoke? I remember when DDT was a good thing.
>
> On Jan 16, 2016 1:11 PM, "Charles Engles" <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> A A Dear Forum,
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A I just found this on the
> Bulwer-Lytton bad
> A A writing website for winners of the 2015 competition for the
> worst
> A A opening sentence for a fictional novel.A A Warning: NPC
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A " Long overdue for a tune-up,
> the ancient and
> A A dilapidated 1956 Oldsmobile -- with PowerGlide transmission and
> power
> A A steering -- wheezed slowly into the gas station, the long, blue
> plumes
> A A of exhaust looking like a crop duster full of illegal DDT
> spraying a
> A A field of asphalt."
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
> A -- Ed Buhrer, Louisa, VA
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest literary
> regards,A Chuck Engles
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:40:16 -0500
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%&
> together?
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Looks promising. Let's see what actually makes it to production. Could the
> U.S. market support such a thing if the trimmings and performance put it at
> the 60k range?
> On Jan 16, 2016 4:05 PM, "Brent Stewart via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Now this looks like a nice ride!
>> [1]http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-inf
>> o-news
>> Almost makes me want to buy American! :-)
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1.
>> http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-info-news
>>
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> Looks promising. Let's see what actually makes it to production. Could
> the U.S. market support such a thing if the trimmings and performance
> put it at the 60k range?
>
> On Jan 16, 2016 4:05 PM, "Brent Stewart via DeTomaso"
> <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A A Now this looks like a nice ride!
> A
> A [1][2]http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos
> -and-inf
> A A o-news
> A A Almost makes me want to buy American!A :-)
> References
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> info-news
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 08:30:57 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>, "'Brent Stewart'"
> <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'Pantera List'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%&
> together?
> Message-ID: <01c701d15144$71d75b20$55861160$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Likely it will be heavily marketed to the Chinese, despite their current economic woes. Buicks have great cache over there.
>
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:40 PM
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Buick - America finally getting its $%& together?
>
> Looks promising. Let's see what actually makes it to production. Could the U.S. market support such a thing if the trimmings and performance put it at the 60k range?
> On Jan 16, 2016 4:05 PM, "Brent Stewart via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com>
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>> Now this looks like a nice ride!
>> [1]http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-inf
>> o-news
>> Almost makes me want to buy American! :-)
>>
>> References
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>> 1.
>> http://www.caranddriver.com/news/buick-avista-concept-photos-and-info-
>> news
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