[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 140, Issue 29
Larry - Ohio Time
Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Mon Feb 29 10:18:11 EST 2016
Owen,
One thing I do is to remove the spark plug wire on one cylinder at a time to
see if the noise changes. This will identify rod or piston noise more then a
lifter. But it is an EZ starting point.
By removing the valve cover you will see the extra clearance/play in the
rocker if that is what is making the noise.
Larry - Cleveland
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Owen Cooke
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:13 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 140, Issue 29
Guys
help please with hydraulic lifters
I have a 1972 std pantera its got 4 dot heads and alum intake
manifold and 4 bolt mains
i rolled it over for 2 months while rust proffing it with engine still
in it
now its finished and back on road but a rattle from one head seems to
be a lifter and it is somtimes intermittent but quite loud
what advice can you give me - i never saw a hydraulic lifter as we
have all overhead cams or for old stuff all are solid lifters
how should i go about checking the exact source of the noise and
assuming it is one hydraulic lifter what do i do to repair it ??
your advice would be much appreciated
owen cooke dublin Ireland
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:18:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: GR2835 at comcast.net
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] more advertising the brand
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> Check out the fastest cars from the past..
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> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 18:33:00 +1300
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: GR2835 at comcast.net
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] more advertising the brand
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>> On 28/02/2016, at 18:18, GR2835 at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> Check out the fastest cars from the past..
>>
[1]http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/car-and-driver-tested-the
>> -quickest-cars-from-the-1950s-to-today/ss-BBpnjUv#image=28
>> grinillinois
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/car-and-driver-tested-the-quickes
t-cars-from-the-1950s-to-today/ss-BBpnjUv#image=28
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> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 13:56:00 +0100
> From: "Freddy Henningsen" <fredhen at online.no>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
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> This is certainly discussed 1000 times. but can someone point me in the
> right direction for changing brake booster. I want one that is bolt on.
not
> any modification .. I have had bad brakes all the time and today I heard a
> whistling sound that was quite powerful from the booster. So it must
surely
> be the explanation for bad brakes? where to buy? what should I buy? and
any
> idea what the cost?
> adds a picture of the one I have.
> thank you so much in advance for tips:)
>
> Freddy
> 7207
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 07:19:18 -0600
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'Freddy Henningsen'" <fredhen at online.no>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
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> Dear Freddy,
>
>
> From what little I know, there is no new replacement bolt-on
for
> the stock Pantera vacuum brake booster. My brother went through this
> recently, and the usual arrangement is to buy a rebuilt unit from Pantera
> Performance Center, in his case, or another vendor. You send in your old
> unit and then get the rebuilt unit.
>
> There might be an obscure aftermarket bolt in unit, but I
can't
> recall hearing about one.
>
> I do know of a few people who have done without the brake
> booster, but it does require (I am told) further modifications and changes
> to the brake system, primarily, the master cylinder.
>
>
> My recommendation would be to check with Pantera Performance
> Center.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Freddy
> Henningsen
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
>
> This is certainly discussed 1000 times. but can someone point me in the
> right direction for changing brake booster. I want one that is bolt on.
not
> any modification .. I have had bad brakes all the time and today I heard a
> whistling sound that was quite powerful from the booster. So it must
surely
> be the explanation for bad brakes? where to buy? what should I buy? and
any
> idea what the cost?
> adds a picture of the one I have.
> thank you so much in advance for tips:)
>
> Freddy
> 7207
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, 'Freddy Henningsen'
> <fredhen at online.no>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
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> I got mine there also.........no problems.
> ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be !
)
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: 'Freddy Henningsen' <fredhen at online.no>; detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
>
> Dear Freddy,
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? From what little I know, there is no new replacement bolt-on
for
> the stock Pantera vacuum brake booster.? My brother went through this
> recently, and the usual arrangement is to buy a rebuilt unit from Pantera
> Performance Center, in his case, or another vendor.? You send in your old
> unit and then get the rebuilt unit.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? There might be an obscure aftermarket bolt in unit, but I can't
> recall hearing about one.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? I do know of a few people who have done without the brake
> booster, but it does require (I am told) further modifications and changes
> to the brake system, primarily, the master cylinder.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? My recommendation would be to check with Pantera Performance
> Center.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Freddy
> Henningsen
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
>
> This is certainly discussed 1000 times. but can someone point me in the
> right direction for changing brake booster. I want one that is bolt on.
not
> any modification .. I have had bad brakes all the time and today I heard a
> whistling sound that was quite powerful from the booster. So it must
surely
> be the explanation for bad brakes? where to buy? what should I buy? and
any
> idea what the cost?
> adds a picture of the one I have.
> thank you so much in advance for tips:)
>
> Freddy
> 7207
>
>
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> I got mine there also.........no problems.
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: 'Freddy Henningsen' <fredhen at online.no>; detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
> Dear Freddy,
> From what little I know, there is no new replacement
> bolt-on for
> the stock Pantera vacuum brake booster. My brother went through this
> recently, and the usual arrangement is to buy a rebuilt unit from
> Pantera
> Performance Center, in his case, or another vendor. You send in your
> old
> unit and then get the rebuilt unit.
> There might be an obscure aftermarket bolt in unit, but I
> can't
> recall hearing about one.
> I do know of a few people who have done without the brake
> booster, but it does require (I am told) further modifications and
> changes
> to the brake system, primarily, the master cylinder.
> My recommendation would be to check with Pantera Performance
> Center.
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Freddy
> Henningsen
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
> This is certainly discussed 1000 times. but can someone point me in
the
> right direction for changing brake booster. I want one that is bolt
on.
> not
> any modification .. I have had bad brakes all the time and today I
> heard a
> whistling sound that was quite powerful from the booster. So it must
> surely
> be the explanation for bad brakes? where to buy? what should I buy?
and
> any
> idea what the cost?
> adds a picture of the one I have.
> thank you so much in advance for tips:)
> Freddy
> 7207
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> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:50:36 -0500
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
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> I got mine from Precision Proformance. Jack DeRyke has a description
below
>
> In a message dated 6/15/11 12:16:59 PM, rob at dumoulins.net writes:
>
>> J, Can you be more specific? Is the conversion written up somewhere?
>>
> Not that I remember, but installation only consisted of unbolting the
> stocker, bolting the Byars conversion in its place, and fabricating two
new
> brake
> lines to fit the GM master cylinder. The Byars conversion involved them
> chopping the 4-stud GM mounts off the booster, welding three new metric
> studs
> in place to match the original Pantera mount, then gold-alodine coating.
> Uses
> stock nuts, washers and the stock pedal pushrod. It fit but was close on
> our early L where the inner wheelwell edge snuggles up to the brake
booster
> cannister. On some cars with heavily upholstered front trunks, this is the
> only area where you might need a small dent. The aluminum GM master
cylinder
> has a built-in 2 lb pressure-hold valve to the front calipers, saving
the
> cost of adding one.
> The two fabricated lines take SAE flairs, not Euro bubble-flairs; they
need
> to be fabricated because the two outlets are both on the inner fender side
> of the master cylinder, which does NOT protrude at an odd angle nor stick
> further into the front trunk space than stock. Finally, paired with
certain
> clutch master cylinder adaptions, the slightly larger dia. brake booster
> gets
> very close, and a little file-fitting might be needed. My aluminum Girling
> clutch master fit unaltered as did a stock iron MS, but there are many
such
> combinations possible.
> Incidently, it's been in our Pantera for 6 yrs; 2 yrs after I installed
it,
> the plastic vacuum exhaust valve housing cracked for unknown reasons
> (protrudes into the cabin thru a big hole; I might have done it myself)
and
> Byars
> overhauled it free of charge. GOOD service! FWIW- J DeRyke
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:23 AM, B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I got mine there also.........no problems.
>>
>> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be
>> ! )
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> To: 'Freddy Henningsen' <fredhen at online.no>; detomaso at poca.com
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
>> Dear Freddy,
>> From what little I know, there is no new replacement
>> bolt-on for
>> the stock Pantera vacuum brake booster. My brother went through this
>> recently, and the usual arrangement is to buy a rebuilt unit from
>> Pantera
>> Performance Center, in his case, or another vendor. You send in your
>> old
>> unit and then get the rebuilt unit.
>> There might be an obscure aftermarket bolt in unit, but I
>> can't
>> recall hearing about one.
>> I do know of a few people who have done without the brake
>> booster, but it does require (I am told) further modifications and
>> changes
>> to the brake system, primarily, the master cylinder.
>> My recommendation would be to check with Pantera
Performance
>> Center.
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> Freddy
>> Henningsen
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:56 AM
>> To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Breakes booster
>> This is certainly discussed 1000 times. but can someone point me in
the
>> right direction for changing brake booster. I want one that is bolt
on.
>> not
>> any modification .. I have had bad brakes all the time and today I
>> heard a
>> whistling sound that was quite powerful from the booster. So it must
>> surely
>> be the explanation for bad brakes? where to buy? what should I buy?
and
>> any
>> idea what the cost?
>> adds a picture of the one I have.
>> thank you so much in advance for tips:)
>> Freddy
>> 7207
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