[DeTomaso] Gas Tank removal
Konrad Szwab
kszwab at gmail.com
Fri Jan 8 09:38:50 EST 2016
I might use the "Schrader approach". I hate those designs, especially the
one in my '92 convertible Firebird.
Simple failure: car sat for 1 year, electric fuel pump died. Of course, it
is inside the tank, in order to replace it one must drop the tank, which
means dropping/cutting the exhaust and dropping a bit the differential.
Soviet military approach will be used like on the case of the other
Firebirds affected by this problem (87, 88, 90): cut foldable access hole
in the trunk, cut metal fuel lines and splice them with fuel hoses so that
the fuel pump can be replaced within half an hour on subsequent future
failures (since Chinese components are SOOO good). Supposedly this approach
is used in Toyota's (designed properly from the beginning and not to rip
off the customer in the long run). But then I do not like Jap cars because
of the shape and political reasons...
Hmmm. How difficult is to cut the firewall and how does one reinforce it
back in order to protect from a potential future explosion ? Does anyone
make a different gas tank that has a shape that allows removal without
engine removal first ?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader <kirbyschrader at mac.com>
wrote:
> Oh my....
> The 'Schrader approach'?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6+
>
> > On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> >
> > Dear Owen,
> >
> >
> > Yes, you must remove the drive train unless you care to
> use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall behind the driver's seat
> to remove the gas tank from the front.....
> >
> >
> > Bad news with the standard approach: You have to remove
> the drive train
> >
> > Good news with the standard approach: the gas tank
> removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
> > you'll have access to that nook and cranny
> > you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
> rustproofing and other modifications
> > you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing and
> modifications including rebuilding
> > you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Pantera guys
> >>
> >> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i am
> concerned about the gas tank
> >> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as this
> is the only piece of the car not reworked by me
> >> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
> >>
> >> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine in
> place
> >> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
> >>
> >> your advice would be appreciated
> >>
> >> best regards owen cooke dublin
> >>
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> >>> << criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
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> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
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> >>> Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent released
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> write a book that would be of a highly technical aspect would be T
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> >>> I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item? would I
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> >>> Could POCA ask if he would?
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> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David <adin at frontier.net<mailto:
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> >>> Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the 330GTC, it
> >>> featured pop up driving lights. That must have been bugly!
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> >>> Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom for a quiet
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> >>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][5]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
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> >>>> A A A Checked info two times with same result........anybody else
> >>> get this
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> >>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
> >>> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> >>> To: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> >>> Cc: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
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> >>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
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> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
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> >>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
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> >>>> yes, on posted minutes
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> >>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore <[1]bill at incendium.com>
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> >>>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
> >>>> Worked fine for me.
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> >>>>>
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I might use the "Schrader approach". I hate those designs, especially
the one in my '92 convertible Firebird.
Simple failure: car sat for 1 year, electric fuel pump died. Of course,
it is inside the tank, in order to replace it one must drop the tank,
which means dropping/cutting the exhaust and dropping a bit the
differential.
Soviet military approach will be used like on the case of the other
Firebirds affected by this problem (87, 88, 90): cut foldable access
hole in the trunk, cut metal fuel lines and splice them with fuel hoses
so that the fuel pump can be replaced within half an hour on subsequent
future failures (since Chinese components are SOOO good). Supposedly
this approach is used in Toyota's (designed properly from the beginning
and not to rip off the customer in the long run). But then I do not
like Jap cars because of the shape and political reasons...
Hmmm. How difficult is to cut the firewall and how does one reinforce
it back in order to protect from a potential future explosion ? Does
anyone make a different gas tank that has a shape that allows removal
without engine removal first ?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Kirby Schrader
<[1]kirbyschrader at mac.com> wrote:
Oh my....
The 'Schrader approach'?
Sent from my iPhone 6+
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 07:03, [2]cengles at cox.net wrote:
>
> Dear Owen,
>
>
>A A A A A A A A Yes, you must remove the drive train unless
you care to use the Schrader approach and cut out the firewall
behind the driver's seat to remove the gas tank from the front.....
>
>
>A A A A A A A A Bad news with the standard approach: You
have to remove the drive train
>
>A A A A A A A A Good news with the standard approach: the
gas tank removal is remarkably easy with the engine out of the way
> you'll have access to that nook and cranny
> you'll have even better access to the engine bay for your complete
rustproofing and other modifications
> you'll have your engine out and accessible for cleaning, fixing
and modifications including rebuilding
> you'll have your ZF out and accessible for cleaning and fixing
>
>
>A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
>>
>> Hello Pantera guys
>>
>> I am finishing off rustproofing a Pantera i bought recently but i
am concerned about the gas tank
>> i would like to take it out and deal with the areas behind it as
this is the onlyA piece of the car not reworked by me
>> i am also concerned baout the tank itself
>>
>> what i want to know is - can the tank be removed with the engine
in place
>> or would i have to take out the engine and or the suspension ??
>>
>> your advice would be appreciated
>>
>> best regards owen cooke dublin
>>
>>> On 07/01/2016 19:00, [3]detomaso-request at poca.com wrote:
>>> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to
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>>> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."
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>>>
>>> Daily Detomaso List Digest
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>A A 1. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Larry - Ohio Time)
>>>A A 2. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (scott black)
>>>A A 3. Re: 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call (Michael Shortt)
>>>A A 4. More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re:A Anti
Football Run
>>>A A A A (Guido deTomaso)
>>>A A 5. Fwd: DeTomaso post from [8]michaelsavga at gmail.com
requires
>>>A A A A approval (Michael Shortt)
>>>A A 6. Re: Gray makes the grade! (Tomas Gunnarsson)
>>>A A 7. 2016 Jan POCA BOD Meeting (Michael Shortt)
>>>A A 8. Re: Fwd: DeTomaso post from [9]michaelsavga at gmail.comA
A requires
>>>A A A A approval (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
>>>A A 9. Panteras at Le Mans Classic (davek)
>>>A A 10. Re: Congratulations (Mike Thomas)
>>>A A 11. Re: Congratulations (Mike Reilly)
>>>A A 12. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,A A was Re:A
Anti Football
>>>A A A A Run ([10]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>A A 13. Re: Gray makes the grade! ([11]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>A A 14. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments, was Re: Anti
Football
>>>A A A A Run (Michael Shortt)
>>>A A 15. Re: More Anti-Footbal Pics, comments,A A was Re: Anti
Football
>>>A A A A Run ([12]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>>A A 16. Re: Tom Tjaarda on Creativity (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
>>>A A 17. POCA mart (Paul A Rimov)
>>>A A 18. Re: Congratulations (Michael Haney)
>>>A A 19. Wheels and Tires, was Re:A More Anti-Footbal Pics,
comments,
>>>A A A A was Re: Anti Football Run (Guido deTomaso)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:07:26 -0500
>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <[13]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>> To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <[14]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: "'Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List'" <[15]detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>> Message-ID: <1E0F81F4FDBB4E17880A6361501BDFB0 at LarryHPPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;A A charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> << criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction >>
>>>
>>> Is that even possible??
>>>
>>> Larry (may as well read about it) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Himes, Terry (397C)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM
>>> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Michael Shortt'
>>> Cc: [17]detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>
>>> He should just give the narration and someone else could write
it? Called collaboration.
>>>
>>> Gentry Lee (JPL) did this with Arthur C. Clark on several books.
Also collaborated with Carl Sagan's 1980 COSMOS.
>>> Gentry is a VERY colorful character here on lab.A Highly
criticized for putting too much sex into his fiction.
>>> I think he has been married 7 times and has 8 childrenA (or is
it married 8 times with 7 children. ;-)A All boys.
>>> Working with him is a hoot.A A 2 beer story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>>>A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
>>>A A to contact us!"
>>>
>>> Terry W. Himes
>>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>> InSight Sequence Team Lead
>>> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>>> Phone: [18](818) 393-6261
>>> Cell:A A A [19](818) 653-8213
>>> Fax:A A A [20](818) 393-3147
>>> [21]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[22]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> ??
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso
<[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:[24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> on behalf of "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
<[25]byrdjf at embarqmail.com<mailto:[26]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:40 AM
>>> To: 'Michael Shortt'
<[27]michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:[28]michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: "[29]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[30]detomaso at poca.com>"
<[31]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[32]detomaso at poca.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>
>>> Trying to compose my thoughts on the review of the recent
released deTomaso book, I was trying to figure out how to express
the desire for a book not documenting the people that are
responsible for the Pantera, but could a book be about the
development of the Pantera detailing the work of those people, more
of an technical/engineering/design documentation.
>>>
>>> Then reading the stories of meetings with Tom Tjaarda and how
much he enjoys sharing the details of his work, I realized the only
one that could write a book that would be of a highly technical
aspect would be T Tjaarda.A If he would undertake such a task, I
would hope he could gather the recollection of the engineers he
worked with.
>>>
>>> I was also thinking if I attend Hilton Head event, what ?item?
would I want personalized by Tjaarda.A I would think a reproduction
of one of the construction drawings during the design would be my
most lusted after.
>>>
>>> Could POCA ask if he would?
>>>
>>> Joe in NC/5177
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[33]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Shortt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:17 AM
>>> To: David; Jeff Cobb
>>> Cc: [34]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[35]detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda on Creativity
>>>
>>> Good Morning,
>>>
>>> Tom has accepted my invitation to be a Special Guest Judge at
the 2016 Hiltion Head Island Motoring Festival and Concours.
>>> He will be hosting and judging a special Detomaso exhibit on
Saturday and be a Special Guest Judge on Sunday at the Concours.
>>> Additionally, he has agreed to come one week early and attend
the Speed Classic races as my guest.
>>>
>>> I will be seeking supreme examples of all Detomaso cars, we are
limited to 12.
>>>
>>> I would like a authentic factory racer, a GT5-S, a Targa, GTS,
Pre L, L, L GTS, Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga and a Isis Race
car.
>>>
>>> The concours dates are November 5 and 6
>>> the spped classic will be Oct 28,29 and 30.
>>>
>>> If I can arrange enough Pantera Race cars, we will also have an
opportunity for a sprint race each day.
>>>
>>> additionally, I have invited the Aston Martin Lagonda, Fiat 124
and MB Pagoda owners to attend the car corral on Saturday, Oct 29th
during the speed classic,A I will be extending this offer to all
Detomaso owners as well.
>>> Drive your aforementioned car and get into the race for free
that day.
>>>
>>> Savannah is lovely in fall, if you can attend, please do, when
the new website is up, we will post a registration area.
>>>
>>> If you have a car suitable for the concours, please send info
and lots of photos to me.
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>> President
>>> POCA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, David
<[36]adin at frontier.net<mailto:[37]adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>A A A Jeff, 14 of these cars were made. Contemporary to the
330GTC, it
>>>A A A featured pop up driving lights. That must have been
bugly!
>>>
>>>A A A Cheers,
>>>
>>>A A A David
>>>
>>>A A A Sent from my little handheld gizmo.
>>>
>>>A A A On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[1][38]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[39]jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
>>>A A A wrote:
>>>
>>>A A A Check out the nose of the Ferrari. I wonder what the
circles are for?
>>>A A A They are cutouts for something.
>>>A A A Jeff
>>>A A A 6559
>>>A A A <image.png>
>>>A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:52 PM, David
<[2][40]adin at frontier.net<mailto:[41]adin at frontier.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>A A A A Interesting article. Wish I could sit down with Tom
for a quiet hour
>>>A A A A and yak about this stuff. Enjoy.
>>>A A A
A [3][42]http://www.velocetoday.com/tom-tjaarda-on-creativity/
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael L. Shortt
>>> Savannah, Georgia
>>> [54]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>
[55]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[56]michael at michaelshortt.com>
>>> [57]912-232-9390
>>>
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Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
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of this communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the
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>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:56:32 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: scott black <[61]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Michael Shortt <[62]michaelsavga at gmail.com>, Bill Moore
>>>A A <[63]bill at incendium.com>
>>> Cc: "[64]detomaso at poca.com" <[65]detomaso at poca.com>, L GRAY
<[66]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>> Message-ID:
>>>A A
<[67]1503538904.927401.1452110192674.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been on
the board for a few years.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Scott Black
>>> ?TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
[68]www.tprm-usa.com
>>>
>>>A A A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
<[69]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A ? yes, on posted minutes
>>>
>>> ? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][70]bill at incendium.com>
>>> ? wrote:
>>>
>>> ? ? I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
>>> ? ? Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>
>>> ? -----Original Message-----
>>> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][71]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of Ray
>>> ? Pascarella
>>> ? Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>> ? To: L GRAY <[3][72]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>> ? Cc: [4][73]detomaso at poca.com
>>> ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>> ? Worked fine for me.
>>> ? Sent from my iPad
>>> ? > On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][74]tipo874a at msn.com>
wrote:
>>> ? >
>>> ? > I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
service"
>>> ? >A? A? A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
>>> ? get this
>>> ? recording?
>>> ? >
>>> ? > Leslie A. Gray
>>> ? >
>>> ? >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>> ? <[6][75]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>> ? wrote:
>>> ? >>
>>> ? >>A? [7]1 -[76]872-240-3311
>>> ? >>A? Code A 968-849-333
>>> ? >>A? --
>>> ? >>A? Michael L. Shortt
>>> ? >>A? Savannah, Georgia
>>> ? >>A? [1][8][77]www.michaelshortt.com
>>> ? >>A? [2][9][78]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> ? >>A? [10]912-232-9390
>>> ? >>A? A
>>> ? >>A? This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>> ? >> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
>>> ? >> privileged.AA? If you are not the intended recipient, you
are hereby
>>> ? >> notifiedA? that any retention, dissemination, distribution
or
>>> ? copying
>>> ? >> of thisA? communication is strictly prohibited.AA? Please
reply to
>>> ? the
>>> ? >> sender thatA? youA? have received this message in error,
then delete
>>> ? >> it.AA? Thank you
>>> ? >>
>>> ? >> References
>>> ? >>
>>> ? >>A? 1. [11][79]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>> ? >>A? 2. mailto:[12][80]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> ? >> _______________________________________________
>>> ? >>
>>> ? >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>>> ? [15][83]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>>> ? --
>>> ? Michael L. Shortt
>>> ? Savannah, Georgia
>>> ? [19][87]www.michaelshortt.com
>>> ? [20][88]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> ? [89]912-232-9390
>>> ? A
>>> ? This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>> ? Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
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>>> ? notified
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>>> ? communication is strictly prohibited.A? Please reply to the
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>>> ? have received this message in error, then delete it.A? Thank
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>>> References
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>>> ? 1. mailto:[90]bill at incendium.com
>>> ? 2. mailto:[91]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>> ? 3. mailto:[92]tipo874a at msn.com
>>> ? 4. mailto:[93]detomaso at poca.com
>>> ? 5. mailto:[94]tipo874a at msn.com
>>> ? 6. mailto:[95]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>> ? 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>> ? 8. [96]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>> ? 9. mailto:[97]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> ? 10. tel:[98]912-232-9390
>>> ? 11. [99]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>> ? 12. mailto:[100]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> ? 13. mailto:[101]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> ? 14. [102]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> ? 15. mailto:[103]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> ? 16. [104]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> ? 17. mailto:[105]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> ? 18. [106]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> ? 19. [107]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>> ? 20. mailto:[108]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>
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>>>A A -------------- next part --------------
>>>A A I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not
been on the
>>>A A board for a few years.
>>>A A Thanks,
>>>A A Scott Black
>>>
>>>A A TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing
Acceleration
>>>A A [111]www.tprm-usa.com
>>>A A On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>A A <[112]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>A A A yes, on posted minutes
>>>A A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][1][113]bill at incendium.com>
>>>A A A wrote:
>>>A A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
>>>A A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>A A A -----Original Message-----
>>>A A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[2][2][114]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>A A Ray
>>>A A A Pascarella
>>>A A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>>A A A To: L GRAY <[3][3][115]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>A A A Cc: [4][4][116]detomaso at poca.com
>>>A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>A A A Worked fine for me.
>>>A A A Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY
<[5][5][117]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
>>>A A service"
>>>> AA AA A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
>>>A A A get this
>>>A A A recording?
>>>>
>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>A A A <[6][6][118]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>A A A wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> AA [7]1 -[119]872-240-3311
>>>>> AA Code A 968-849-333
>>>>> AA --
>>>>> AA Michael L. Shortt
>>>>> AA Savannah, Georgia
>>>>> AA [1][8][120]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>> AA [2][9][7][121]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>> AA [10]912-232-9390
>>>>> AA A
>>>>> AA This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
>>>>> privileged.AAA If you are not the intended recipient, you are
>>>A A hereby
>>>>> notifiedAA that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
>>>A A A copying
>>>>> of thisAA communication is strictly prohibited.AAA Please
reply to
>>>A A A the
>>>>> sender thatAA youAA have received this message in error,
then
>>>A A delete
>>>>> it.AAA Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>> AA 1. [11][8][122]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>> AA 2. mailto:[12][9][123]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>>>A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>>>A A A [17][14][128]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>>>A A A To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.)
>>>A A A use the links above.
>>>A A A --
>>>A A A Michael L. Shortt
>>>A A A Savannah, Georgia
>>>A A A [19][130]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>A A A [20][16][131]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A A [132]912-232-9390
>>>A A A A
>>>A A A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>>A A A Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may
be legally
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>>>A A A communication is strictly prohibited.AA Please reply to
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>>>A A A you
>>>A A A have received this message in error, then delete it.AA
Thank you
>>>A A References
>>>A A A 1. mailto:[17][133]bill at incendium.com
>>>A A A 2. mailto:[18][134]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>A A A 3. mailto:[19][135]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A A 4. mailto:[20][136]detomaso at poca.com
>>>A A A 5. mailto:[21][137]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A A 6. mailto:[22][138]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>A A A 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>>A A A 8. [23][139]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A A 9. mailto:[24][140]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A A 10. tel:[141]912-232-9390
>>>A A A 11. [25][142]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A A 12. mailto:[26][143]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A A 13. mailto:[27][144]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A A 14.
[28][145]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A A 15. mailto:[29][146]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A A 16.
[30][147]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A A 17. mailto:[31][148]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A A 18.
[32][149]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A A 19. [33][150]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A A 20. mailto:[34][151]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A _______________________________________________
>>>A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>>>A A [35][152]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>>>A A To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.)
>>>A A use the links above.
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>>A A 1. mailto:[154]bill at incendium.com
>>>A A 2. mailto:[155]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>A A 3. mailto:[156]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A 4. mailto:[157]detomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 5. mailto:[158]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A 6. mailto:[159]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>A A 7. mailto:[160]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 8. [161]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A 9. mailto:[162]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 10. mailto:[163]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 11. [164]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 12. mailto:[165]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 13. [166]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 14. mailto:[167]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 15. [168]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 16. mailto:[169]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 17. mailto:[170]bill at incendium.com
>>>A A 18. mailto:[171]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>A A 19. mailto:[172]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A 20. mailto:[173]detomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 21. mailto:[174]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>A A 22. mailto:[175]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>A A 23. [176]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A 24. mailto:[177]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 25. [178]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A 26. mailto:[179]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 27. mailto:[180]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 28. [181]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 29. mailto:[182]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 30. [183]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 31. mailto:[184]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 32. [185]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>A A 33. [186]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>A A 34. mailto:[187]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>A A 35. mailto:[188]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>A A 36. [189]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:07:40 -0500
>>> From: Michael Shortt <[190]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>> To: scott black <[191]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Bill Moore <[192]bill at incendium.com>,
"[193]detomaso at poca.com"
>>>A A <[194]detomaso at poca.com>,A A L GRAY
<[195]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>> Message-ID:
>>>A A
<CAEWtxWpCZzt-0o++-voUs6BbbF=[196]bKzfqscK09A1C-WS0GhewtQ at mail.gmail
.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I sent it to the forum Scott,
>>> there are no secrets any more.
>>>
>>> I will be keeping the membership informed.
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, scott black
<[197]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure why I was copied on this email. I have not been
on the board
>>>> for a few years.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Scott Black
>>>>
>>>> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
>>>> [198]www.tprm-usa.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:46 PM, Michael Shortt <
>>>> [199]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A A yes, on posted minutes
>>>>
>>>>A A On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bill Moore
<[1][200]bill at incendium.com>
>>>>A A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A A A I'm in listening, no problem getting in.
>>>>A A A Will there be posted minutes after the meeting ?
>>>>
>>>>A A -----Original Message-----
>>>>A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][201]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
On Behalf Of Ray
>>>>A A Pascarella
>>>>A A Sent: January-05-16 7:21 PM
>>>>A A To: L GRAY <[3][202]tipo874a at msn.com>
>>>>A A Cc: [4][203]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 Jan POCA BOD Call
>>>>A A Worked fine for me.
>>>>A A Sent from my iPad
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, L GRAY <[5][204]tipo874a at msn.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep getting a recording that "this phone number is not in
service"
>>>>> AA AA A Checked info two times with same
result........anybody else
>>>>A A get this
>>>>A A recording?
>>>>>
>>>>> Leslie A. Gray
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Michael Shortt
>>>>A A <[6][205]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>>A A wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA [7]1 -[206]872-240-3311
>>>>>> AA Code A 968-849-333
>>>>>> AA --
>>>>>> AA Michael L. Shortt
>>>>>> AA Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>> AA [1][8][207]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>>> AA [2][9][208]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>> AA [10]912-232-9390
>>>>>> AA A
>>>>>> AA This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>>>>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
>>>>>> privileged.AAA If you are not the intended recipient, you
are hereby
>>>>>> notifiedAA that any retention, dissemination, distribution
or
>>>>A A copying
>>>>>> of thisAA communication is strictly prohibited.AAA Please
reply to
>>>>A A the
>>>>>> sender thatAA youAA have received this message in error,
then delete
>>>>>> it.AAA Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> References
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA 1. [11][209]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>>> AA 2. mailto:[12][210]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
list
>>>>>> [13][211]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A [14][212]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe,
>>>>A A etc.) use
>>>>A A the links above.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>A A _______________________________________________
>>>>A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
mailing list
>>>>A A [15][213]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A [16][214]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>A A To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.)
>>>>A A use
>>>>A A the links above.
>>>>A A _______________________________________________
>>>>A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>>>>A A DeTomaso mailing list
>>>>A A [17][215]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A [18][216]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>A A To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.)
>>>>A A use the links above.
>>>>
>>>>A A --
>>>>A A Michael L. Shortt
>>>>A A Savannah, Georgia
>>>>A A [19][217]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>>A A [20][218]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>A A [219]912-232-9390
>>>>A A A
>>>>A A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
>>>>A A Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
>>>>A A privileged.AA If you are not the intended recipient, you
are hereby
>>>>A A notified
>>>>A A that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying
of this
>>>>A A communication is strictly prohibited.AA Please reply to
the sender that
>>>>A A you
>>>>A A have received this message in error, then delete it.AA
Thank you
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>A A 1. mailto:[220]bill at incendium.com
>>>>A A 2. mailto:[221]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>A A 3. mailto:[222]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>A A 4. mailto:[223]detomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A 5. mailto:[224]tipo874a at msn.com
>>>>A A 6. mailto:[225]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>A A 7. tel:1%20-872-240-3311
>>>>A A 8. [226]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>A A 9. mailto:[227]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>A A 10. tel:912-232-9390
>>>>A A 11. [228]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>A A 12. mailto:[229]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>A A 13. mailto:[230]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A 14. [231]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>A A 15. mailto:[232]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A 16. [233]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>A A 17. mailto:[234]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>A A 18. [235]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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