[DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook

Charles McCall charlesmccall at gmail.com
Tue Feb 2 03:02:37 EST 2016


 Remember – I’m not questioning if there should be a DeTomaso presence on
Facebook. I think there should be, and it is a valid and useful way for
contacting other owners and potential owners. I use it often and see many
of you out there.

What I’m questioning is if there should be dozens and dozens of
totally independent pages on Facebook, which requires multiple posts to
reach everyone, and you either only sign up for only a single page (which
defeats the purpose of having many) or you get the same information a half
dozen times, which is annoying. By having dozens of pages dedicated to the
same subject, information gets diluted, it is harder to find what you are
looking for.

 We would have met Boyd with a single, unified FB page. The younger, social
media savvy folks would be there with a single, unified FB page., or even
with a highly reduced number. But I don't see the advantage to having 20
pages for the same subject, and I do see disadvantages as mentioned. The
same disadvantages that would arise if someone were to implement 20
different DeTomaso e-mail fórums, something that thankfully hasn't been
proposed. You either subscribe to them all or you miss stuff. It's exactly
the same situation.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:

> The real question is how to measure the Facebook effect. A simple and
> meaningful metric is to track new POCA members by asking why they joined
> and where did they find out about the club. If Facebook gets a new member,
> that can monetized to justify its costs. A second metric would be it's
> effect on Pantera prices. That would be a tough correlation to analyze.
>
> Hits are not a real measure of performance until we can start to sell
> something through Facebook. Even then it would be a tenuous connection.
>
> So it comes down to the entertainment factor. At first it is entertaining;
> eventually a nuisance? Your call.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be
>> scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
>>
>> I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3
>> notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone
>> comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living inside
>> an Alzheimer's dream!
>>
>> And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation =
>> causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras on FB
>> doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be worth
>> millions if that's the case.
>>
>> In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB posts
>> and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a photo and
>> feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any due diligence,
>> just because it's on FB it must be true right!
>>
>> And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on any
>> site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed up with
>> ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
>>
>> Julian
>> ________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez <
>> edducati at mac.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
>> To: Charles McCall
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
>>
>> I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-) I'm
>> the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.
>>
>> Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of hot rod
>> and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts daily but they
>> go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across several Pantera pages
>> only go on your newsfeed and not on your own page. There are settings in FB
>> to allow or disallow posts. You can limit the number. You can also
>> subscribe or unsubscribe to which ever pages you want to.
>>
>> I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with Pantera
>> stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and recognition to our cars
>> and has increased value.
>>
>> It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck I
>> didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of Junika Okada
>> and the awesome work he does over there.
>>
>> The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already and
>> to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page, this has
>> and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and get people
>> interested. All the pages are there already (for the chapters)
>>
>> So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and pages
>> at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try not to cross
>> post so much. ;-)
>>
>> Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that love
>> this car.
>>
>> We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time... @pocausa
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>
>> > On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> > Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for
>> communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or coordination on
>> FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a fair amount of activity.
>> If you have a message that you want to make sure that everyone gets, then
>> you need to cross-post on a half-dozen pages. People who subscribe to those
>> pages get the same message a half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It
>> happens now, and it will only get worse if people keep generating new FB
>> Pantera pages.
>> >
>> > It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fórums. Most people would belong
>> to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them all. I don't see
>> the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world into ever-smaller grounds,
>> but I do see disadvantages.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> >>    Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for every
>> chapter
>> >>    of POCA.
>> >>
>> >>    Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you don't
>> >>    already have one, because your missing out on some really good
>> Pantera
>> >>    stuff...
>> >>
>> >>    I have made all these pages so far:
>> >>
>> >>    POCA Main FB page
>> >>
>> >>    [1]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>> >>
>> >>    SDP FB Page
>> >>
>> >>    [2]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>> >>
>> >>    Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
>> >>
>> >>    [3]
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
>> >>    6?ref=hl
>> >>
>> >>    AZ Panteras
>> >>
>> >>    [4]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>> >>
>> >>    Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
>> >>
>> >>    [5]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>> >>
>> >>    POCA Main Group Page
>> >>
>> >>    [6]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>> >>
>> >>    POCA Fun Rally Page
>> >>
>> >>    [7]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>> >>
>> >>    and here is my personal page:
>> >>
>> >>    [8]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>> >>
>> >>    I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
>> >>
>> >>    Other pages:
>> >>
>> >>    Foothill Panteras - Secret group
>> >>
>> >>    [9]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>> >>
>> >>    Panteras Northwest
>> >>
>> >>    [10]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>> >>
>> >>    NY Panteras
>> >>
>> >>    [11]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>> >>
>> >>    Jersey Panteras
>> >>
>> >>    [12]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Pantera USA
>> >>
>> >>    [13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
>> >>
>> >>    [14]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>> >>
>> >>    Strada Pantera
>> >>
>> >>    [15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Friends
>> >>
>> >>    [16]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Registry
>> >>
>> >>    [17]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Club of France
>> >>
>> >>    [18]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>> >>
>> >>    DeTomaso Owners of Australia
>> >>
>> >>    [19]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>> >>
>> >>    Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our Japanese
>> >>    counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
>> >>
>> >>    [20]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>> >>
>> >>    And many many more.
>> >>
>> >>    A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before. There
>> are
>> >>    over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related sites
>> now.
>> >>    Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead of the
>> >>    forums and websites. TRUE.
>> >>
>> >>    Like this one:
>> >>
>> >>    Clevelands Forever - [21]351c.net - anything you ever wanted to
>> know
>> >>    and didn't know about the 351C!
>> >>
>> >>    [22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>> >>
>> >>    Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access to all
>> of
>> >>    this great stuff!!
>> >>
>> >>    Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
>> >>
>> >>    This is the future of our great club!
>> >>
>> >>    In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun Rally in San
>> >>    Diego.
>> >>
>> >>    Enjoy!
>> >>
>> >>    [23]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>> >>
>> >>    Ed Mendez
>> >>
>> >>    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >>    1. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>> >>    2. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>> >>    3.
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?ref=hl
>> >>    4. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>> >>    5. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>> >>    6. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>> >>    7. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>> >>    8. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>> >>    9. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>> >>   10. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>> >>   11. panterashttps://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>> >>   12. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>> >>   13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>> >>   14. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>> >>   15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>> >>   16. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>> >>   17. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>> >>   18. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>> >>   19. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>> >>   20. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>> >>   21. http://351c.net/
>> >>   22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>> >>   23. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >>
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>
>
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   Remember a Iam not questioning if there should be a DeTomaso presence
   on Facebook. I think there should be, and it is a valid and useful way
   for contacting other owners and potential owners. I use it often and
   see many of you out there.
   A
   What Iam questioning is if there should be dozens and dozens of
   totallyA independent pages on Facebook, which requires multiple posts
   to reach everyone, and you either only sign up for only a single page
   (which defeats the purpose of having many) or you get the same
   information a half dozen times, which is annoying. By having dozens of
   pages dedicated to the same subject, information gets diluted, it is
   harder to find what you are looking for.
   A
   A We would have met Boyd with a single, unified FB page. The younger,
   social media savvy folks would be there with a single, unified FB
   page.,A or even withA a highly reduced number. But I don't see the
   advantage to having 20 pages for the same subject, and I do see
   disadvantages as mentioned. The same disadvantages that would arise if
   someone were to implement 20 different DeTomaso e-mail fA^3rums,
   something that thankfully hasn't been proposed. You either subscribe to
   them all or you miss stuff. It's exactly the same situation.

   On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:

   The real question is how to measure the Facebook effect. A simple and
   meaningful metric is to track new POCA members by asking why they
   joined and where did they find out about the club. If Facebook gets a
   new member, that can monetized to justify its costs. A second metric
   would be it's effect on Pantera prices. That would be a tough
   correlation to analyze.
   Hits are not a real measure of performance until we can start to sell
   something through Facebook. Even then it would be a tenuous
   connection.A
   So it comes down to the entertainment factor. At first it is
   entertaining; eventually a nuisance? Your call.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Julian Kift
   <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

     There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be
     scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
     I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3
     notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone
     comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living
     inside an Alzheimer's dream!
     And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation =
     causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras
     on FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be
     worth millions if that's the case.
     In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB
     posts and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a
     photo and feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any
     due diligence, just because it's on FB it must be true right!
     And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on
     any site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed
     up with ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
     Julian
     ________________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
     <[4]edducati at mac.com>
     Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
     To: Charles McCall
     Cc: [5]detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
     I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-)
     I'm the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.
     Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of
     hot rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts
     daily but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across
     several Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your own
     page. There are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You can
     limit the number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to which
     ever pages you want to.
     I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with
     Pantera stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and
     recognition to our cars and has increased value.
     It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck
     I didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of
     Junika Okada and the awesome work he does over there.
     The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already
     and to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page,
     this has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and
     get people interested. All the pages are there already (for the
     chapters)
     So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and
     pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try
     not to cross post so much. ;-)
     Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that
     love this car.
     We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time...
     @pocausa
     Ed
     Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
     > On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall
     <[6]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
     >
     > Ed,
     > Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for
     communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or
     coordination on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a
     fair amount of activity. If you have a message that you want to make
     sure that everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a half-dozen
     pages. People who subscribe to those pages get the same message a
     half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and it will
     only get worse if people keep generating new FB Pantera pages.
     >
     > It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fA^3rums. Most people would
     belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them
     all. I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world
     into ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
     >
     > What do you think?
     >
     >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <[7]edducati at mac.com>
     wrote:

   >>A  A  Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for every
   chapter
   >>A  A  of POCA.
   >>
   >>A  A  Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you
   don't
   >>A  A  already have one, because your missing out on some really good
   Pantera
   >>A  A  stuff...
   >>
   >>A  A  I have made all these pages so far:
   >>
   >>A  A  POCA Main FB page
   >>

   >>A  A
   [1][8]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
   >>
   >>A  A  SDP FB Page
   >>
   >>A  A  [2][9]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
   >>
   >>A  A  Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
   >>
   >>A  A
   [3][10]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
   6227
   >>A  A  6?ref=hl
   >>
   >>A  A  AZ Panteras
   >>
   >>A  A  [4][11]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
   >>
   >>A  A  Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
   >>
   >>A  A  [5][12]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
   >>
   >>A  A  POCA Main Group Page
   >>
   >>A  A
   [6][13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
   >>
   >>A  A  POCA Fun Rally Page
   >>
   >>A  A  [7][14]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
   >>
   >>A  A  and here is my personal page:
   >>
   >>A  A  [8][15]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
   >>
   >>A  A  I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
   >>
   >>A  A  Other pages:
   >>
   >>A  A  Foothill Panteras - Secret group
   >>
   >>A  A  [9][16]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
   >>
   >>A  A  Panteras Northwest
   >>
   >>A  A  [10][17]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
   >>
   >>A  A  NY Panteras
   >>
   >>A  A  [11][18]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
   >>
   >>A  A  Jersey Panteras
   >>
   >>A  A  [12][19]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Pantera USA
   >>
   >>A  A  [13][20]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
   >>
   >>A  A  [14][21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
   >>
   >>A  A  Strada Pantera
   >>
   >>A  A  [15][22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Friends
   >>
   >>A  A  [16][23]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Registry
   >>
   >>A  A
   [17][24]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Club of France
   >>
   >>A  A
   [18][25]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
   >>
   >>A  A  DeTomaso Owners of Australia
   >>
   >>A  A  [19][26]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
   >>
   >>A  A  Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our
   Japanese
   >>A  A  counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
   >>
   >>A  A  [20][27]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
   >>
   >>A  A  And many many more.
   >>
   >>A  A  A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before.
   There are
   >>A  A  over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related
   sites now.
   >>A  A  Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead of
   the
   >>A  A  forums and websites. TRUE.
   >>
   >>A  A  Like this one:
   >>
   >>A  A  Clevelands Forever - [21][28]351c.net - anything you ever
   wanted to know
   >>A  A  and didn't know about the 351C!
   >>
   >>A  A  [22][29]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
   >>
   >>A  A  Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access to
   all of
   >>A  A  this great stuff!!
   >>
   >>A  A  Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
   >>
   >>A  A  This is the future of our great club!
   >>
   >>A  A  In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun Rally
   in San
   >>A  A  Diego.
   >>
   >>A  A  Enjoy!
   >>
   >>A  A  [23][30]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
   >>
   >>A  A  Ed Mendez
   >>
   >>A  A  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >>A  A  1.
   [31]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
   >>A  A  2. [32]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
   >>A  A  3.
   [33]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062622
   76?ref=hl
   >>A  A  4. [34]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
   >>A  A  5. [35]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
   >>A  A  6.
   [36]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
   >>A  A  7. [37]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
   >>A  A  8. [38]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
   >>A  A  9. [39]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
   >>A  A 10. [40]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
   >>A  A 11. panterashttps://[41]www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
   >>A  A 12. [42]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
   >>A  A 13. [43]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
   >>A  A 14. [44]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
   >>A  A 15. [45]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
   >>A  A 16. [46]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
   >>A  A 17.
   [47]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
   >>A  A 18.
   [48]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
   >>A  A 19. [49]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
   >>A  A 20. [50]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
   >>A  A 21. [51]http://351c.net/
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   3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   4. mailto:edducati at mac.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
   7. mailto:edducati at mac.com
   8. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
   9. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
  10. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
  11. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
  12. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
  13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
  14. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
  15. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
  16. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
  17. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
  18. https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
  19. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
  20. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
  21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
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  23. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
  24. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
  25. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
  26. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
  27. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
  28. http://351c.net/
  29. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
  30. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
  31. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
  32. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
  33. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?ref=hl
  34. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
  35. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
  36. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
  37. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
  38. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
  39. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
  40. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
  41. http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
  42. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
  43. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
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  48. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
  49. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
  50. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
  51. http://351c.net/
  52. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
  53. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
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  56. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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