[DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal

cengles at cox.net cengles at cox.net
Fri Jan 8 09:44:54 EST 2016


Dear Kirby,


                Of course!   Less sophisticated "craftsmen" have taken 
another approach to the The Shortest Distance to the Gas Tank by going 
through the sheet metal of the actual body behind the driver's door. 
This is known as the Billy Bob or Lonny Lunchmeat Approach.  This is 
certainly frowned upon and your "out of the box" solution to your 
conundrum of the gas tank installation was a typical flash of genius.


                             Warmest regards, Chuck Engles




On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader wrote:

> Oh my....
> The 'Schrader approach'?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6+
>
>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> Dear Owen,
>>
>>
>>               Yes, you must remove the drive train unless you care to 
>> use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall behind the 
>> driver's seat to remove the gas tank from the front.....
>>
>>
>>               Bad news with the standard approach: You have to remove 
>> the drive train
>>
>>                Good news with the standard approach: the gas tank 
>> removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
>> you'll have access to that nook and cranny
>> you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete 
>> rustproofing and other modifications
>> you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing and 
>> modifications including rebuilding
>> you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
>>
>>
>>                         Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Pantera guys
>>>
>>> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i am 
>>> concerned about the gas tank
>>> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as 
>>> this is the only  piece of the car not reworked by me
>>> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
>>>
>>> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine in 
>>> place
>>> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
>>>
>>> your advice would be appreciated
>>>
>>> best regards owen cooke dublin
>>>
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>>>>    1. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Larry - Ohio Time)
>>>>    2. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (scott black)
>>>>    3. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (Michael Shortt)
>>>>    4. More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re:  Anti Football Run
>>>>       (Guido deTomaso)
>>>>    5. Fwd: DeTomaso post from michaelsavga at gmail.com requires
>>>>       approval (Michael Shortt)
>>>>    6. Re: Gray makes the grade! (Tomas Gunnarsson)
>>>>    7. 2016 Jan POCA BOD Meeting (Michael Shortt)
>>>>    8. Re: Fwd: DeTomaso post from michaelsavga at gmail.com 
>>>> requires
>>>>       approval (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
>>>>    9. Panteras at Le Mans Classic (davek)
>>>>   10. Re: Congratulations (Mike Thomas)
>>>>   11. Re: Congratulations (Mike Reilly)
>>>>   12. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,    was Re:  Anti 
>>>> Football
>>>>       Run (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>>   13. Re: Gray makes the grade! (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>>   14. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re: Anti Football
>>>>       Run (Michael Shortt)
>>>>   15. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,    was Re: Anti 
>>>> Football
>>>>       Run (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>>   16. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
>>>>   17. POCA mart (Paul A Rimov)
>>>>   18. Re: Congratulations (Michael Haney)
>>>>   19. Wheels and Tires, was Re:  More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,
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>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>>> To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'" <detomaso at poca.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>> Message-ID: <1E0F81F4FDBB4E17880A6361501BDFB0 at LarryHPPC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> << criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
>>>>
>>>> Is that even possible??
>>>>
>>>> Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Himes, Terry (397C)
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
>>>> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
>>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>
>>>> He should just give the narration and someone else could write it? 
>>>> Called collaboration.
>>>>
>>>> Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several books. 
>>>> Also collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
>>>> Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.  Highly criticized 
>>>> for putting too much sex into his fiction.
>>>> I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 children  (or is it 
>>>> married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)  All boys.
>>>> Working with him is a hoot.   2 beer story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>>>>   exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>>>>   to contact us!"
>>>>
>>>> Terry W. Himes
>>>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>>> InSight Sequence Team Lead
>>>> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>>>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>>> Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>>>> Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>>>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> From: DeTomaso 
>>>> <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on 
>>>> behalf of "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." 
>>>> <byrdjf at embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com>>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Michael Shortt' 
>>>> <michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
>>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" 
>>>> <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>
>>>> Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent released 
>>>> deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express the desire 
>>>> for a book not documenting the people that are responsible for the 
>>>> Pantera, but could a book be about the development of the Pantera 
>>>> detailing the work of those people, more of an 
>>>> technical/engineering/design documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and how much 
>>>> he enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the only one 
>>>> that could write a book that would be of a highly technical aspect 
>>>> would be T Tjaarda.  If he would undertake such a task, I would 
>>>> hope he could gather the recollection of the engineers he worked 
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item? 
>>>> would I want personalized by Tjaarda.  I would think a reproduction 
>>>> of one of the construction drawings during the design would be my 
>>>> most lusted after.
>>>>
>>>> Could POCA ask if he would?
>>>>
>>>> Joe in NC/5177
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:17 AM
>>>> To: David; Jeff Cobb
>>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>>
>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>
>>>> Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge at the 
>>>> 2016 Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
>>>> He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit on 
>>>> Saturday and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
>>>> Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and attend the 
>>>> Speed Classic races as my guest.
>>>>
>>>> I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we are 
>>>> limited to 12.
>>>>
>>>> I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa, GTS, Pre 
>>>> L, L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race car.
>>>>
>>>> The concours dates are November 5 and 6
>>>> the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
>>>>
>>>> If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also have an 
>>>> opportunity for a sprint race each day.
>>>>
>>>> additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat 124 and 
>>>> MB Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct 29th 
>>>> during the speed classic,  I will be extending this offer to all 
>>>> Detomaso owners as well.
>>>> Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for free that 
>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do, when the 
>>>> new website is up, we will post a registration area.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send info and 
>>>> lots of photos to me.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>> President
>>>> POCA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David 
>>>> <adin at frontier.net<mailto:adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the 330GTC, 
>>>> it
>>>>     featured pop up driving lights. That must have been bugly!
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>     David
>>>>
>>>>     Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
>>>>
>>>>     On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich 
>>>> <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
>>>>     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the circles 
>>>> are for?
>>>>     They are cutouts for something.
>>>>     Jeff
>>>>     6559
>>>>     <image.png>
>>>>     On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David 
>>>> <[2]adin at frontier.net<mailto:adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom for a 
>>>> quiet hour
>>>>       and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
>>>>       [3]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
>>>>       Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
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>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:56:32 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, Bill Moore
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>>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, L GRAY 
>>>> <tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
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>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on 
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>>>>     On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt 
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>>>>  ? yes, on posted minutes
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>>>> ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore 
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>>>> ? ? Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
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>>>> ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>> ? Worked fine for me.
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>>>> ? > On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
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>>>> ? >A? A? A Checked info two times with same result........anybody 
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>>>>    I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on 
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>>>>    On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
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>>>>      On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore 
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>>>>      -----Original Message-----
>>>>      From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>    Ray
>>>>      Pascarella
>>>>      Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
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>>>>      Cc: [4][4]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>      Worked fine for me.
>>>>      Sent from my iPad
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
>>>>    service"
>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody 
>>>>> else
>>>>      get this
>>>>      recording?
>>>>>
>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
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>>>>      16. [30]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>      17. mailto:[31]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>      18. [32]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>      19. [33]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>      20. mailto:[34]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>    _______________________________________________
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>>>>    use the links above.
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>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>    1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>    2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>    3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>    5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>    6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>    7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>    8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>    9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   17. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>   18. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>   19. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>   20. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>   21. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>   22. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>   23. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>   24. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   25. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>   26. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   29. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   31. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   32. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   33. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>   34. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   35. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   36. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
>>>> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>> To: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
>>>>    <detomaso at poca.com>,    L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 
>>>> <CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
>>>> there are no secrets any more.
>>>>
>>>> I will be keeping the membership informed.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black 
>>>>> <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on 
>>>>> the board
>>>>> for a few years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Black
>>>>>
>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
>>>>> www.tprm-usa.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
>>>>> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   yes, on posted minutes
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore 
>>>>> <[1]bill at incendium.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
>>>>>     Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>>>
>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Ray
>>>>>   Pascarella
>>>>>   Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>>>>   To: L GRAY <[3]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>>>   Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>>   Worked fine for me.
>>>>>   Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in 
>>>>>> service"
>>>>>> A  A  A Checked info two times with same result........anybody 
>>>>>> else
>>>>>   get this
>>>>>   recording?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>>>   <[6]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  [7]1 -872-240-3311
>>>>>>> A  Code A 968-849-333
>>>>>>> A  --
>>>>>>> A  Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>>> A  Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>>> A  [1][8]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>> A  [2][9]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>> A  [10]912-232-9390
>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>> A  This email is protected by the Electronic Communications 
>>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be 
>>>>>>> legally
>>>>>>> privileged.AA  If you are not the intended recipient, you are 
>>>>>>> hereby
>>>>>>> notifiedA  that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
>>>>>   copying
>>>>>>> of thisA  communication is strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>   the
>>>>>>> sender thatA  youA  have received this message in error, then 
>>>>>>> delete
>>>>>>> it.AA  Thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  1. [11]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>>> A  2. mailto:[12]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>>>>   etc.) use
>>>>>   the links above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>   Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>>>   Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing 
>>>>> list
>>>>>   [15]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   [16]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>   To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>   use
>>>>>   the links above.
>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>   Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>>>>>   DeTomaso mailing list
>>>>>   [17]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>   To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, 
>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>   use the links above.
>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>>>   Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>   Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>   [19]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>   [20]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>   912-232-9390
>>>>>   A
>>>>>   This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
>>>>>   Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be 
>>>>> legally
>>>>>   privileged.A  If you are not the intended recipient, you are 
>>>>> hereby
>>>>>   notified
>>>>>   that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of 
>>>>> this
>>>>>   communication is strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the 
>>>>> sender that
>>>>>   you
>>>>>   have received this message in error, then delete it.A  Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>>>>   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>>   3. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   5. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>>   6. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>>   7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>>>>   8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>   9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>   10. tel:912-232-9390
>>>>>   11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>   12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>   13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>   15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>   17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>   18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>   19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>   20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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