[DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sat Jan 16 18:12:08 EST 2016
Too, there is only so much you can achieve with a drop base. The lid of the filter has to not be resting on the mouth of the carb. :) so a drop base allows a taller filter with a given amount of carb-to-lid clearance. But if your carb is too high, your air cleaner base could be sitting on the ground and it still wouldn't work with the stock screen.
Cheers!
Mike
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On Jan 16, 2016, at 17:03, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jack,
>
> Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor linkage?
>
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> Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
> (maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3" and
> 4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
> terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
> numbers. Maybe I missed them?
> FWIW- J DeRyke
>
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> On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
> and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100 sq
> in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter filter.
> Ken
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> I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
> (angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
> have
> an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
> window.
> The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
> "Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
> success.
> Cheers!
> Garth
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> Garth,
> WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
> or
> the Pantera version?
> I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
> screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
> ones
> my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
> with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
> <[1][4][7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, no it DOES NOT.
> I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
> Holley
> 670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
> does
> NOT fit under the stock screen.
> Cheers!
> Garth
> --- Original Message ---
> Dan,
> Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the blue
> thunder w
> as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
> Mike
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Too, there is only so much you can achieve with a drop base. The lid of
the filter has to not be resting on the mouth of the carb. :) so a
drop base allows a taller filter with a given amount of carb-to-lid
clearance. But if your carb is too high, your air cleaner base could be
sitting on the ground and it still wouldn't work with the stock
screen.
Cheers!
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 16, 2016, at 17:03, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Jack,
Doesn't the greater drop of the base start to interfere with carburetor
linkage?
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
__________________________________________________________________
From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
To: [3]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [4]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com;
[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com
Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
Available now: drop-base air cleaners in 1", 2" and 2-1/2" base-drops
(maybe others too). And commonly avail. 14" dia elements are 2", 3"
and
4" thick. So saying 'drop-base air cleaner' means close to nothing in
terms of the height of the assembly top without the accompanying
numbers. Maybe I missed them?
FWIW- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
To: Garth Rodericks <[8]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Mike Drew
<[9]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
On the K&N filter web site there are suggestions on air filter area,
and it looks like they think we need a lot bigger filters, like 100
sq
in? That would be about 5 inches high a for a 14 inch diameter
filter.
Ken
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From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1][11]detomaso at poca.com>
To: Mike Drew <[2][12]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][13]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
I believe I have the standard Mustang version of the Blue Thunder
(angled carb pad). I'll double check tonight. Also, I believe I
have
an earlier engine screen (it's all screen and slopes down at the
window.
The air filter is a Hall drop base air filter with the cast aluminum
"Pantera" script lid. I did try a stamped lid as well without
success.
Cheers!
Garth
__________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Drew <[1][4][14]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Garth Rodericks <[2][5][15]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[3][6][16]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Best stroker kit for a Cleveland
Garth,
WHICH Blue Thunder intake do you have? The standard Mustang version
or
the Pantera version?
I had to change to a different air cleaner to get it to fit under my
screen when I put new rubber engine mount donuts in. With the old
ones
my existing Hall/K&N fit fine. I had to get a different, thinner lid
with the new mounts as it raised the engine a tiny bit....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:57, Garth Rodericks
<[1][4][7][17]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
Uh, no it DOES NOT.
I have a Blue Thunder intake on my Pantera at the moment with a
Holley
670 Avenger carb and NO carb spacer, and the drop base air cleaner
does
NOT fit under the stock screen.
Cheers!
Garth
--- Original Message ---
Dan,
Excellent write up, but you forgot that of the intakes tested the
blue
thunder w
as among the best, and it DOES fit under the stock screen....
Mike
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