[DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Sat Jan 9 12:15:58 EST 2016
Excellent article.
I thought the best line was;
"The space program was even worse. Those rockets used a lot of public money that
could be better spent on bombing Vietnam." (Iraq, Syria, etc)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of Kirby Schrader <kirbyschrader at mac.com<mailto:kirbyschrader at mac.com>>
Date: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:54 PM
To: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com<mailto:kszwab at gmail.com>>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
Konrad,
You reminded me….
I read an article recently that nailed the Russian approach to flying very well.
It’s ‘web related’, but I find it is applicable to many an engineering project today.
http://idlewords.com/talks/web_design_first_100_years.htm <http://idlewords.com/talks/web_design_first_100_years.htm>
The best part of the article is "add engines until airborne".
I hope you enjoy it.
FWIW,
Kirby
On Jan 8, 2016, at 08:38, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com<mailto:kszwab at gmail.com>> wrote:
I might use the "Schrader approach". I hate those designs, especially
the one in my '92 convertible Firebird.
Simple failure: car sat for 1 year, electric fuel pump died. Of course,
it is inside the tank, in order to replace it one must drop the tank,
which means dropping/cutting the exhaust and dropping a bit the
differential.
Soviet military approach will be used like on the case of the other
Firebirds affected by this problem (87, 88, 90): cut foldable access
hole in the trunk, cut metal fuel lines and splice them with fuel hoses
so that the fuel pump can be replaced within half an hour on subsequent
future failures (since Chinese components are SOOO good). Supposedly
this approach is used in Toyota's (designed properly from the beginning
and not to rip off the customer in the long run). But then I do not
like Jap cars because of the shape and political reasons...
Hmmm. How difficult is to cut the firewall and how does one reinforce
it back in order to protect from a potential future explosion ? Does
anyone make a different gas tank that has a shape that allows removal
without engine removal first ?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader
<[1]kirbyschrader at mac.com<mailto:kirbyschrader at mac.com>> wrote:
Oh my....
The 'Schrader approach'?
Sent from my iPhone 6+
On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, [2]cengles at cox.net<mailto:cengles at cox.net> wrote:
Dear Owen,
A A A A A A A A Yes, you must remove the drive train unless
you care to use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall
behind the driver's seat to remove the gas tank from the front.....
A A A A A A A A Bad news with the standard approach: You
have to remove the drive train
A A A A A A A A Good news with the standard approach: the
gas tank removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
you'll have access to that nook and cranny
you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
rustproofing and other modifications
you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing
and modifications including rebuilding
you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
Hello Pantera guys
I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i
am concerned about the gas tank
i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as
this is the onlyA piece of the car not reworked by me
i am also concerned baout the tank itself
what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine
in place
or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
your advice would be appreciated
best regards owen cooke dublin
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A A 4. More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re:A Anti
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <[13]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>>
To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <[14]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'" <[15]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
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<< criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
Is that even possible??
Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:[16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Himes, Terry (397C)
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
He should just give the narration and someone else could write
it? Called collaboration.
Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several books.
Also collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.A Highly
criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction.
I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 childrenA (or is
it married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)A All boys.
Working with him is a hoot.A A 2 beer story.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
A A to contact us!"
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Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:40 AM
To: 'Michael Shortt'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent
released deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express
the desire for a book not documenting the people that are
responsible for the Pantera, but could a book be about the
development of the Pantera detailing the work of those people, more
of an technical/engineering/design documentation.
Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and how
much he enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the only
one that could write a book that would be of a highly technical
aspect would be T Tjaarda.A If he would undertake such a task, I
would hope he could gather the recollection of the engineers he
worked with.
I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item?
would I want personalized by Tjaarda.A I would think a reproduction
of one of the construction drawings during the design would be my
most lusted after.
Could POCA ask if he would?
Joe in NC/5177
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
Good Morning,
Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge at
the 2016 Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit on
Saturday and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and attend
the Speed Classic races as my guest.
I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we are
limited to 12.
I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa, GTS,
Pre L, L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race
car.
The concours dates are November 5 and 6
the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also have an
opportunity for a sprint race each day.
additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat 124
and MB Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct 29th
during the speed classic,A I will be extending this offer to all
Detomaso owners as well.
Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for free
that day.
Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do, when
the new website is up, we will post a registration area.
If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send info
and lots of photos to me.
Michael Shortt
President
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David
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A A A Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the
330GTC, it
A A A featured pop up driving lights. That must have been
bugly!
A A A Cheers,
A A A David
A A A Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
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A A A Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the
circles are for?
A A A They are cutouts for something.
A A A Jeff
A A A 6559
A A A <image.png>
A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David
<[2][40]adin at frontier.net<mailto:adin at frontier.net><mailto:[41]adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
A A A A Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom
for a quiet hour
A A A A and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
A A A
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From: scott black <[61]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com<mailto:timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>>
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? Worked fine for me.
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A A Thanks,
A A Scott Black
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Acceleration
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A A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
A A <[112]michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A A yes, on posted minutes
A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][1][113]bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
A A A wrote:
A A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
A A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[2][2][114]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
A A Ray
A A A Pascarella
A A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
A A A To: L GRAY <[3][3][115]tipo874a at msn.com<mailto:tipo874a at msn.com>>
A A A Cc: [4][4][116]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
A A A Worked fine for me.
A A A Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
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I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
A A service"
AA AA A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
A A A get this
A A A recording?
Leslie A. Gray
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
From: Michael Shortt <[190]michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
To: scott black <[191]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com<mailto:timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>>
Cc: Bill Moore <[192]bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>,
"[193]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>"
A A <[194]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>,A A L GRAY
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
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I sent it to the forum Scott,
there are no secrets any more.
I will be keeping the membership informed.
Michael Shortt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black
<[197]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com<mailto:timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been
on the board
for a few years.
Thanks,
Scott Black
TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
[198]www.tprm-usa.com
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
[199]michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A yes, on posted minutes
A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][200]bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
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A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][201]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
On Behalf Of Ray
A A Pascarella
A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
A A To: L GRAY <[3][202]tipo874a at msn.com<mailto:tipo874a at msn.com>>
A A Cc: [4][203]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
A A Worked fine for me.
A A Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][204]tipo874a at msn.com<mailto:tipo874a at msn.com>>
wrote:
I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
service"
AA AA A Checked info two times with same
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A A get this
A A recording?
Leslie A. Gray
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Excellent article.
I thought the best line was;
"The space program was even worse. Those rockets used a lot of public
money that
could be better spent on bombing Vietnam." (Iraq, Syria, etc)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Kirby
Schrader <[3]kirbyschrader at mac.com>
Date: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:54 PM
To: Konrad Szwab <[4]kszwab at gmail.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
Konrad,
You reminded me....
I read an article recently that nailed the Russian approach to flying
very well.
It's `web related', but I find it is applicable to many an engineering
project today.
[6]http://idlewords.com/talks/web_design_first_100_years.htm
<[7]http://idlewords.com/talks/web_design_first_100_years.htm>
The best part of the article is "add engines until airborne".
I hope you enjoy it.
FWIW,
Kirby
On Jan 8, 2016, at 08:38, Konrad Szwab <[8]kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
I might use the "Schrader approach". I hate those designs,
especially
the one in my '92 convertible Firebird.
Simple failure: car sat for 1 year, electric fuel pump died. Of
course,
it is inside the tank, in order to replace it one must drop the
tank,
which means dropping/cutting the exhaust and dropping a bit the
differential.
Soviet military approach will be used like on the case of the other
Firebirds affected by this problem (87, 88, 90): cut foldable access
hole in the trunk, cut metal fuel lines and splice them with fuel
hoses
so that the fuel pump can be replaced within half an hour on
subsequent
future failures (since Chinese components are SOOO good). Supposedly
this approach is used in Toyota's (designed properly from the
beginning
and not to rip off the customer in the long run). But then I do not
like Jap cars because of the shape and political reasons...
Hmmm. How difficult is to cut the firewall and how does one
reinforce
it back in order to protect from a potential future explosion ? Does
anyone make a different gas tank that has a shape that allows
removal
without engine removal first ?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader
<[1][9]kirbyschrader at mac.com> wrote:
Oh my....
The 'Schrader approach'?
Sent from my iPhone 6+
On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, [2][10]cengles at cox.net wrote:
Dear Owen,
A A A A A A A A Yes, you must remove the drive train unless
you care to use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall
behind the driver's seat to remove the gas tank from the
front.....
A A A A A A A A Bad news with the standard approach: You
have to remove the drive train
A A A A A A A A Good news with the standard approach: the
gas tank removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
you'll have access to that nook and cranny
you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
rustproofing and other modifications
you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing
and modifications including rebuilding
you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
Hello Pantera guys
I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i
am concerned about the gas tank
i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as
this is the onlyA piece of the car not reworked by me
i am also concerned baout the tank itself
what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine
in place
or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
your advice would be appreciated
best regards owen cooke dublin
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A A 3. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (Michael Shortt)
A A 4. More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re:A Anti
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A A 6. Re: Gray makes the grade! (Tomas Gunnarsson)
A A 7. 2016 Jan POCA BOD Meeting (Michael Shortt)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <[13][21]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <[14][22]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'" <[15][23]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
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<< criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
Is that even possible??
Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
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From: DeTomaso [[24]mailto:[16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Himes, Terry (397C)
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
Cc: [17][25]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
He should just give the narration and someone else could write
it? Called collaboration.
Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several books.
Also collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.A Highly
criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction.
I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 childrenA (or is
it married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)A All boys.
Working with him is a hoot.A A 2 beer story.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
A A to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: [18](818) 393-6261
Cell:A A A [19](818) 653-8213
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[21][26]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[27]mailto:[22]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??
From: DeTomaso
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.com>
on behalf of "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
<[25][30]byrdjf at embarqmail.com<[31]mailto:[26]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:40 AM
To: 'Michael Shortt'
<[27][32]michaelsavga at gmail.com<[33]mailto:[28]michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
Cc: "[29][34]detomaso at poca.com<[35]mailto:[30]detomaso at poca.com>"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent
released deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express
the desire for a book not documenting the people that are
responsible for the Pantera, but could a book be about the
development of the Pantera detailing the work of those people,
more
of an technical/engineering/design documentation.
Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and how
much he enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the
only
one that could write a book that would be of a highly technical
aspect would be T Tjaarda.A If he would undertake such a task, I
would hope he could gather the recollection of the engineers he
worked with.
I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item?
would I want personalized by Tjaarda.A I would think a
reproduction
of one of the construction drawings during the design would be my
most lusted after.
Could POCA ask if he would?
Joe in NC/5177
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[38]mailto:[33]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Shortt
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:17 AM
To: David; Jeff Cobb
Cc: [34][39]detomaso at poca.com<[40]mailto:[35]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
Good Morning,
Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge at
the 2016 Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit on
Saturday and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and attend
the Speed Classic races as my guest.
I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we are
limited to 12.
I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa, GTS,
Pre L, L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race
car.
The concours dates are November 5 and 6
the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also have an
opportunity for a sprint race each day.
additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat 124
and MB Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct
29th
during the speed classic,A I will be extending this offer to all
Detomaso owners as well.
Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for free
that day.
Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do, when
the new website is up, we will post a registration area.
If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send info
and lots of photos to me.
Michael Shortt
President
POCA
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David
<[36][41]adin at frontier.net<[42]mailto:[37]adin at frontier.net>>
wrote:
A A A Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the
330GTC, it
A A A featured pop up driving lights. That must have been
bugly!
A A A Cheers,
A A A David
A A A Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
A A A On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[1][38][43]jjdetrich at gmail.com<[44]mailto:[39]jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
A A A wrote:
A A A Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the
circles are for?
A A A They are cutouts for something.
A A A Jeff
A A A 6559
A A A <image.png>
A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David
<[2][40][45]adin at frontier.net<[46]mailto:[41]adin at frontier.net>>
wrote:
A A A A Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom
for a quiet hour
A A A A and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
A A A
A [3][42][47]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:56:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: scott black <[61][64]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
To: Michael Shortt <[62][65]michaelsavga at gmail.com>, Bill Moore
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Cc: "[64][67]detomaso at poca.com" <[65][68]detomaso at poca.com>, L GRAY
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
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the board for a few years.
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A A A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
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A A -------------- next part --------------
A A I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not
been on the
A A board for a few years.
A A Thanks,
A A Scott Black
A A TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing
Acceleration
A A [111]www.tprm-usa.com
A A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
A A <[112][108]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
A A A yes, on posted minutes
A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][1][113][109]bill at incendium.com>
A A A wrote:
A A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
A A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A From: DeTomaso
[[110]mailto:[2][2][114]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
A A Ray
A A A Pascarella
A A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
A A A To: L GRAY <[3][3][115][111]tipo874a at msn.com>
A A A Cc: [4][4][116][112]detomaso at poca.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
A A A Worked fine for me.
A A A Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
<[5][5][117][113]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
A A service"
AA AA A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
A A A get this
A A A recording?
Leslie A. Gray
On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
A A A <[6][6][118][114]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
A A A wrote:
AA [7]1 -[119]872-240-3311
AA Code A 968-849-333
AA --
AA Michael L. Shortt
AA Savannah, Georgia
AA [1][8][120]www.michaelshortt.com
AA [2][9][7][121][115]michael at michaelshortt.com
AA [10]912-232-9390
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A A A copying
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A A A Michael L. Shortt
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A A A [20][16][131][124]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A A [132]912-232-9390
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A A A 4. [128]mailto:[20][136]detomaso at poca.com
A A A 5. [129]mailto:[21][137]tipo874a at msn.com
A A A 6. [130]mailto:[22][138]michaelsavga at gmail.com
A A A 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
A A A 8. [23][139][131]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A A 9. [132]mailto:[24][140]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A A 10. tel:[141]912-232-9390
A A A 11. [25][142][133]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A A 12. [134]mailto:[26][143]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A A 13. [135]mailto:[27][144]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A A 14.
[28][145][136]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A A 15. [137]mailto:[29][146]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A A 16.
[30][147][138]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A A 17. [139]mailto:[31][148]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A A 18.
[32][149][140]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A A 19. [33][150][141]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A A 20. [142]mailto:[34][151]michael at michaelshortt.com
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A A 3. [147]mailto:[156]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 4. [148]mailto:[157]detomaso at poca.com
A A 5. [149]mailto:[158]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 6. [150]mailto:[159]michaelsavga at gmail.com
A A 7. [151]mailto:[160]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 8. [161][152]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 9. [153]mailto:[162]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 10. [154]mailto:[163]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 11. [164][155]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 12. [156]mailto:[165]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 13. [166][157]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 14. [158]mailto:[167]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 15. [168][159]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 16. [160]mailto:[169]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 17. [161]mailto:[170]bill at incendium.com
A A 18. [162]mailto:[171]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
A A 19. [163]mailto:[172]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 20. [164]mailto:[173]detomaso at poca.com
A A 21. [165]mailto:[174]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 22. [166]mailto:[175]michaelsavga at gmail.com
A A 23. [176][167]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 24. [168]mailto:[177]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 25. [178][169]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 26. [170]mailto:[179]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 27. [171]mailto:[180]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 28. [181][172]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 29. [173]mailto:[182]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 30. [183][174]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 31. [175]mailto:[184]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 32. [185][176]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 33. [186][177]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 34. [178]mailto:[187]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 35. [179]mailto:[188]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 36. [189][180]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
From: Michael Shortt <[190][181]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: scott black <[191][182]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Bill Moore <[192][183]bill at incendium.com>,
"[193][184]detomaso at poca.com"
A A <[194][185]detomaso at poca.com>,A A L GRAY
<[195][186]tipo874a at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
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A A
<CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=[196][187]bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gma
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I sent it to the forum Scott,
there are no secrets any more.
I will be keeping the membership informed.
Michael Shortt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black
<[197][188]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been
on the board
for a few years.
Thanks,
Scott Black
TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
[198]www.tprm-usa.com
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
[199][189]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
A A yes, on posted minutes
A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][200][190]bill at incendium.com>
A A wrote:
A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [[191]mailto:[2][201]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
On Behalf Of Ray
A A Pascarella
A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
A A To: L GRAY <[3][202][192]tipo874a at msn.com>
A A Cc: [4][203][193]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
A A Worked fine for me.
A A Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][204][194]tipo874a at msn.com>
wrote:
I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
service"
AA AA A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
A A get this
A A recording?
Leslie A. Gray
On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
A A <[6][205][195]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
AA [7]1 -[206]872-240-3311
AA Code A 968-849-333
AA --
AA Michael L. Shortt
AA Savannah, Georgia
AA [1][8][207]www.michaelshortt.com
AA [2][9][208][196]michael at michaelshortt.com
AA [10]912-232-9390
AA A
AA This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
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are hereby
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A A copying
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A A the
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AA 1. [11][209][197]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
AA 2. [198]mailto:[12][210]michael at michaelshortt.com
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A A --
A A Michael L. Shortt
A A Savannah, Georgia
A A [19][217]www.michaelshortt.com
A A [20][218][205]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A [219]912-232-9390
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A A 1. [206]mailto:[220]bill at incendium.com
A A 2. [207]mailto:[221]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
A A 3. [208]mailto:[222]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 4. [209]mailto:[223]detomaso at poca.com
A A 5. [210]mailto:[224]tipo874a at msn.com
A A 6. [211]mailto:[225]michaelsavga at gmail.com
A A 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
A A 8. [226][212]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 9. [213]mailto:[227]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 10. tel:912-232-9390
A A 11. [228][214]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
A A 12. [215]mailto:[229]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A 13. [216]mailto:[230]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 14. [231][217]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 15. [218]mailto:[232]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 16. [233][219]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A 17. [220]mailto:[234]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 18. [235][221]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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2. [233]mailto:cengles at cox.net
3. [234]mailto:detomaso-request at poca.com
4. [235]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
5. [236]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
6. [237]mailto:detomaso-request at poca.com
7. [238]mailto:detomaso-owner at poca.com
8. [239]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
9. [240]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
10. [241]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
11. [242]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
12. [243]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
13. [244]mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
14. [245]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
15. [246]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
16. [247]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
17. [248]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
18. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
19. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
20. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
21. [249]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
22. [250]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
23. [251]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
24. [252]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
25. [253]mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
26. [254]mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
27. [255]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
28. [256]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
29. [257]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
30. [258]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
31. [259]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
32. [260]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
33. [261]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
34. [262]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
35. [263]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
36. [264]mailto:adin at frontier.net
37. [265]mailto:adin at frontier.net
38. [266]mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
39. [267]mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
40. [268]mailto:adin at frontier.net
41. [269]mailto:adin at frontier.net
42. [270]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
43. [271]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
44. [272]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
45. [273]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
46. [274]mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
47. [275]mailto:adin at frontier.net
48. [276]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
49. [277]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
50. [278]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
51. [279]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
52. [280]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
53. [281]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
54. [282]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
55. [283]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
56. [284]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
57. tel:912-232-9390
58. [285]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
59. [286]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
60. [287]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
61. [288]mailto:timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
62. [289]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
63. [290]mailto:bill at incendium.com
64. [291]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
65. [292]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
66. [293]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
67.
[294]mailto:1503538904.927401.1452110192674.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.c
om
68. [295]http://www.tprm-usa.com/
69. [296]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
70. [297]mailto:bill at incendium.com
71. [298]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
72. [299]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
73. [300]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
74. [301]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
75. [302]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
76. tel:872-240-3311
77. [303]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
78. [304]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
79. [305]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
80. [306]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
81. [307]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
82. [308]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
83. [309]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
84. [310]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
85. [311]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
86. [312]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
87. [313]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
88. [314]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
89. tel:912-232-9390
90. [315]mailto:bill at incendium.com
91. [316]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
92. [317]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
93. [318]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
94. [319]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
95. [320]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
96. [321]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
97. [322]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
98. tel:912-232-9390
99. [323]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
100. [324]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
101. [325]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
102. [326]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
103. [327]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
104. [328]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
105. [329]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
106. [330]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
107. [331]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
108. [332]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
109. [333]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
110. [334]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
111. [335]http://www.tprm-usa.com/
112. [336]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
113. [337]mailto:bill at incendium.com
114. [338]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
115. [339]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
116. [340]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
117. [341]mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
118. [342]mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
119. tel:872-240-3311
120. [343]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
121. [344]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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