[DeTomaso] New observation, was Re: Ignition switch

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Sun Jan 3 14:50:08 EST 2016


Upon your advice, I bought some of that stuff.  I plan to use it this weekend after I return from Tampa.


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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New observation, was Re: Ignition switch

First thing I would do before taking anything apart is squirt some Houdini lock lubricant in the switch.


I had the same type of problem and the lube loosened everything up.


Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net<mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>>
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Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2016 11:42 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] New observation, was Re:  Ignition switch


   I didn't come close to addressing this problem nor adding relays before
   Friday's event as was the plan.
   But I did realize, once I get the key past accessory to ignition,
   sometimes using a small crescent wrench now, it easily goes back and
   forth from ignition to accessory and back again.  Only going back to
   lock restarts the sequence of near impossible to get from accessory to
   ignition.
   Not going to solve this problem on-line, but wonder if this proves
   anything, electrical switch vs. mechanical tumbler thing.
   Thanks,
   GD
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net<mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>>
   To: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
   Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:46 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition switch
     "in the antipodes."
     In the where ?!?!
     Anyway, for a while now my ignition key moves easily from lock to
   accessory, but is very difficult to move to ignition, then easy to
   move
    to start.  I mean, vice grips difficult to move from accessory to
     ignition.
     But very occasionally moves easily.
     Planning to re-route the current around the switch with relays, but
     thinking now the switch itself may be already damaged.
     Is this a common symptom?
     Thanks,
   GD
       __________________________________________________________________
  From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
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     Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:53 PM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition switch
       In a message dated 11/11/15 23 46 47, [1][4]edducati at mac.com<mailto:edducati at mac.com>
   writes:
         My friend in New Zealand needs an ignition switch for his 1974
         Pantera Euro spec GTS. Does anybody have one with the key. Please
         let me know as soon as possible and what price you want and how
     much
         for shipping to New Zealand.
       >>>You're talking about taking coals to Newcastle.
       The Pantera ignition switch is lifted directly from period European
       Fords (Escort, '71-'73 Capri etc.) which are comparatively rare in
     the
   US, but were and are common in the antipodes.
       There should be plenty of sources of parts for those cars there,
       including the ignition switch.  They cost a fortune from Pantera
       sources....
       Mike
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   Upon your advice, I bought some of that stuff.  I plan to use it this
   weekend after I return from Tampa.

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Tom Shinrock
   via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
   Reply-To: Tom Shinrock <[4]tmshinro at aol.com>
   Date: Sunday, January 3, 2016 10:05 AM
   To: "[5]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net" <[6]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>,
   "[7]detomaso at poca.com" <[8]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New observation, was Re: Ignition switch

   First thing I would do before taking anything apart is squirt some
   Houdini lock lubricant in the switch.
   I had the same type of problem and the lube loosened everything up.
   Tom
   5186
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Guido deTomaso <[9]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
   To: Guido deTomaso <[10]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>; detomaso
   <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2016 11:42 am
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New observation, was Re:  Ignition switch
      I didn't come close to addressing this problem nor adding relays
   before
      Friday's event as was the plan.
      But I did realize, once I get the key past accessory to ignition,
      sometimes using a small crescent wrench now, it easily goes back and
      forth from ignition to accessory and back again.  Only going back to
      lock restarts the sequence of near impossible to get from accessory
   to
      ignition.
      Not going to solve this problem on-line, but wonder if this proves
      anything, electrical switch vs. mechanical tumbler thing.
      Thanks,
      GD
        __________________________________________________________________
      From: Guido deTomaso <[12]guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
      To: "[13]detomaso at poca.com" <[14]detomaso at poca.com>
      Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:46 AM
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition switch
        "in the antipodes."
        In the where ?!?!
        Anyway, for a while now my ignition key moves easily from lock to
      accessory, but is very difficult to move to ignition, then easy to
      move
       to start.  I mean, vice grips difficult to move from accessory to
        ignition.
        But very occasionally moves easily.
        Planning to re-route the current around the switch with relays,
   but
        thinking now the switch itself may be already damaged.
        Is this a common symptom?
        Thanks,
      GD

   __________________________________________________________________
     From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[1][15]detomaso at poca.com>
        To: [2][16]edducati at mac.com; [3][17]detomaso at poca.com
        Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:53 PM
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition switch
          In a message dated 11/11/15 23 46 47, [1][4][18]edducati at mac.com
      writes:
            My friend in New Zealand needs an ignition switch for his 1974
            Pantera Euro spec GTS. Does anybody have one with the key.
   Please
            let me know as soon as possible and what price you want and
   how
        much
            for shipping to New Zealand.
          >>>You're talking about taking coals to Newcastle.
          The Pantera ignition switch is lifted directly from period
   European
          Fords (Escort, '71-'73 Capri etc.) which are comparatively rare
   in
        the
      US, but were and are common in the antipodes.
          There should be plenty of sources of parts for those cars there,
          including the ignition switch.  They cost a fortune from Pantera
          sources....
          Mike
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