[DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook

Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Mon Feb 1 21:46:52 EST 2016


Please except my apology for comments I've made today being disparaging
towards your efforts.
Joseph Byrd

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Ed Mendez
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 20:47 PM
To: Larry Stock
Cc: Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook

Thank you 

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

> On 2/02/2016, at 14:03, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
> 
> You folks have got to understand that we are an older crowd here. 
> Facebook is a younger Demographic that we would reaching out to. As Ed 
> Mendez has noted that we also have a twitter account, then there is 
> instagram, for another Younger demographic. These are all just younger 
> modes of communication just like our old rotary phones used to be, 
> technology just keeps marching on. So there are now web pages, 
> Facebook pages, and who know what will be next. If we want to appeal 
> to a younger market, we need to be available on these newer 
> communication modes. Lets at least give Ed credit for putting us out 
> there if some younger folks want to share our passion, at least we can be
available. We can always mail them a magazine.
> Larry Stock
> 
> On 2/1/16, 4:23 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich"
> <detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  The real question is how to measure the Facebook effect. A simple 
>> and  meaningful metric is to track new POCA members by asking why 
>> they  joined and where did they find out about the club. If Facebook 
>> gets a  new member, that can monetized to justify its costs. A second 
>> metric  would be it's effect on Pantera prices. That would be a tough  
>> correlation to analyze.
>>  Hits are not a real measure of performance until we can start to 
>> sell  something through Facebook. Even then it would be a tenuous  
>> connection.A  So it comes down to the entertainment factor. At first 
>> it is  entertaining; eventually a nuisance? Your call.
>>  Jeff
>>  6559
>> 
>>  On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Julian Kift  
>> <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be
>>    scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
>>    I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3
>>    notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone
>>    comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living
>>    inside an Alzheimer's dream!
>>    And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation =
>>    causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras
>>    on FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be
>>    worth millions if that's the case.
>>    In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB
>>    posts and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a
>>    photo and feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any
>>    due diligence, just because it's on FB it must be true right!
>>    And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on
>>    any site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed
>>    up with ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
>>    Julian
>>    ________________________________________
>>    From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
>>    <[3]edducati at mac.com>
>>    Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
>>    To: Charles McCall
>>    Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
>>    I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-)
>>    I'm the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.
>>    Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of
>>    hot rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts
>>    daily but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across
>>    several Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your own
>>    page. There are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You can
>>    limit the number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to which
>>    ever pages you want to.
>>    I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with
>>    Pantera stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and
>>    recognition to our cars and has increased value.
>>    It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck
>>    I didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of
>>    Junika Okada and the awesome work he does over there.
>>    The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already
>>    and to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page,
>>    this has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and
>>    get people interested. All the pages are there already (for the
>>    chapters)
>>    So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and
>>    pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try
>>    not to cross post so much. ;-)
>>    Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that
>>    love this car.
>>    We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time...
>>    @pocausa
>>    Ed
>>    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>>> On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall
>>>    <[5]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ed,
>>> Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for
>>    communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or
>>    coordination on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a
>>    fair amount of activity. If you have a message that you want to make
>>    sure that everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a half-dozen
>>    pages. People who subscribe to those pages get the same message a
>>    half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and it will
>>    only get worse if people keep generating new FB Pantera pages.
>>> 
>>> It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fA^3rums. Most people would
>>    belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them
>>    all. I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world
>>    into ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <[6]edducati at mac.com>
>>    wrote:
>>>> A  A  Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for
>>    every chapter
>>>> A  A  of POCA.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you
>>    don't
>>>> A  A  already have one, because your missing out on some really
>>    good Pantera
>>>> A  A  stuff...
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  I have made all these pages so far:
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  POCA Main FB page
>>>> 
>>>> A  A
>>    [1][7]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  SDP FB Page
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [2][8]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
>>>> 
>>>> A  A
>>    [3][9]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650
>>    626227
>>>> A  A  6?ref=hl
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  AZ Panteras
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [4][10]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [5][11]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  POCA Main Group Page
>>>> 
>>>> A  A
>>    [6][12]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  POCA Fun Rally Page
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [7][13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  and here is my personal page:
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [8][14]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Other pages:
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Foothill Panteras - Secret group
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [9][15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Panteras Northwest
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [10][16]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  NY Panteras
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [11][17]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Jersey Panteras
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [12][18]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Pantera USA
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [13][19]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [14][20]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Strada Pantera
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [15][21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Friends
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [16][22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Registry
>>>> 
>>>> A  A
>>    
>> [17][23]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Club of France
>>>> 
>>>> A  A
>>    
>> [18][24]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  DeTomaso Owners of Australia
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [19][25]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our
>>    Japanese
>>>> A  A  counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [20][26]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  And many many more.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before.
>>    There are
>>>> A  A  over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related
>>    sites now.
>>>> A  A  Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead
>>    of the
>>>> A  A  forums and websites. TRUE.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Like this one:
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Clevelands Forever - [21][27]351c.net - anything you ever
>>    wanted to know
>>>> A  A  and didn't know about the 351C!
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [22][28]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access
>>    to all of
>>>> A  A  this great stuff!!
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  This is the future of our great club!
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun
>>    Rally in San
>>>> A  A  Diego.
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Enjoy!
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  [23][29]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Ed Mendez
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>>> 
>>>> References
>>>> 
>>>> A  A  1.
>>    [30]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>>>> A  A  2. [31]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>>>> A  A  3.
>>    [32]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/5717065062
>>    62276?ref=hl
>>>> A  A  4. [33]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>>>> A  A  5. [34]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>>>> A  A  6.
>>    [35]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>>>> A  A  7. [36]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>>>> A  A  8. [37]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>>>> A  A  9. [38]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>>>> A  A 10. [39]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>>>> A  A 11. panterashttps://[40]www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>>>> A  A 12. [41]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>>>> A  A 13. [42]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>>>> A  A 14. [43]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>>>> A  A 15. [44]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>>>> A  A 16. [45]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>>>> A  A 17.
>>    [46]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>>>> A  A 18.
>>    [47]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>>>> A  A 19. [48]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>>>> A  A 20. [49]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>>>> A  A 21. [50]http://351c.net/
>>>> A  A 22. [51]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>>>> A  A 23. [52]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>>>> 
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>> References
>> 
>>  1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>  2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>  3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>>  4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>  5. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
>>  6. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>>  7. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>>  8. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>>  9. 
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
>> 10. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>> 11. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>> 12. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>> 13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>> 14. https://www.facebook.com/edducati 15. 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>> 16. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>> 17. https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>> 18. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>> 19. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>> 20. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>> 21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>> 22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>> 23. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>> 24. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>> 25. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>> 26. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>> 27. http://351c.net/
>> 28. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>> 29. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>> 30. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>> 31. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>> 32. 
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276
>> ?ref=
>> hl
>> 33. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>> 34. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>> 35. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>> 36. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>> 37. https://www.facebook.com/edducati 38. 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>> 39. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>> 40. http://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>> 41. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>> 42. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>> 43. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>> 44. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>> 45. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>> 46. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>> 47. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>> 48. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>> 49. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>> 50. http://351c.net/
>> 51. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>> 52. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>> 53. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> 54. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> 55. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> 56. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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