[DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Feb 26 19:25:10 EST 2016 

Amen brother!

Mike

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On Feb 26, 2016, at 13:58, James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Well stated Julian .
>   From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   To: michaelsavga at gmail.com; cengles at cox.net
>   Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 16:25:53 +0000
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry
>   CC: detomaso at poca.com; garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
> Well I don't know the details of what Chuck was offered to integrate his registr
> y with the new POCA one, but I am sympathetic to his stance given that he's put
> years of hard work, long hours and money into something that no one else wanted
> to take on for the longest time. He also provides free access to that registry f
> or the simple task of a submission, a tactic which has allowed him to amass well
> over 4,000 entries. POCA has what, less than 1,000 members to enter their detai
> ls? I think it will be some time before you can categorically state that 'yours'
> will be better, and as you state it "will be for the other registry members use
> only" that predicates a POCA membership, thus to say it is not for monetary gai
> n is a contradiction in terms.
> 
> 
> The Shelby American Automobile Club is licensed from Carrol Shelby, they don't t
> heoretically own anything and it took law suits to get it all straightened out.
> We are lucky that Santiago De Tomaso or whoever owns the De Tomaso marque never
> chooses to get involved!
> 
> 
> I respectfully disagree that POCA needs to own the registry and it hasn't seen t
> hat need for the past 45 years. If your vision is truly to break down divisions
> within the marque then you I recommend you embrace what Chuck and others before
> him have achieved and not be bickering over who owns what and is bigger and bett
> er. The Provamo registry is currently THE foremost collection of Pantera informa
> tion anywhere, period and should be recognized as such.
> 
> 
> Don't forget this is an open forum not POCA, if you want the forum that 'needed'
> to be owned by POCA it's on their website and the last post was 3 months ago...
> .. so I will continue to us my time how I see fit to voice my opinions, even if
> I am the 1% minority, when everyone conforms it is no longer a democracy.
> 
> 
> Julian
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: Charles Engles
> Cc: Julian Kift; detomaso at poca.com; Garth Rodericks
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry
> 
> Chuck was asked ( 4 times ) and declined to work with us or integrate his with o
> urs.
> 
> Furthermore, ours will be much better, with far more information ( if you choose
> to upload yours )
> 
> The Registry needs to be owned by POCA and carry on long after we are all dead,
> 
> Shelby owns theirs, as does every marque club.
> 
> It is not a business, it is not a money maker, and it will be for the other regi
> stry members to use only.
> 
> Things are going to be changing for the better, perhaps if everyone would use th
> eir time
> 
> to improve the process ( like offer items to include ), it would go better.
> 
> I can tell you that once the final version comes out for members to use, it prob
> ably won't be changed
> 
> for two reasons, 1) those whom have already submitted their car(s) out would hav
> e to do it again, 2) the expense
> 
> of making those changes.  I am not going to punish those who comply and contribu
> te, nor am I going to be fiscally irresponsible.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:27 AM, <cengles at cox.net<mailto:cengles at cox.net>> wrote
> :
> Dear Julian:  Precisely.        Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> 
> You could add a link to Provamo.com and save a lot of repetition work, just sayi
> ng....
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on
> behalf of marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith at sbc
> global.net>>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry
> 
> You could add Pushbutton!
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 2/25/16, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso
> @poca.com>> wrote:
> 
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry
> To: "DeTomaso Mail List" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 10:52 AM
> 
>    For all the
> categories, I'd start with a hierarchical organization and
>    add the ability to denote stock and
> modified.  A simple checkbox for
>    "Modified" in each area could allow owners
> to enter the car's original
>    configuration as well as the current
> configuration, such as in the
>    example of a car that has since been
> winged and flared and listed as a
>    Gr4. Just a thought
>    Year
>    -->Model:
>        --> pre-L
>        --> L
>        --> GTS
>        --> Gr4
>        --> Gr5
>        --> GT5S
>        --> etc.
>    Cheers!
>    Garth
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