[DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
Sean Korb
spkorb at gmail.com
Wed Feb 3 07:35:20 EST 2016
This is really the rub. Facebook is not about you. It's not about
Panteras and it is not about distributing information. Any benefit is a
side effect. They want money and the advertisers not only contribute
through media buys, the information and analytics can be monetized and sold
to other organizations that would also like money.
I'm an avid (maybe rabid) Facebook user and the Detomaso presence on FB is
entertaining and rewarding. I'm glad it is there. But you cannot depend
on it as a way to distribute information reliably. FB needs to know what
you like but if you "like" something that doesn't mean you get more of it.
It means that they will try to guess (though their analytics) what else you
will "like" and test your answers to see if it fits a model. If they guess
right by presenting the different items and you *do* "like" or "click" or
"comment" or "share" again, it doesn't mean you get more of it. They want
to *keep*building*the*model*.
In a very spooky coincidence, I posted this methodology on FB to my friends
and I got a FB recruitment letter 6 hours later (I'm a High Performance
Computing professional). Yiiiikes!
I love FB and I will continue to use it and I encourage a FB presence for
all POCA and other DeTomaso clubs. But do not *rely* on it for
distributing information.
sean
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> The real question is how to measure the Facebook effect. A simple and
> meaningful metric is to track new POCA members by asking why they
> joined and where did they find out about the club. If Facebook gets a
> new member, that can monetized to justify its costs. A second metric
> would be it's effect on Pantera prices. That would be a tough
> correlation to analyze.
> Hits are not a real measure of performance until we can start to sell
> something through Facebook. Even then it would be a tenuous
> connection.A
> So it comes down to the entertainment factor. At first it is
> entertaining; eventually a nuisance? Your call.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Julian Kift
> <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be
> scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
> I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3
> notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone
> comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living
> inside an Alzheimer's dream!
> And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation =
> causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras
> on FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be
> worth millions if that's the case.
> In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB
> posts and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a
> photo and feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any
> due diligence, just because it's on FB it must be true right!
> And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on
> any site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed
> up with ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
> Julian
> ________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
> <[3]edducati at mac.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
> To: Charles McCall
> Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
> I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-)
> I'm the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.
> Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of
> hot rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts
> daily but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across
> several Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your own
> page. There are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You can
> limit the number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to which
> ever pages you want to.
> I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with
> Pantera stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and
> recognition to our cars and has increased value.
> It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck
> I didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of
> Junika Okada and the awesome work he does over there.
> The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already
> and to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page,
> this has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and
> get people interested. All the pages are there already (for the
> chapters)
> So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and
> pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try
> not to cross post so much. ;-)
> Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that
> love this car.
> We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time...
> @pocausa
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> > On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall
> <[5]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> > Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for
> communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or
> coordination on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a
> fair amount of activity. If you have a message that you want to make
> sure that everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a half-dozen
> pages. People who subscribe to those pages get the same message a
> half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and it will
> only get worse if people keep generating new FB Pantera pages.
> >
> > It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fA^3rums. Most people would
> belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them
> all. I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world
> into ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <[6]edducati at mac.com>
> wrote:
> >>A A Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for
> every chapter
> >>A A of POCA.
> >>
> >>A A Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you
> don't
> >>A A already have one, because your missing out on some really
> good Pantera
> >>A A stuff...
> >>
> >>A A I have made all these pages so far:
> >>
> >>A A POCA Main FB page
> >>
> >>A A
> [1][7]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
> >>
> >>A A SDP FB Page
> >>
> >>A A [2][8]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
> >>
> >>A A Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
> >>
> >>A A
> [3][9]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650
> 626227
> >>A A 6?ref=hl
> >>
> >>A A AZ Panteras
> >>
> >>A A [4][10]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
> >>
> >>A A Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
> >>
> >>A A [5][11]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
> >>
> >>A A POCA Main Group Page
> >>
> >>A A
> [6][12]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
> >>
> >>A A POCA Fun Rally Page
> >>
> >>A A [7][13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
> >>
> >>A A and here is my personal page:
> >>
> >>A A [8][14]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> >>
> >>A A I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
> >>
> >>A A Other pages:
> >>
> >>A A Foothill Panteras - Secret group
> >>
> >>A A [9][15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
> >>
> >>A A Panteras Northwest
> >>
> >>A A [10][16]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
> >>
> >>A A NY Panteras
> >>
> >>A A [11][17]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
> >>
> >>A A Jersey Panteras
> >>
> >>A A [12][18]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Pantera USA
> >>
> >>A A [13][19]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
> >>
> >>A A [14][20]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
> >>
> >>A A Strada Pantera
> >>
> >>A A [15][21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Friends
> >>
> >>A A [16][22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Registry
> >>
> >>A A
> [17][23]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Club of France
> >>
> >>A A
> [18][24]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
> >>
> >>A A DeTomaso Owners of Australia
> >>
> >>A A [19][25]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
> >>
> >>A A Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our
> Japanese
> >>A A counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
> >>
> >>A A [20][26]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
> >>
> >>A A And many many more.
> >>
> >>A A A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before.
> There are
> >>A A over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related
> sites now.
> >>A A Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead
> of the
> >>A A forums and websites. TRUE.
> >>
> >>A A Like this one:
> >>
> >>A A Clevelands Forever - [21][27]351c.net - anything you ever
> wanted to know
> >>A A and didn't know about the 351C!
> >>
> >>A A [22][28]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
> >>
> >>A A Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access
> to all of
> >>A A this great stuff!!
> >>
> >>A A Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
> >>
> >>A A This is the future of our great club!
> >>
> >>A A In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun
> Rally in San
> >>A A Diego.
> >>
> >>A A Enjoy!
> >>
> >>A A [23][29]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
> >>
> >>A A Ed Mendez
> >>
> >>A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >>A A 1.
> [30]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
> >>A A 2. [31]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
> >>A A 3.
> [32]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
> 62276?ref=hl
> >>A A 4. [33]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
> >>A A 5. [34]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
> >>A A 6.
> [35]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
> >>A A 7. [36]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
> >>A A 8. [37]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> >>A A 9. [38]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
> >>A A 10. [39]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
> >>A A 11. panterashttps://[40]www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
> >>A A 12. [41]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
> >>A A 13. [42]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
> >>A A 14. [43]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
> >>A A 15. [44]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
> >>A A 16. [45]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
> >>A A 17.
> [46]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
> >>A A 18.
> [47]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
> >>A A 19. [48]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
> >>A A 20. [49]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
> >>A A 21. [50]http://351c.net/
> >>A A 22. [51]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
> >>A A 23. [52]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
> >>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
> 6. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 7. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
> 8. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
> 9. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
> 10. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
> 11. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
> 12. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
> 13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
> 14. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> 15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
> 16. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
> 17. https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
> 18. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
> 19. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
> 20. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
> 21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
> 22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
> 23. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
> 24. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
> 25. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
> 26. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
> 27. http://351c.net/
> 28. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
> 29. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
> 30. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
> 31. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
> 32.
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?ref=hl
> 33. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
> 34. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
> 35. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
> 36. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
> 37. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> 38. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
> 39. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
> 40. http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
> 41. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
> 42. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
> 43. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
> 44. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
> 45. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
> 46. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
> 47. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
> 48. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
> 49. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
> 50. http://351c.net/
> 51. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
> 52. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
> 53. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 54. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 55. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 56. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
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'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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This is really the rub.A Facebook is not about you.A It's not about
Panteras and it is not about distributing information.A Any benefit is
a side effect.A They want money and the advertisers not only
contribute through media buys, the information and analytics can be
monetized and sold to other organizations that would also like money.
I'm an avid (maybe rabid) Facebook user and the Detomaso presence on FB
is entertaining and rewarding.A I'm glad it is there.A But you cannot
depend on it as a way to distribute information reliably.A FB needs to
know what you like but if you "like" something that doesn't mean you
get more of it.A It means that they will try to guess (though their
analytics) what else you will "like" and test your answers to see if it
fits a model.A If they guess right by presenting the different items
and you *do* "like" or "click" or "comment" or "share" again, it
doesn't mean you get more of it.A They want to
*keep*building*the*model*.
In a very spooky coincidence, I posted this methodology on FB to my
friends and I got a FB recruitment letter 6 hours later (I'm a High
Performance Computing professional).A Yiiiikes!
I love FB and I will continue to use it and I encourage a FB presence
for all POCA and other DeTomaso clubs.A But do not *rely* on it for
distributing information.
sean
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A The real question is how to measure the Facebook effect. A
simple and
A A meaningful metric is to track new POCA members by asking why
they
A A joined and where did they find out about the club. If Facebook
gets a
A A new member, that can monetized to justify its costs. A second
metric
A A would be it's effect on Pantera prices. That would be a tough
A A correlation to analyze.
A A Hits are not a real measure of performance until we can start
to sell
A A something through Facebook. Even then it would be a tenuous
A A connection.A
A A So it comes down to the entertainment factor. At first it is
A A entertaining; eventually a nuisance? Your call.
A A Jeff
A A 6559
A A On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Julian Kift
A A <[1][2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of
Facebook a) be
A A A scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
A A A I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get
3
A A A notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then
someone
A A A comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's
like living
A A A inside an Alzheimer's dream!
A A A And there we go with statistics again; that assumption
correlation =
A A A causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of
Panteras
A A A on FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog
would be
A A A worth millions if that's the case.
A A A In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through
other FB
A A A posts and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a
caption on a
A A A photo and feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it
without any
A A A due diligence, just because it's on FB it must be true
right!
A A A And now there's the targeted advertising, search for
something on
A A A any site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm
already fed
A A A up with ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
A A A Julian
A A A ________________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso <[2][3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf
of Ed Mendez
A A A <[3][4]edducati at mac.com>
A A A Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
A A A To: Charles McCall
A A A Cc: [4][5]detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego
Panteras
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
A A A I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault.
:-)
A A A I'm the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been
told.
A A A Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot
of
A A A hot rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of
posts
A A A daily but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done
across
A A A several Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your
own
A A A page. There are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You
can
A A A limit the number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to
which
A A A ever pages you want to.
A A A I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with
A A A Pantera stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and
A A A recognition to our cars and has increased value.
A A A It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together.
Heck
A A A I didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of
A A A Junika Okada and the awesome work he does over there.
A A A The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't
already
A A A and to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB
page,
A A A this has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line -
grow and
A A A get people interested. All the pages are there already (for the
A A A chapters)
A A A So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups
and
A A A pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll
try
A A A not to cross post so much. ;-)
A A A Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all
that
A A A love this car.
A A A We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time...
A A A @pocausa
A A A Ed
A A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
A A A > On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall
A A A <[5][6]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
A A A >
A A A > Ed,
A A A > Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative
for
A A A communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or
A A A coordination on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that
have a
A A A fair amount of activity. If you have a message that you want
to make
A A A sure that everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a
half-dozen
A A A pages. People who subscribe to those pages get the same
message a
A A A half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and
it will
A A A only get worse if people keep generating new FB Pantera
pages.
A A A >
A A A > It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fA^3rums. Most
people would
A A A belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to
them
A A A all. I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso
world
A A A into ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
A A A >
A A A > What do you think?
A A A >
A A A >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez
<[6][7]edducati at mac.com>
A A A wrote:
A A A >>AA AA Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook
liaison for
A A A every chapter
A A A >>AA AA of POCA.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook
account if you
A A A don't
A A A >>AA AA already have one, because your missing out on some
really
A A A good Pantera
A A A >>AA AA stuff...
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA I have made all these pages so far:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA POCA Main FB page
A A A >>
A A A >>AA A
A A
A [1][7][8]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=h
l
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA SDP FB Page
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[2][8][9]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
A A A >>
A A A >>AA A
A A
A [3][9][10]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57
170650
A A A 626227
A A A >>AA AA 6?ref=hl
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA AZ Panteras
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA [4][10][11]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA [5][11][12]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA POCA Main Group Page
A A A >>
A A A >>AA A
A A
A [6][12][13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmer
ica/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA POCA Fun Rally Page
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[7][13][14]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA and here is my personal page:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA [8][14][15]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA I've also made a Facebook page for each and every
chapter.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Other pages:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Foothill Panteras - Secret group
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[9][15][16]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Panteras Northwest
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[10][16][17]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA NY Panteras
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[11][17][18]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Jersey Panteras
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[12][18][19]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Pantera USA
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[13][19][20]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[14][20][21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Strada Pantera
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[15][21][22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Friends
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[16][22][23]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Registry
A A A >>
A A A >>AA A
A A
A [17][23][24]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222
512926
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Club of France
A A A >>
A A A >>AA A
A A
A [18][24][25]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/1101527
42239
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA DeTomaso Owners of Australia
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[19][25][26]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see
what our
A A A Japanese
A A A >>AA AA counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[20][26][27]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA And many many more.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA A lot of these popped up since I started ours,
some before.
A A A There are
A A A >>AA AA over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp,
etc related
A A A sites now.
A A A >>AA AA Many people are now using Facebook to ask
questions instead
A A A of the
A A A >>AA AA forums and websites. TRUE.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Like this one:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Clevelands Forever - [21][27][28]351c.net -
anything you ever
A A A wanted to know
A A A >>AA AA and didn't know about the 351C!
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA
[22][28][29]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't
have access
A A A to all of
A A A >>AA AA this great stuff!!
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA This is the future of our great club!
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA In the meantime please enjoy this video of the
POCA Fun
A A A Rally in San
A A A >>AA AA Diego.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Enjoy!
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA [23][29][30]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Ed Mendez
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
A A A >>
A A A >> References
A A A >>
A A A >>AA AA 1.
A A
A [30][31]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
A A A >>AA AA 2.
[31][32]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
A A A >>AA AA 3.
A A
A [32][33]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717
065062
A A A 62276?ref=hl
A A A >>AA AA 4. [33][34]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
A A A >>AA AA 5. [34][35]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
A A A >>AA AA 6.
A A
A [35][36]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica
/
A A A >>AA AA 7.
[36][37]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
A A A >>AA AA 8. [37][38]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
A A A >>AA AA 9.
[38][39]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
A A A >>AA A 10.
[39][40]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
A A A >>AA A 11.
panterashttps://[40][41]www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
A A A >>AA A 12. [41][42]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
A A A >>AA A 13.
[42][43]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
A A A >>AA A 14.
[43][44]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
A A A >>AA A 15.
[44][45]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
A A A >>AA A 16.
[45][46]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
A A A >>AA A 17.
A A
A [46][47]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/432225129
26
A A A >>AA A 18.
A A
A [47][48]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/11015274223
9
A A A >>AA A 19.
[48][49]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
A A A >>AA A 20.
[49][50]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
A A A >>AA A 21. [50][51]http://351c.net/
A A A >>AA A 22.
[51][52]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
A A A >>AA A 23. [52][53]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
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A A 1. mailto:[58]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A 2. mailto:[59]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
A A 3. mailto:[60]edducati at mac.com
A A 4. mailto:[61]detomaso at poca.com
A A 5. mailto:[62]charlesmccall at gmail.com
A A 6. mailto:[63]edducati at mac.com
A A 7.
[64]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
A A 8. [65]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
A A 9.
[66]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
6227
A 10. [67]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
A 11. [68]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
A 12.
[69]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
A 13. [70]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
A 14. [71]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
A 15. [72]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
A 16. [73]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
A 17. [74]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
A 18. [75]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
A 19. [76]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
A 20. [77]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
A 21. [78]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
A 22. [79]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
A 23.
[80]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
A 24.
[81]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
A 25. [82]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
A 26. [83]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
A 27. [84]http://351c.net/
A 28. [85]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
A 29. [86]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
A 30.
[87]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
A 31. [88]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
A 32.
[89]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
62276?ref=hl
A 33. [90]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
A 34. [91]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
A 35.
[92]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
A 36. [93]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
A 37. [94]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
A 38. [95]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
A 39. [96]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
A 40. [97]http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
A 41. [98]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
A 42. [99]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
A 43. [100]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
A 44. [101]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
A 45. [102]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
A 46.
[103]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
A 47.
[104]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
A 48. [105]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
A 49. [106]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
A 50. [107]http://351c.net/
A 51. [108]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
A 52. [109]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
A 53. mailto:[110]DeTomaso at poca.com
A 54. [111]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A 55. mailto:[112]DeTomaso at poca.com
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References
1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
4. mailto:edducati at mac.com
5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
6. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
7. mailto:edducati at mac.com
8. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
9. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
10. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650
11. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
12. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
14. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
15. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
16. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
17. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
18. https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
19. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
20. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
23. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
24. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
25. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
26. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
27. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
28. http://351c.net/
29. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
30. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
31. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
32. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
33. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
34. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
35. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
36. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
37. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
38. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
39. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
40. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
41. http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
42. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
43. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
44. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
45. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
46. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
47. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
48. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
49. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
50. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
51. http://351c.net/
52. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
53. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
54. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
55. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
56. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
57. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
58. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
59. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
60. mailto:edducati at mac.com
61. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
62. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
63. mailto:edducati at mac.com
64. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
65. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
66. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
67. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
68. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
69. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
70. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
71. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
72. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
73. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
74. https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
75. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
76. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
77. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
78. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
79. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
80. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
81. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
82. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
83. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
84. http://351c.net/
85. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
86. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
87. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
88. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
89. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?ref=hl
90. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
91. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
92. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
93. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
94. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
95. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
96. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
97. http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
98. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
99. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
100. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
101. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
102. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
103. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
104. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
105. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
106. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
107. http://351c.net/
108. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
109. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
110. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
111. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
112. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
113. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
114. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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