[DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 8 19:02:38 EST 2016


They have; ATL make standard sizes of rubber-Kevlar all in one fuel tanks/bladders. I spoke to one vendor at a car show a few years ago about a custom Pantera bladder, they were casting some form of rubber fuel cells that were stand alone and required no exterior box, but for the life of me I cannot recall the company's name right now, I thought I had their brochure here somewhere.

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Charles Engles; spkorb at gmail.com
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal

So why hasn't someone invented a "flexible" fuel tank?  You know, some type of a bladder?      ---Bill (if they can put a man on the moon…) Lewis

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 7:52 PM
To: Charles Engles
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal

That's the missing piece.  I was certain about Kirby's car... I should have
looked up Dylan's car and it would have been pretty clear :)

I was also just curious in general.  Some of the structure of our cars
isn't as obvious.  I'm really glad to know that I can operate on my fuel
pickup with the tank in the car now too!  I only learn more if I'm paying
attention ;)

sean

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:53 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear Sean,
>
>
>              I think that is a valid concern.  May explanation for Kirby's
> approach is that 1) I suspect that Kirby rewelded things better than the
> car left Modena and 2) the Dylan car has the added reinforcement of the
> aforementioned rollcage.  It is a different situation than a normal Pantera.
>
>
>              I am sure that Kirby can provide his own rationale.
>
>
>                          Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Sean Korb wrote:
>
> A little off the rails here but I think I've got the right people in the
>> room :)  It doesn't matter if you have a roll cage in your car anyway, but
>> is the bulkhead a stressed member?  It's got that big hole in the middle
>> for engine access but do more big holes cause a problem or does the
>> framework around the bulkhead take up the slack?  It's kind of a weird
>> question to ask too since the chassis looks like two rickshaws glued to a
>> tub.
>>
>> sean
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:44 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Kirby,
>>>
>>>
>>>                Of course!   Less sophisticated "craftsmen" have taken
>>> another approach to the The Shortest Distance to the Gas Tank by going
>>> through the sheet metal of the actual body behind the driver's door. This
>>> is known as the Billy Bob or Lonny Lunchmeat Approach.  This is certainly
>>> frowned upon and your "out of the box" solution to your conundrum of the
>>> gas tank installation was a typical flash of genius.
>>>
>>>
>>>                             Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh my....
>>>
>>>> The 'Schrader approach'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6+
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Owen,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               Yes, you must remove the drive train unless you care to
>>>>> use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall behind the driver's
>>>>> seat
>>>>> to remove the gas tank from the front.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               Bad news with the standard approach: You have to remove
>>>>> the drive train
>>>>>
>>>>>                Good news with the standard approach: the gas tank
>>>>> removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
>>>>> you'll have access to that nook and cranny
>>>>> you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
>>>>> rustproofing and other modifications
>>>>> you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing and
>>>>> modifications including rebuilding
>>>>> you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Pantera guys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i am
>>>>>> concerned about the gas tank
>>>>>> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as this
>>>>>> is the only  piece of the car not reworked by me
>>>>>> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine in
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your advice would be appreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best regards owen cooke dublin
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>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
>>>>>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'" <detomaso at poca.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <1E0F81F4FDBB4E17880A6361501BDFB0 at LarryHPPC>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"
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>>>>>>> << criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that even possible??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Himes,
>>>>>>> Terry (397C)
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
>>>>>>> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
>>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He should just give the narration and someone else could write it?
>>>>>>> Called collaboration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several books. Also
>>>>>>> collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
>>>>>>> Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.  Highly criticized
>>>>>>> for putting too much sex into his fiction.
>>>>>>> I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 children  (or is it
>>>>>>> married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)  All boys.
>>>>>>> Working with him is a hoot.   2 beer story.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>>>>>>>   exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
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>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:
>>>>>>> detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <
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>>>>>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com
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>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent released
>>>>>>> deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express the desire
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> book not documenting the people that are responsible for the
>>>>>>> Pantera, but
>>>>>>> could a book be about the development of the Pantera detailing the
>>>>>>> work of
>>>>>>> those people, more of an technical/engineering/design documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and how much he
>>>>>>> enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the only one that
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> write a book that would be of a highly technical aspect would be T
>>>>>>> Tjaarda.  If he would undertake such a task, I would hope he could
>>>>>>> gather
>>>>>>> the recollection of the engineers he worked with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item? would
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> want personalized by Tjaarda.  I would think a reproduction of one
>>>>>>> of the
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>>>>>>> after.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could POCA ask if he would?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe in NC/5177
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>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>>>>> To: David; Jeff Cobb
>>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge at the
>>>>>>> 2016
>>>>>>> Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
>>>>>>> He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit on Saturday
>>>>>>> and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
>>>>>>> Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and attend the
>>>>>>> Speed Classic races as my guest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we are
>>>>>>> limited to 12.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa, GTS, Pre L,
>>>>>>> L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The concours dates are November 5 and 6
>>>>>>> the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also have an
>>>>>>> opportunity for a sprint race each day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat 124 and
>>>>>>> MB
>>>>>>> Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct 29th during
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> speed classic,  I will be extending this offer to all Detomaso
>>>>>>> owners as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for free that
>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do, when the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> website is up, we will post a registration area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send info and
>>>>>>> lots
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>>>> President
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David <adin at frontier.net<mailto:
>>>>>>> adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the 330GTC, it
>>>>>>>     featured pop up driving lights. That must have been bugly!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>     wrote:
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>>>>>>>     Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the circles are
>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>     They are cutouts for something.
>>>>>>>     Jeff
>>>>>>>     6559
>>>>>>>     <image.png>
>>>>>>>     On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David <[2]adin at frontier.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom for a quiet
>>>>>>> hour
>>>>>>>       and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
>>>>>>>       [3]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
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>>>>>>> To: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, Bill Moore
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>>>>>>>    I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on
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>>>>>>>    board for a few years.
>>>>>>>    Thanks,
>>>>>>>    Scott Black
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>>>>>>>    TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
>>>>>>>    www.tprm-usa.com
>>>>>>>    On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>>>>>    <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>      yes, on posted minutes
>>>>>>>      On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1][1]
>>>>>>> bill at incendium.com>
>>>>>>>      wrote:
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>>>>>>>        Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>>>>>      -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>      From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>>    Ray
>>>>>>>      Pascarella
>>>>>>>      Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>>>>>>      To: L GRAY <[3][3]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>>>>>      Cc: [4][4]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>>>>      Worked fine for me.
>>>>>>>      Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    service"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody else
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      get this
>>>>>>>      recording?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      <[6][6]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A  [7]1 -872-240-3311
>>>>>>>>> A  Code A 968-849-333
>>>>>>>>> A  --
>>>>>>>>> A  Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>>>>> A  Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>>>>> A  [1][8]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>> A  [2][9][7]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>> A  [10]912-232-9390
>>>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>>>> A  This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
>>>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    hereby
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> notifiedA  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      copying
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of thisA  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sender thatA  youA  have received this message in error, then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    delete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it.AA  Thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A  1. [11][8]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>>> A  2. mailto:[12][9]michael at michaelshortt.com
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>>>>>>>      Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>>>      Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>>>      [19]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>      [20][16]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>      912-232-9390
>>>>>>>      A
>>>>>>>      This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
>>>>>>>      Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
>>>>>>> legally
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>>>>>>>      2. mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>>>      3. mailto:[19]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>      4. mailto:[20]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>      5. mailto:[21]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>      6. mailto:[22]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>>>>      7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>>>>>>      8. [23]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>      9. mailto:[24]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>      10. tel:912-232-9390
>>>>>>>      11. [25]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>      12. mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>      13. mailto:[27]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>      14. [28]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>      15. mailto:[29]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>      16. [30]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>      17. mailto:[31]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>      18. [32]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>      19. [33]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>      20. mailto:[34]michael at michaelshortt.com
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>>>>>>> References
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>>>>>>>    1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>>>>    2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>>>    3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>    5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>    6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>>>>    7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>    8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>    9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>   17. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>>>>   18. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>>>   19. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>   20. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   21. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>   22. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>>>>   23. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>   24. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>   25. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>   26. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>   27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   29. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   31. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   32. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>   33. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>   34. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>   35. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>   36. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
>>>>>>> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
>>>>>>>    <detomaso at poca.com>,    L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
>>>>>>> there are no secrets any more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be keeping the membership informed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on the
>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>> for a few years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott Black
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
>>>>>>>> www.tprm-usa.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
>>>>>>>> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   yes, on posted minutes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1]bill at incendium.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
>>>>>>>>     Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>   Pascarella
>>>>>>>>   Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>>>>>>>   To: L GRAY <[3]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>>>>>>   Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>>>>>   Worked fine for me.
>>>>>>>>   Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
>>>>>>>>> service"
>>>>>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody else
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   get this
>>>>>>>>   recording?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   <[6]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A  [7]1 -872-240-3311
>>>>>>>>>> A  Code A 968-849-333
>>>>>>>>>> A  --
>>>>>>>>>> A  Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>>>>>> A  Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>>>>>> A  [1][8]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>>> A  [2][9]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>>> A  [10]912-232-9390
>>>>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>>>>> A  This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
>>>>>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
>>>>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
>>>>>>>>>> hereby
>>>>>>>>>> notifiedA  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   copying
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of thisA  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sender thatA  youA  have received this message in error, then delete
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it.AA  Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A  1. [11]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>>>> A  2. mailto:[12]michael at michaelshortt.com
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>>>>>>>>>>   etc.) use
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>>>>>>>>   use the links above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>>>   Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>>>>   Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>>>>   [19]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>   [20]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>   912-232-9390
>>>>>>>>   A
>>>>>>>>   This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
>>>>>>>>   Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
>>>>>>>>   privileged.A  If you are not the intended recipient, you are
>>>>>>>> hereby
>>>>>>>>   notified
>>>>>>>>   that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
>>>>>>>>   communication is strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the sender
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>   you
>>>>>>>>   have received this message in error, then delete it.A  Thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>>>>>   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>>   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>>>>   6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>   7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>>>>>>>   8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>>   9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>   10. tel:912-232-9390
>>>>>>>>   11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>>   12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>   13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>>   15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>>   17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>>   18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>>   19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>>>   20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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