[DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal

Konrad Szwab kszwab at gmail.com
Fri Jan 8 22:19:40 EST 2016


(thinks of potential Romanian quick gas tank fix to car): bucket full of
gas dangling on the luggage rack, drawing fuel via mechanical pump powered
by pedals/chain drive used by passenger. Teamwork.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Kirby Schrader <kirbyschrader at mac.com>
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> That would have been a solution.
>
> The race car has a custom fuel tank that CAN be removed via the left rear
> wheel well.
> You just have to remove the suspension. Much easier than the ‘remove
> engine and transmission’ route.
>
> We/Dylan were on a budget. Result?
> Fuel cell too expensive….
> Cutting firewall… cheap. Just Dad’s labor involved.
> Effectively free….
>
> Good suggestion, though!
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> > On Jan 8, 2016, at 18:49, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > But, Kirby, why not a bladder - surely that crossed you'll's minds!
> BILL Lewis
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Kirby Schrader <
> kirbyschrader at mac.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:47 PM
> > To: cengles at cox.net
> > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 10:53, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> >> May explanation for Kirby's approach is that 1) I suspect that Kirby
> rewelded things better than the car left Modena
> >
> > Well, that can be argued, but I did get it fully welded and buttoned up.
> Will Kooiman showed me a different technique than I was using. The metal in
> the Pantera is not known for its ‘fortitude’ and I had a hell of a time
> getting my MIG to weld it nicely. I need to get a TIG and practice more.
> Regardless, it is welded up and I have no qualms about it coming loose or
> causing havoc.
> >
> >> and 2) the Dylan car has the added reinforcement of the aforementioned
> rollcage.  It is a different situation than a normal Pantera.
> > This is very true. The roll cage is actually welded into the firewall,
> so I don’t think there’s an issue.
> >
> > Why did I do it this way?
> > Well… as Dylan explained in the article, we did argue the point for
> awhile. Well, maybe you could call it a very loud discussion?
> >
> > Cutting the sheet metal of the body was NOT an option. After all, lots
> of $$$ had been spent on getting that very nice paint job on the car.
> > So, the last resort was what we went with. I took a angle grinder with a
> cutting disc and went after it.
> > It all worked out well, but I hope I am not around the day the fuel tank
> has a leak.
> > :-)
> >
> > The tank was cleaned, painted and ‘sloshed’, so I don’t think there’s a
> problem in my lifetime or Dylan’s.
> >
> > There ya’ are….
> > The explanation.
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Kirby
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>            I am sure that Kirby can provide his own rationale.
> >>
> >>
> >>                        Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Sean Korb wrote:
> >>
> >>> A little off the rails here but I think I've got the right people in
> the
> >>> room :)  It doesn't matter if you have a roll cage in your car anyway,
> but
> >>> is the bulkhead a stressed member?  It's got that big hole in the
> middle
> >>> for engine access but do more big holes cause a problem or does the
> >>> framework around the bulkhead take up the slack?  It's kind of a weird
> >>> question to ask too since the chassis looks like two rickshaws glued
> to a
> >>> tub.
> >>>
> >>> sean
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:44 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Kirby,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>              Of course!   Less sophisticated "craftsmen" have taken
> >>>> another approach to the The Shortest Distance to the Gas Tank by going
> >>>> through the sheet metal of the actual body behind the driver's door.
> This
> >>>> is known as the Billy Bob or Lonny Lunchmeat Approach.  This is
> certainly
> >>>> frowned upon and your "out of the box" solution to your conundrum of
> the
> >>>> gas tank installation was a typical flash of genius.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>                           Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh my....
> >>>>> The 'Schrader approach'?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6+
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Owen,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             Yes, you must remove the drive train unless you care to
> >>>>>> use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall behind the
> driver's seat
> >>>>>> to remove the gas tank from the front.....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             Bad news with the standard approach: You have to remove
> >>>>>> the drive train
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>              Good news with the standard approach: the gas tank
> >>>>>> removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
> >>>>>> you'll have access to that nook and cranny
> >>>>>> you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
> >>>>>> rustproofing and other modifications
> >>>>>> you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing and
> >>>>>> modifications including rebuilding
> >>>>>> you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Pantera guys
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i
> am
> >>>>>>> concerned about the gas tank
> >>>>>>> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as
> this
> >>>>>>> is the only  piece of the car not reworked by me
> >>>>>>> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine in
> >>>>>>> place
> >>>>>>> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> your advice would be appreciated
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> best regards owen cooke dublin
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> >>>>>>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <
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> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David <adin at frontier.net<mailto:
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> >>>>>>>>   Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the 330GTC, it
> >>>>>>>>   featured pop up driving lights. That must have been bugly!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   David
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]
> jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>   wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the circles are
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> >>>>>>>>   They are cutouts for something.
> >>>>>>>>   Jeff
> >>>>>>>>   6559
> >>>>>>>>   <image.png>
> >>>>>>>>   On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David <[2]adin at frontier.net
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom for a
> quiet
> >>>>>>>> hour
> >>>>>>>>     and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
> >>>>>>>>     [3]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
> >>>>>>>>     Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
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> >>>>>>>> ? [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> >>>>>>>> ? use the links above.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ? --
> >>>>>>>> ? Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>>>>> ? Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>>>>> ? [19]www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> ? [20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>> ? A
> >>>>>>>> ? This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> >>>>>>>> ? Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
> legally
> >>>>>>>> ? privileged.A? If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> >>>>>>>> ? notified
> >>>>>>>> ? that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> this
> >>>>>>>> ? communication is strictly prohibited.A? Please reply to the
> sender
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> ? you
> >>>>>>>> ? have received this message in error, then delete it.A? Thank you
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> References
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ? 1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
> >>>>>>>> ? 8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> ? 9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 10. tel:912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>> ? 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> ? 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> ? 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> ? 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> >>>>>>>> use the links above.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
> >>>>>>>>  I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on
> the
> >>>>>>>>  board for a few years.
> >>>>>>>>  Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>  Scott Black
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
> >>>>>>>>  www.tprm-usa.com
> >>>>>>>>  On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
> >>>>>>>>  <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>    yes, on posted minutes
> >>>>>>>>    On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1][1]
> >>>>>>>> bill at incendium.com>
> >>>>>>>>    wrote:
> >>>>>>>>      I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
> >>>>>>>>      Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
> >>>>>>>>    -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> >>>>>>>> Behalf Of
> >>>>>>>>  Ray
> >>>>>>>>    Pascarella
> >>>>>>>>    Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
> >>>>>>>>    To: L GRAY <[3][3]tipo874a at msn.com>
> >>>>>>>>    Cc: [4][4]detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
> >>>>>>>>    Worked fine for me.
> >>>>>>>>    Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][5]tipo874a at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  service"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody
> else
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    get this
> >>>>>>>>    recording?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    <[6][6]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>    wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A  [7]1 -872-240-3311
> >>>>>>>>>> A  Code A 968-849-333
> >>>>>>>>>> A  --
> >>>>>>>>>> A  Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>>>>>>> A  Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>>>>>>> A  [1][8]www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>> A  [2][9][7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>> A  [10]912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>>> A  A
> >>>>>>>>>> A  This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
> Privacy
> >>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
> legally
> >>>>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  hereby
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> notifiedA  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    copying
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> of thisA  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> sender thatA  youA  have received this message in error, then
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  delete
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it.AA  Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> References
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A  1. [11][8]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>>> A  2. mailto:[12][9]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
> list
> >>>>>>>>>> [13][10]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    [14][11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    etc.) use
> >>>>>>>>    the links above.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>    Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>    Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
> list
> >>>>>>>>    [15][12]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    [16][13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>    use
> >>>>>>>>    the links above.
> >>>>>>>>    _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>    Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>    Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>>>    DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>>    [17][14]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    [18][15]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>    use the links above.
> >>>>>>>>    --
> >>>>>>>>    Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>>>>>    Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>>>>>    [19]www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>    [20][16]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>    912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>    A
> >>>>>>>>    This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
> Privacy
> >>>>>>>>    Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
> legally
> >>>>>>>>    privileged.A  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> >>>>>>>> hereby
> >>>>>>>>    notified
> >>>>>>>>    that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> this
> >>>>>>>>    communication is strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the
> sender
> >>>>>>>>  that
> >>>>>>>>    you
> >>>>>>>>    have received this message in error, then delete it.A  Thank
> you
> >>>>>>>>  References
> >>>>>>>>    1. mailto:[17]bill at incendium.com
> >>>>>>>>    2. mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    3. mailto:[19]tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>    4. mailto:[20]detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    5. mailto:[21]tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>    6. mailto:[22]michaelsavga at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>    7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
> >>>>>>>>    8. [23]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>    9. mailto:[24]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>    10. tel:912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>    11. [25]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>    12. mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>    13. mailto:[27]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    14. [28]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    15. mailto:[29]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    16. [30]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    17. mailto:[31]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    18. [32]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>    19. [33]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>    20. mailto:[34]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>  Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>>>  DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>>  [35]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>  [36]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>  use the links above.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> References
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
> >>>>>>>>  2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>  3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>  4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>  5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>  6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>  7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>  8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>  9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> 17. mailto:bill at incendium.com
> >>>>>>>> 18. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 19. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>> 20. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 21. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>> 22. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> 23. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> 24. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> 25. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> 26. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> 27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 29. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 31. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 32. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 33. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>> 34. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>> 35. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>> 36. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
> >>>>>>>> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> To: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> >>>>>>>>  <detomaso at poca.com>,    L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
> >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=
> bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
> >>>>>>>> there are no secrets any more.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I will be keeping the membership informed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black <
> timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on
> the
> >>>>>>>>> board
> >>>>>>>>> for a few years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Scott Black
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
> >>>>>>>>> www.tprm-usa.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
> >>>>>>>>> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> yes, on posted minutes
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1]
> bill at incendium.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
> >>>>>>>>>   Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>>>>>>>> Ray
> >>>>>>>>> Pascarella
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: L GRAY <[3]tipo874a at msn.com>
> >>>>>>>>> Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
> >>>>>>>>> Worked fine for me.
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
> service"
> >>>>>>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody
> else
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> get this
> >>>>>>>>> recording?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <[6]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  [7]1 -872-240-3311
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  Code A 968-849-333
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  --
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  [1][8]www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  [2][9]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  [10]912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  A
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
> Privacy
> >>>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
> legally
> >>>>>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> >>>>>>>>>>> notifiedA  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> copying
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> of thisA  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sender thatA  youA  have received this message in error, then
> delete
> >>>>>>>>>>> it.AA  Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> References
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  1. [11]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>> A  2. mailto:[12]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
> list
> >>>>>>>>>>> [13]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [14]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> etc.) use
> >>>>>>>>> the links above.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>>> [15]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> [16]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>> the links above.
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>>> [17]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> >>>>>>>>> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>> use the links above.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>>>>>> Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>>>>>> [19]www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>> [20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>> 912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>> A
> >>>>>>>>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> >>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >>>>>>>>> privileged.A  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> >>>>>>>>> notified
> >>>>>>>>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> this
> >>>>>>>>> communication is strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the
> sender
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> have received this message in error, then delete it.A  Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> References
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
> >>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
> >>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
> >>>>>>>>> 8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>> 9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>> 10. tel:912-232-9390
> >>>>>>>>> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>>>>>>>> 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>>>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> >>>>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>> the links above.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> >>>>>>> use the links above.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> >>>>>> use the links above.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> >>>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>
> >>>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>>
> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
> use
> >>>> the links above.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> >>> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> >>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> >>> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>> DeTomaso at poca.com
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> >>>
> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
> use the links above.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>
> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
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> >
> >
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> >
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> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
> use the links above.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use
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   (thinks of potential Romanian quick gas tank fix to car): bucket full
   of gas dangling on the luggage rack, drawing fuel via mechanical pump
   powered by pedals/chain drive used by passenger. Teamwork.

   On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Kirby Schrader
   <[1]kirbyschrader at mac.com> wrote:

     Bill,
     That would have been a solution.
     The race car has a custom fuel tank that CAN be removed via the left
     rear wheel well.
     You just have to remove the suspension. Much easier than the aremove
     engine and transmissiona route.
     We/Dylan were on a budget. Result?
     Fuel cell too expensivea|.
     Cutting firewalla| cheap. Just Dadas labor involved.
     Effectively freea|.
     Good suggestion, though!
     FWIW,
     Kirby
     > On Jan 8, 2016, at 18:49, Bill Lewis <[2]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
     >
     > But, Kirby, why not a bladder - surely that crossed you'll's
     minds!A  A  A  BILL Lewis
     >
     > ________________________________________
     > From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Kirby
     Schrader <[4]kirbyschrader at mac.com>
     > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:47 PM
     > To: [5]cengles at cox.net
     > Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com
     > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
     >
     >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 10:53, [7]cengles at cox.net wrote:
     >> May explanation for Kirby's approach is that 1) I suspect that
     Kirby rewelded things better than the car left Modena
     >
     > Well, that can be argued, but I did get it fully welded and
     buttoned up. Will Kooiman showed me a different technique than I was
     using. The metal in the Pantera is not known for its afortitudea and
     I had a hell of a time getting my MIG to weld it nicely. I need to
     get a TIG and practice more. Regardless, it is welded up and I have
     no qualms about it coming loose or causing havoc.
     >
     >> and 2) the Dylan car has the added reinforcement of the
     aforementioned rollcage.A  It is a different situation than a normal
     Pantera.
     > This is very true. The roll cage is actually welded into the
     firewall, so I donat think thereas an issue.
     >
     > Why did I do it this way?
     > Wella| as Dylan explained in the article, we did argue the point
     for awhile. Well, maybe you could call it a very loud discussion?
     >
     > Cutting the sheet metal of the body was NOT an option. After all,
     lots of $$$ had been spent on getting that very nice paint job on
     the car.
     > So, the last resort was what we went with. I took a angle grinder
     with a cutting disc and went after it.
     > It all worked out well, but I hope I am not around the day the
     fuel tank has a leak.
     > :-)
     >
     > The tank was cleaned, painted and aslosheda, so I donat think
     thereas a problem in my lifetime or Dylanas.
     >
     > There yaa area|.
     > The explanation.
     >
     > FWIW,
     > Kirby
     >
     >
     >>
     >>
     >>A  A  A  A  A  A  I am sure that Kirby can provide his own
     rationale.
     >>
     >>
     >>A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Sean Korb wrote:
     >>
     >>> A little off the rails here but I think I've got the right
     people in the
     >>> room :)A  It doesn't matter if you have a roll cage in your car
     anyway, but
     >>> is the bulkhead a stressed member?A  It's got that big hole in
     the middle
     >>> for engine access but do more big holes cause a problem or does
     the
     >>> framework around the bulkhead take up the slack?A  It's kind of
     a weird
     >>> question to ask too since the chassis looks like two rickshaws
     glued to a
     >>> tub.
     >>>
     >>> sean
     >>>
     >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:44 AM, <[8]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
     >>>
     >>>> Dear Kirby,
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Of course!A  A Less sophisticated
     "craftsmen" have taken
     >>>> another approach to the The Shortest Distance to the Gas Tank
     by going
     >>>> through the sheet metal of the actual body behind the driver's
     door. This
     >>>> is known as the Billy Bob or Lonny Lunchmeat Approach.A  This
     is certainly
     >>>> frowned upon and your "out of the box" solution to your
     conundrum of the
     >>>> gas tank installation was a typical flash of genius.
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards, Chuck
     Engles
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>> Oh my....
     >>>>> The 'Schrader approach'?
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6+
     >>>>>
     >>>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, [9]cengles at cox.net wrote:
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Dear Owen,
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, you must remove the drive train
     unless you care to
     >>>>>> use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall behind the
     driver's seat
     >>>>>> to remove the gas tank from the front.....
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A Bad news with the standard approach: You
     have to remove
     >>>>>> the drive train
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Good news with the standard approach: the
     gas tank
     >>>>>> removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
     >>>>>> you'll have access to that nook and cranny
     >>>>>> you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your
     complete
     >>>>>> rustproofing and other modifications
     >>>>>> you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning,
     fixing and
     >>>>>> modifications including rebuilding
     >>>>>> you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and
     fixing
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards, Chuck
     Engles
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Hello Pantera guys
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently
     but i am
     >>>>>>> concerned about the gas tank
     >>>>>>> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind
     it as this
     >>>>>>> is the onlyA  piece of the car not reworked by me
     >>>>>>> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the
     engine in
     >>>>>>> place
     >>>>>>> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension
     ??
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> your advice would be appreciated
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> best regards owen cooke dublin
     >>>>>>>
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     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  1. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Larry - Ohio Time)
     >>>>>>>>A  2. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (scott black)
     >>>>>>>>A  3. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (Michael Shortt)
     >>>>>>>>A  4. More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re:A  Anti
     Football Run
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A (Guido deTomaso)
     >>>>>>>>A  5. Fwd: DeTomaso post from [15]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     requires
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A approval (Michael Shortt)
     >>>>>>>>A  6. Re: Gray makes the grade! (Tomas Gunnarsson)
     >>>>>>>>A  7. 2016 Jan POCA BOD Meeting (Michael Shortt)
     >>>>>>>>A  8. Re: Fwd: DeTomaso post from [16]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     requires
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A approval (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
     >>>>>>>>A  9. Panteras at Le Mans Classic (davek)
     >>>>>>>> 10. Re: Congratulations (Mike Thomas)
     >>>>>>>> 11. Re: Congratulations (Mike Reilly)
     >>>>>>>> 12. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,A  A  was Re:A
     Anti Football
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A Run ([17]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
     >>>>>>>> 13. Re: Gray makes the grade! ([18]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
     >>>>>>>> 14. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re: Anti
     Football
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A Run (Michael Shortt)
     >>>>>>>> 15. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,A  A  was Re: Anti
     Football
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A Run ([19]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
     >>>>>>>> 16. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
     >>>>>>>> 17. POCA mart (Paul A Rimov)
     >>>>>>>> 18. Re: Congratulations (Michael Haney)
     >>>>>>>> 19. Wheels and Tires, was Re:A  More Anti-Footbal Pics,
     comments,
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A was Re: Anti Football Run (Guido deTomaso)
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
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     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Message: 1
     >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
     >>>>>>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <[20]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
     >>>>>>>> To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'"
     <[21]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     >>>>>>>> Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'"
     <[22]detomaso at poca.com>
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
     >>>>>>>> Message-ID: <1E0F81F4FDBB4E17880A6361501BDFB0 at LarryHPPC>
     >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;A  A  charset="UTF-8"
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> << criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Is that even possible??
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
     Behalf Of Himes,
     >>>>>>>> Terry (397C)
     >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
     >>>>>>>> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
     >>>>>>>> Cc: [24]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> He should just give the narration and someone else could
     write it?
     >>>>>>>> Called collaboration.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several
     books. Also
     >>>>>>>> collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
     >>>>>>>> Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.A  Highly
     criticized
     >>>>>>>> for putting too much sex into his fiction.
     >>>>>>>> I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 childrenA
     (or is it
     >>>>>>>> married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)A  All boys.
     >>>>>>>> Working with him is a hoot.A  A 2 beer story.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
     >>>>>>>> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
     tried
     >>>>>>>> to contact us!"
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Terry W. Himes
     >>>>>>>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     >>>>>>>> InSight Sequence Team Lead
     >>>>>>>> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
     >>>>>>>> Phone: [25](818) 393-6261
     >>>>>>>> Cell:A  A  A [26](818) 653-8213
     >>>>>>>> Fax:A  A  A [27](818) 393-3147
     >>>>>>>> [28]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[29]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     >>>>>>>> ??
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso <[30]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:
     >>>>>>>> [31]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of "Joseph F.
     Byrd, Jr." <
     >>>>>>>>
     [32]byrdjf at embarqmail.com<mailto:[33]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>>
     >>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:40 AM
     >>>>>>>> To: 'Michael Shortt' <[34]michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:
     >>>>>>>> [35]michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
     >>>>>>>> Cc: "[36]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[37]detomaso at poca.com>"
     <[38]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> <mailto:[39]detomaso at poca.com>>
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent
     released
     >>>>>>>> deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express
     the desire for a
     >>>>>>>> book not documenting the people that are responsible for
     the Pantera, but
     >>>>>>>> could a book be about the development of the Pantera
     detailing the work of
     >>>>>>>> those people, more of an technical/engineering/design
     documentation.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and
     how much he
     >>>>>>>> enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the only
     one that could
     >>>>>>>> write a book that would be of a highly technical aspect
     would be T
     >>>>>>>> Tjaarda.A  If he would undertake such a task, I would hope
     he could gather
     >>>>>>>> the recollection of the engineers he worked with.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what
     ?item? would I
     >>>>>>>> want personalized by Tjaarda.A  I would think a
     reproduction of one of the
     >>>>>>>> construction drawings during the design would be my most
     lusted after.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Could POCA ask if he would?
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Joe in NC/5177
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[40]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
     Behalf Of
     >>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:17 AM
     >>>>>>>> To: David; Jeff Cobb
     >>>>>>>> Cc: [41]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[42]detomaso at poca.com>
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Good Morning,
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge
     at the 2016
     >>>>>>>> Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
     >>>>>>>> He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit
     on Saturday
     >>>>>>>> and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
     >>>>>>>> Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and
     attend the
     >>>>>>>> Speed Classic races as my guest.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we
     are
     >>>>>>>> limited to 12.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa,
     GTS, Pre L,
     >>>>>>>> L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race
     car.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> The concours dates are November 5 and 6
     >>>>>>>> the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also
     have an
     >>>>>>>> opportunity for a sprint race each day.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat
     124 and MB
     >>>>>>>> Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct
     29th during the
     >>>>>>>> speed classic,A  I will be extending this offer to all
     Detomaso owners as
     >>>>>>>> well.
     >>>>>>>> Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for
     free that day.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do,
     when the new
     >>>>>>>> website is up, we will post a registration area.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send
     info and lots
     >>>>>>>> of photos to me.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>> President
     >>>>>>>> POCA
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David
     <[43]adin at frontier.net<mailto:
     >>>>>>>> [44]adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the
     330GTC, it
     >>>>>>>>A  A featured pop up driving lights. That must have been
     bugly!
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A Cheers,
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A David
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich
     <[1][45]jjdetrich at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>> <mailto:[46]jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the
     circles are
     >>>>>>>> for?
     >>>>>>>>A  A They are cutouts for something.
     >>>>>>>>A  A Jeff
     >>>>>>>>A  A 6559
     >>>>>>>>A  A <image.png>
     >>>>>>>>A  A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David
     <[2][47]adin at frontier.net
     >>>>>>>> <mailto:[48]adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom
     for a quiet
     >>>>>>>> hour
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
     >>>>>>>>A  A
     A [3][49]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
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     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
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     >>>>>>>> Message: 2
     >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:56:32 +0000 (UTC)
     >>>>>>>> From: scott black <[68]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
     >>>>>>>> To: Michael Shortt <[69]michaelsavga at gmail.com>, Bill Moore
     >>>>>>>>A  <[70]bill at incendium.com>
     >>>>>>>> Cc: "[71]detomaso at poca.com" <[72]detomaso at poca.com>, L GRAY
     <[73]tipo874a at msn.com>
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
     >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
     >>>>>>>>
     <[74]1503538904.927401.1452110192674.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
     >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not
     been on the
     >>>>>>>> board for a few years.
     >>>>>>>> Thanks,
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Scott Black
     >>>>>>>> ?TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing
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     >>>>>>>>A  A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
     >>>>>>>> [76]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? yes, on posted minutes
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
     <[1][77]bill at incendium.com>
     >>>>>>>> ? wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? ? I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
     >>>>>>>> ? ? Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>>>> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][78]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
     On Behalf Of
     >>>>>>>> Ray
     >>>>>>>> ? Pascarella
     >>>>>>>> ? Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
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     >>>>>>>> ? Cc: [4][80]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
     >>>>>>>> ? Worked fine for me.
     >>>>>>>> ? Sent from my iPad
     >>>>>>>> ? > On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
     <[5][81]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>> ? >
     >>>>>>>> ? > I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is
     not in
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     >>>>>>>> ? >A? A? A Checked info two times with same
     result........anybody else
     >>>>>>>> ? get this
     >>>>>>>> ? recording?
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     >>>>>>>> ? > Leslie A. Gray
     >>>>>>>> ? >
     >>>>>>>> ? >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
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     >>>>>>>> ? >>
     >>>>>>>> ? >> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>> ? etc.) use
     >>>>>>>> ? the links above.
     >>>>>>>> ? >
     >>>>>>>> ? > _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>> ? _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>> ? Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>> ? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
     mailing list
     >>>>>>>> ? [15][90]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ?
     [16][91]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe, etc.)
     >>>>>>>> ? use
     >>>>>>>> ? the links above.
     >>>>>>>> ? _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>> ? Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>> ? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>> ? DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>> ? [17][92]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ?
     [18][93]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe, etc.)
     >>>>>>>> ? use the links above.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? --
     >>>>>>>> ? Michael L. Shortt
     >>>>>>>> ? Savannah, Georgia
     >>>>>>>> ? [19][94]www.michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> ? [20][95]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> ? [96]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>> ? A
     >>>>>>>> ? This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
     Privacy
     >>>>>>>> ? Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
     legally
     >>>>>>>> ? privileged.A? If you are not the intended recipient, you
     are hereby
     >>>>>>>> ? notified
     >>>>>>>> ? that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
     copying of this
     >>>>>>>> ? communication is strictly prohibited.A? Please reply to
     the sender
     >>>>>>>> that
     >>>>>>>> ? you
     >>>>>>>> ? have received this message in error, then delete it.A?
     Thank you
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> References
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ? 1. mailto:[97]bill at incendium.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 2. mailto:[98]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 3. mailto:[99]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 4. mailto:[100]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 5. mailto:[101]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 6. mailto:[102]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
     >>>>>>>> ? 8. [103]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> ? 9. mailto:[104]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 10. tel:[105]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>> ? 11. [106]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> ? 12. mailto:[107]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 13. mailto:[108]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 14.
     [109]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 15. mailto:[110]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 16.
     [111]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 17. mailto:[112]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 18.
     [113]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> ? 19. [114]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> ? 20. mailto:[115]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>> [116]DeTomaso at poca.com
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     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe, etc.)
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     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
     >>>>>>>>A  I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not
     been on the
     >>>>>>>>A  board for a few years.
     >>>>>>>>A  Thanks,
     >>>>>>>>A  Scott Black
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing
     Acceleration
     >>>>>>>>A  [118]www.tprm-usa.com
     >>>>>>>>A  On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>>A  <[119]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>A  A  yes, on posted minutes
     >>>>>>>>A  A  On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1][1]
     >>>>>>>> [120]bill at incendium.com>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  wrote:
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A  I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A  Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
     >>>>>>>>A  A  -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>>>>A  A  From: DeTomaso
     [mailto:[2][2][121]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
     >>>>>>>> Behalf Of
     >>>>>>>>A  Ray
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Pascarella
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
     >>>>>>>>A  A  To: L GRAY <[3][3][122]tipo874a at msn.com>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Cc: [4][4][123]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Worked fine for me.
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Sent from my iPad
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
     <[5][5][124]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not
     in
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  service"
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> AA  AA  A Checked info two times with same
     result........anybody else
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  get this
     >>>>>>>>A  A  recording?
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A  <[6][6][125]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  wrote:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  [7]1 -[126]872-240-3311
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  Code A 968-849-333
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  --
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  Michael L. Shortt
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  Savannah, Georgia
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  [1][8][127]www.michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  [2][9][7][128]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  [10]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  A
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  This email is protected by the Electronic
     Communications Privacy
     >>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
     legally
     >>>>>>>>>> privileged.AAA  If you are not the intended recipient,
     you are
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  hereby
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> notifiedAA  that any retention, dissemination,
     distribution or
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A  copying
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> of thisAA  communication is strictly prohibited.AAA
     Please reply to
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A  the
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> sender thatAA  youAA  have received this message in error,
     then
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  delete
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> it.AAA  Thank you
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> References
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  1. [11][8][129]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  2. mailto:[12][9][130]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
     mailing list
     >>>>>>>>>> [13][10][131]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A
     [14][11][132]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A  etc.) use
     >>>>>>>>A  A  the links above.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  A  _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
     mailing list
     >>>>>>>>A  A  [15][12][133]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A
     [16][13][134]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>> etc.)
     >>>>>>>>A  A  use
     >>>>>>>>A  A  the links above.
     >>>>>>>>A  A  _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>>A  A  DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>>A  A  [17][14][135]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A
     [18][15][136]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>> etc.)
     >>>>>>>>A  A  use the links above.
     >>>>>>>>A  A  --
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Michael L. Shortt
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Savannah, Georgia
     >>>>>>>>A  A  [19][137]www.michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  [20][16][138]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  [139]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>A  A  A
     >>>>>>>>A  A  This email is protected by the Electronic
     Communications Privacy
     >>>>>>>>A  A  Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may
     be legally
     >>>>>>>>A  A  privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient,
     you are
     >>>>>>>> hereby
     >>>>>>>>A  A  notified
     >>>>>>>>A  A  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
     copying of this
     >>>>>>>>A  A  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply
     to the sender
     >>>>>>>>A  that
     >>>>>>>>A  A  you
     >>>>>>>>A  A  have received this message in error, then delete
     it.AA  Thank you
     >>>>>>>>A  References
     >>>>>>>>A  A  1. mailto:[17][140]bill at incendium.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  2. mailto:[18][141]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  3. mailto:[19][142]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  4. mailto:[20][143]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  5. mailto:[21][144]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  6. mailto:[22][145]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
     >>>>>>>>A  A  8. [23][146]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>A  A  9. mailto:[24][147]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  10. tel:[148]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>A  A  11. [25][149]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>A  A  12. mailto:[26][150]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  13. mailto:[27][151]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  14.
     [28][152]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  15. mailto:[29][153]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  16.
     [30][154]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  17. mailto:[31][155]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  18.
     [32][156]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  A  19. [33][157]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>A  A  20. mailto:[34][158]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>A  Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>A  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>>A  DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>>A  [35][159]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A
     [36][160]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>> etc.)
     >>>>>>>>A  use the links above.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> References
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>A  1. mailto:[161]bill at incendium.com
     >>>>>>>>A  2. mailto:[162]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  3. mailto:[163]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>A  4. mailto:[164]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>A  5. mailto:[165]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>A  6. mailto:[166]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>>A  7. mailto:[167]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>A  8. [168]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>A  9. mailto:[169]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[170]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 11. [171]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 12. mailto:[172]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 13. [173]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[174]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 15. [175]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 16. mailto:[176]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> 17. mailto:[177]bill at incendium.com
     >>>>>>>> 18. mailto:[178]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 19. mailto:[179]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>> 20. mailto:[180]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 21. mailto:[181]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>> 22. mailto:[182]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>> 23. [183]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[184]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> 25. [185]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[186]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> 27. mailto:[187]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 28. [188]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[189]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 30. [190]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 31. mailto:[191]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 32. [192]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 33. [193]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>> 34. mailto:[194]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>> 35. mailto:[195]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>> 36. [196]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ------------------------------
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Message: 3
     >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
     >>>>>>>> From: Michael Shortt <[197]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     >>>>>>>> To: scott black <[198]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
     >>>>>>>> Cc: Bill Moore <[199]bill at incendium.com>,
     "[200]detomaso at poca.com"
     >>>>>>>>A  <[201]detomaso at poca.com>,A  A  L GRAY
     <[202]tipo874a at msn.com>
     >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
     >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     <CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=[203]bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gmail
     .com>
     >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
     >>>>>>>> there are no secrets any more.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> I will be keeping the membership informed.
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black
     <[204]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
     >>>>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not
     been on the
     >>>>>>>>> board
     >>>>>>>>> for a few years.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> Scott Black
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing
     Acceleration
     >>>>>>>>> [205]www.tprm-usa.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
     >>>>>>>>> [206]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> yes, on posted minutes
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
     <[1][207]bill at incendium.com>
     >>>>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>A  A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
     >>>>>>>>>A  A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
     >>>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][208]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
     On Behalf Of
     >>>>>>>>> Ray
     >>>>>>>>> Pascarella
     >>>>>>>>> Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
     >>>>>>>>> To: L GRAY <[3][209]tipo874a at msn.com>
     >>>>>>>>> Cc: [4][210]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
     >>>>>>>>> Worked fine for me.
     >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
     <[5][211]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not
     in service"
     >>>>>>>>>> AA  AA  A Checked info two times with same
     result........anybody else
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> get this
     >>>>>>>>> recording?
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> <[6][212]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     >>>>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  [7]1 -[213]872-240-3311
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  Code A 968-849-333
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  --
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  Michael L. Shortt
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  Savannah, Georgia
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  [1][8][214]www.michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  [2][9][215]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  [10]912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  A
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  This email is protected by the Electronic
     Communications Privacy
     >>>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may
     be legally
     >>>>>>>>>>> privileged.AAA  If you are not the intended recipient,
     you are hereby
     >>>>>>>>>>> notifiedAA  that any retention, dissemination,
     distribution or
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> copying
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> of thisAA  communication is strictly prohibited.AAA
     Please reply to
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> the
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> sender thatAA  youAA  have received this message in
     error, then delete
     >>>>>>>>>>> it.AAA  Thank you
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> References
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  1. [11][216]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>>>> AA  2. mailto:[12][217]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
     mailing list
     >>>>>>>>>>> [13][218]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>
     [14][219]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> etc.) use
     >>>>>>>>> the links above.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
     mailing list
     >>>>>>>>> [15][220]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     [16][221]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>>> etc.)
     >>>>>>>>> use
     >>>>>>>>> the links above.
     >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>>> [17][222]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     [18][223]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >>>>>>>>> etc.)
     >>>>>>>>> use the links above.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> --
     >>>>>>>>> Michael L. Shortt
     >>>>>>>>> Savannah, Georgia
     >>>>>>>>> [19][224]www.michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>> [20][225]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>> 912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>> A
     >>>>>>>>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
     Privacy
     >>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
     legally
     >>>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you
     are hereby
     >>>>>>>>> notified
     >>>>>>>>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying
     of this
     >>>>>>>>> communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply to
     the sender
     >>>>>>>>> that
     >>>>>>>>> you
     >>>>>>>>> have received this message in error, then delete it.AA
     Thank you
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> References
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[226]bill at incendium.com
     >>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[227]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[228]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[229]detomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[230]tipo874a at msn.com
     >>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[231]michaelsavga at gmail.com
     >>>>>>>>> 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
     >>>>>>>>> 8. [232]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>> 9. mailto:[233]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>> 10. tel:912-232-9390
     >>>>>>>>> 11. [234]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>> 12. mailto:[235]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[236]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 14.
     [237]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[238]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 16.
     [239]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 17. mailto:[240]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 18.
     [241]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> 19. [242]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
     >>>>>>>>> 20. mailto:[243]michael at michaelshortt.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>>>> [244]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>>>> [245]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe, etc.)
     >>>>>>>>> use
     >>>>>>>>> the links above.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>>> [246]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>>> [247]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe, etc.)
     >>>>>>> use the links above.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> _______________________________________________
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>>>>> [248]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>>>>> [249]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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