[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 150, Issue 20

jderyke at aol.com jderyke at aol.com
Sat Dec 24 02:50:45 EST 2016


Terry, know that the stock interior light dimmer is easily fixable with a soldering iron & a very short jumper. Inside, there's a hair-fine wire that carries all the current, and it breaks- probably from vibration. 
To fix, solder a jumper between two short copper stubs with no lugs attached, on the back of the dimmer. I described this fix decades ago in the Newsletter, and can't find the article just now. Merry Christmas- J DeRyke


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Today's Topics:

1. Re: How many bulbs in the speedo/tach (B Hower)
2. Re: How many bulbs in the speedo/tach (Larry - Ohio Time)
3. Aerial Antenna for GTS (Emiliano Ballejos)
4. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Larry Stock)
5. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)
6. Roof antenna (gonancy at juno.com)
7. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Vinh Ly)
8. Aerial Antenna for GTS (Larry Finch)
9. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Mike Drew)
10. Cockpit went dark (Himes, Terry (397C))
11. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Emiliano Ballejos)
12. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Emiliano Ballejos)
13. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Mike Drew)
14. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Emiliano Ballejos)
15. Re: Cockpit went dark (Forest Goodhart)
16. Re: Cockpit went dark (Douglas Kelm)
17. Re: Cockpit went dark (Himes, Terry (397C))
18. Re: Cockpit went dark (Himes, Terry (397C))
19. Re: Cockpit went dark (Sean Korb)
20. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com)
21. Re: How many bulbs in the speedo/tach (B Hower)
22. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Bill Lewis)
23. Wheel offset (mark skwarek)
24. Re: Wheel offset (Asa Jay Laughton)
25. Re: Wheel offset (cengles at cox.net)
26. Re: Wheel offset (mark skwarek)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, 'Charles McCall'
<charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Detomaso Email List'
<detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
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I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: 'Charles McCall' <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email List' <detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

Charles...
you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original rheostat
reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the voltage.
JFByrd/5177 

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Of Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can highly
recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent bulbs
did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a bright
crisp light.


Julian



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Email Jon Haas.



CheersBill MooreCalgary
-------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
<charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19? 2:55 AM? (GMT-05:00) To:
Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] How many
bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the
answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for
the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?

2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo, since
it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at night.

Thank you!

? Hi all
? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights
? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
? gauges at night.A
? Thank you!

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I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.

Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
__________________________________________________________________

From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: 'Charles McCall' <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email List'
<detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
Charles...
you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
rheostat
reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
voltage.
JFByrd/5177
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Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
highly
recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
bulbs
did squat and LED's were only marginally better.  These provide a
bright
crisp light.
Julian
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Email Jon Haas.
CheersBill MooreCalgary
-------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
<[6]charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19 2:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To:
Detomaso Email List <[7]detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso]
How many
bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
the
answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
for
the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
since
it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
night.
Thank you!
Hi all
I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
lights
in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
gauges at night.A
Thank you!
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:46:06 -0500
From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
To: "'B Hower'" <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'"
<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, "'Charles McCall'" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>,
"'Detomaso Email List'" <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
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Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?

Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland




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Of B Hower via DeTomaso
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:42 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Charles McCall'; 'Detomaso Email List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: 'Charles McCall' <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email List'
<detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

Charles...
you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original rheostat
reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the voltage.
JFByrd/5177 

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
To: bill at incendium.com; Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can highly
recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent bulbs
did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a bright
crisp light.


Julian



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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

Email Jon Haas.



CheersBill MooreCalgary
-------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
<charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19? 2:55 AM? (GMT-05:00) To:
Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] How many
bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the
answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for
the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?

2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo, since
it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at night.

Thank you!

? Hi all
? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights
? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
? gauges at night.A
? Thank you!

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:30:28 +0000
From: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
To: via DeTomaso Lsj <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS. 

Does anyone have one for sale? 

Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave some sort of deposit. 

Regards,
Emiliano 

5910 L
7205 GTS

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:59:33 -0800
From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>, via DeTomaso Lsj
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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All radio?s were dealer installed options, so there was no one radio or
antenna that was used.
Larry

On 12/19/16, 12:30 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Emiliano Ballejos"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>
>Does anyone have one for sale?
>
>Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you
>don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave
>some sort of deposit.
>
>Regards,
>Emiliano 
>
>5910 L
>7205 GTS
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:15:06 -0800
From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
To: "'Emiliano Ballejos'" <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>, "'via DeTomaso Lsj'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Emiliano,

I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
(Factory installed on many cars.)

See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about 5-10 minutes,
but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already been seen.

But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is available anymore either.
I'd like to find one myself!


Chuck



>I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>
>Does anyone have one for sale?
>
>Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you
>don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave
>some sort of deposit.
>
>Regards,
>Emiliano 
>
>5910 L
>7205 GTS
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:22:16 GMT
From: "gonancy at juno.com" <gonancy at juno.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Roof antenna
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I realise this is no help but I bought my roof antenna at the de Tomaso factory when we attended the de Tomaso Love In in 1996. 
It was REALLY nerve racking to drilling that hole in the roof. 

Really pleased with the antenna even though I don't have a radio!

GoNancy
____________________________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:32:56 -0500
From: Vinh Ly <vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
shipping.

Vinh
'75 Euro GTS
#7445




On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy" <
detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:

> Emiliano,
>
> I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
> (Factory installed on many cars.)
>
> See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
> 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about 5-10
> minutes,
> but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already been
> seen.
>
> But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is available
> anymore either.
> I'd like to find one myself!
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
> >
> >Does anyone have one for sale?
> >
> >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you
> >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave
> >some sort of deposit.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Emiliano
> >
> >5910 L
> >7205 GTS
> >_______________________________________________
> >
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Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
shipping.A
Vinh
'75 Euro GTS
#7445
On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
<[1]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:

Emiliano,
I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
?
(Factory installed on many cars.)
See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
5-10 minutes,
but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
been seen.
But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
available anymore either.
I'd like to find one myself!
Chuck
>I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>
>Does anyone have one for sale?
>
>Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
if you
>don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
leave
>some sort of deposit.
>
>Regards,
>Emiliano
>
>5910 L
>7205 GTS
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:35:04 -0800
From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Actually, there appears to be a ?factory correct? antenna.

The roof mount unit, listed in bright or black finish, appears on page 67 of the black cover with red GT5S parts catalog.

Suspect it is a common-to-the-era Italian part found on Fiat or Alfa Romeo?

Larry

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Actually, there appears to be a `factory correct' antenna.

The roof mount unit, listed in bright or black finish, appears on page
67 of the black cover with red GT5S parts catalog.

Suspect it is a common-to-the-era Italian part found on Fiat or Alfa
Romeo?

Larry

[cid:35BDD6F2-7894-4243-9B52-9974C0BC50B5 at attlocal.net]
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:42:44 -0800
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Cc: via DeTomaso Lsj <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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...except for the 1970s Euro GTS. Those normally came with radios and the factory had a specific antenna they used. The later GT5 and GT5-S used a slightly different model, but they all seemed to have them. 

But when speaking about 1971-74 US cars (Including the US GTS), yes, you're right.
--there was no antenna standardization although most were fitted to the left front fender.

Mike

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
> 
> All radio?s were dealer installed options, so there was no one radio or
> antenna that was used.
> Larry
> 
> On 12/19/16, 12:30 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Emiliano Ballejos"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>> 
>> Does anyone have one for sale?
>> 
>> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you
>> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave
>> some sort of deposit.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Emiliano 
>> 
>> 5910 L
>> 7205 GTS
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:44:38 +0000
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Message-ID: <D47D936F.9A1B6%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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Hey everybody,

I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues serious to date. The only past issue as the
dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might help also. ;-)

Thanks in advance for any help.

Terry


"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??
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Hey everybody,

I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
fuse (duh) is that anything else I should

look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
year, but I'm making a checklist.

PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
serious to date. The only past issue as the

dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
help also. ;-)

Thanks in advance for any help.

Terry

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

References

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:28:25 +0000
From: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
Cc: via DeTomaso Lsj <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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That's it! 

I was hoping to find someone with one off. I have a fantastic machinist and he could make a few for us. 

Regards,
Emiliano 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:15 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 4275


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:33:58 +0000
From: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
To: Vinh Ly <vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The DeTomaso
Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Who has Roland's information?

I'd like to see if he still has one.

Regards,
Emiliano

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <vinh.d.ly at gmail.com<mailto:vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>> wrote:

Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros shipping.

Vinh
'75 Euro GTS
#7445




On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy" <detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com>> wrote:
Emiliano,

I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
(Factory installed on many cars.)

See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about 5-10 minutes,
but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already been seen.

But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is available anymore either.
I'd like to find one myself!


Chuck



>I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>
>Does anyone have one for sale?
>
>Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you
>don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave
>some sort of deposit.
>
>Regards,
>Emiliano
>
>5910 L
>7205 GTS
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Who has Roland's information?

I'd like to see if he still has one.

Regards,

Emiliano
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com> wrote:

Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
shipping.
Vinh
'75 Euro GTS
#7445
On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
<[2]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:

Emiliano,
I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
?
(Factory installed on many cars.)
See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
5-10 minutes,
but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
been seen.
But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
available anymore either.
I'd like to find one myself!
Chuck
>I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>
>Does anyone have one for sale?
>
>Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
if you
>don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
leave
>some sort of deposit.
>
>Regards,
>Emiliano
>
>5910 L
>7205 GTS
>_______________________________________________
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:23:19 -0800
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The DeTomaso
Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Roland is a lurker here. 

His email is detomaso at gmx.com 

And his website is 

Www.detomaso.de

Cheers!

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 14:33, Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Who has Roland's information?
> 
> I'd like to see if he still has one.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Emiliano
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
> shipping.
> Vinh
> '75 Euro GTS
> #7445
> On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
> <[2]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Emiliano,
> I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
> ?
> (Factory installed on many cars.)
> See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
> 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
> 5-10 minutes,
> but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
> been seen.
> But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
> available anymore either.
> I'd like to find one myself!
> Chuck
>> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>> 
>> Does anyone have one for sale?
>> 
>> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
> if you
>> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
> leave
>> some sort of deposit.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Emiliano
>> 
>> 5910 L
>> 7205 GTS
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:37:41 +0000
From: Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The DeTomaso
Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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Thanks, Mike!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Roland is a lurker here. 
> 
> His email is detomaso at gmx.com 
> 
> And his website is 
> 
> Www.detomaso.de
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 14:33, Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Who has Roland's information?
>> 
>> I'd like to see if he still has one.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Emiliano
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
>> shipping.
>> Vinh
>> '75 Euro GTS
>> #7445
>> On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
>> <[2]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Emiliano,
>> I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
>> ?
>> (Factory installed on many cars.)
>> See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
>> 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
>> 5-10 minutes,
>> but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
>> been seen.
>> But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
>> available anymore either.
>> I'd like to find one myself!
>> Chuck
>>> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have one for sale?
>>> 
>>> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
>> if you
>>> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
>> leave
>>> some sort of deposit.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Emiliano
>>> 
>>> 5910 L
>>> 7205 GTS
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:07:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Email List
Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
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Terry
That would be fuse 3 if stock.
Forest

From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

? Hey everybody,

? I lost all my interior lights for some reason.? Other than checking the
? fuse (duh) is that anything else I should

? look for?? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
? year, but I'm making a checklist.

? PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
? serious to date. The only past issue as the

? dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

? If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974? #7104, that might
? help also.? ;-)

? Thanks in advance for any help.

? Terry

? "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

? ? stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

? Terry W. Himes

? JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

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? Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

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? Cell:? ? (818) 653-8213

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Terry
That would be fuse 3 if stock.
Forest
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From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Hey everybody,
I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking
the
fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
year, but I'm making a checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
serious to date. The only past issue as the
dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that
might
help also. ;-)
Thanks in advance for any help.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1][1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:13:09 -0600
From: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net>
To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, "'Email List
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
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An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D

Doug

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

Hey everybody,

I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might help also. ;-)

Thanks in advance for any help.

Terry


"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??



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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:49:41 +0000
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Message-ID: <D47DC015.9A239%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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Thanks Forest.


"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??

From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:07 PM
To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

Terry

That would be fuse 3 if stock.

Forest


________________________________
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

Hey everybody,

I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
fuse (duh) is that anything else I should

look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
year, but I'm making a checklist.

PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
serious to date. The only past issue as the

dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
help also. ;-)

Thanks in advance for any help.

Terry

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

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Thanks Forest.

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

From: Forest Goodhart <[2]forestg at att.net>
Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

Terry
That would be fuse 3 if stock.
Forest
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To: Email List Address For Posting
<[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Hey everybody,
I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking
the
fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
year, but I'm making a checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
serious to date. The only past issue as the
dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that
might
help also. ;-)
Thanks in advance for any help.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1][8]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:54:45 +0000
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net>, "'Email List Address For
Posting'" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Message-ID: <D47DC050.9A23C%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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HaHa ;-)) I don't build'em, I just fly'em. (I do build the software that helps build them tho ;-)



"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??

From: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>, 'Email List Address For Posting' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

Hey everybody,

I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer never worked.

If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might help also. ;-)

Thanks in advance for any help.

Terry


"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
??


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HaHa ;-)) I don't build'em, I just fly'em. (I do build the
software that helps build them tho ;-)

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

From: Douglas Kelm <[2]dakelm at qwest.net>
Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Email List Address For
Posting' <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark

An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera
electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D
Doug
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
Hey everybody,
I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to
this project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a
checklist.
PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer
never worked.
If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
help also. ;-)
Thanks in advance for any help.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid
enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[7]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:09:19 -0500
From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, DeTomaso Mail
List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
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I had this sort of problem crop up with my oil gauge! It was horrifying!

I went back to my fuse block and inspected all the terminals. Some
had corrosion, so I wire brushed them off. Some had loosened from the
rivets, so I restruck them.

But this is temporary at best. It *did* fix the problem but the block
is 45 years old. I'm going to keep maintaining mine but for best
safety and best reliability *upgrade* to a modern fuse block.

I shall suffer alone I hope :)

sean


On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
> fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
>
> look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
> year, but I'm making a checklist.
>
> PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
> serious to date. The only past issue as the
>
> dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
>
> If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
> help also. ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Terry
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
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-- 
Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
'65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso


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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:22:05 -0600
From: <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
To: via DeTomaso Lsj <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Emiliano
Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
Message-ID: <20161219202205.UVE3Z.63168.root at dalofep02>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized, there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a bit to locate.

Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.

JT

---- Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

=============
I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS. 

Does anyone have one for sale? 

Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave some sort of deposit. 

Regards,
Emiliano 

5910 L
7205 GTS
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:00:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>, "'Joseph F. Byrd,
Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, 'Charles McCall'
<charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Detomaso Email List'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
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Good one Larry, usually just after seeing flashing lights in mirror.....
?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
To: 'B Hower' <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; 'Charles McCall' <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email List' <detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?

Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland




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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:42 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Charles McCall'; 'Detomaso Email List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach

I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

? ? ? From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
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? 
Charles...
you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original rheostat
reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the voltage.
JFByrd/5177 

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I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can highly
recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent bulbs
did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a bright
crisp light.


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bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the
answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for
the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?

2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo, since
it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at night.

Thank you!

? Hi all
? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights
? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
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Good one Larry, usually just after seeing flashing lights in
mirror.....

Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
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Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?
Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland
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I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
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Charles...
you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
rheostat
reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
voltage.
JFByrd/5177
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I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
highly
recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
bulbs
did squat and LED's were only marginally better.  These provide a
bright
crisp light.
Julian
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Email Jon Haas.
CheersBill MooreCalgary
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How many
bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
the
answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
for
the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
since
it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
night.
Thank you!
Hi all
I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
lights
in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
gauges at night.A
Thank you!
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:30:34 +0000
From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
To: via DeTomaso Lsj <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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"...enough parts to build two cars."

Aha, so 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.


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I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized, there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a bit to locate.

Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.

JT

---- Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:

=============
I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.

Does anyone have one for sale?

Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could leave some sort of deposit.

Regards,
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"...enough parts to build two cars."

Aha, so 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.
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I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I
restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of
parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized,
there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a
bit to locate.
Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.
JT
---- Emiliano Ballejos <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
=============
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Does anyone have one for sale?
Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
leave some sort of deposit.
Regards,
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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:21:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
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Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body Pantera? If so what is the wheel offset?? Do you have any issues? What size tire are you using?Thanks,Mark
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Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body Pantera?
If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size tire
are you using?
Thanks,
Mark

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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:46:41 -0800
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full wheel
lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of tire
rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but I had
rolled fender lips.
I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:

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If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size tire
are you using?
Thanks,
Mark



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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:56:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: cengles at cox.net
To: asajay at asajay.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
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Dear Mark,


I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?) tires 
and 5 degrees positive caster. The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both 
wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs) 
using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.

Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire 
at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers. They have done so for 
about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the 
twisties. What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and 
stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at 
about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.

IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires 
plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be 
the edge or slightly beyond what is possible. I would think that 
physical modification of the fender would be required. That has been 
done to mine and is very....discrete.

Is this for ORR?


Warmest regards, Chuck Engles





On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:

> I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
> neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
> clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full 
> wheel
> lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
> abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of 
> tire
> rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but I 
> had
> rolled fender lips.
> I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> [1]http://w7tsc.org
> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
>
> Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body 
> Pantera?
> If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size 
> tire
> are you using?
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:50:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
To: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>, "asajay at asajay.com"
<asajay at asajay.com>
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Thanks for the replies

I have 18x9's on my front right now. There is slight rubbing on the inner fender wells. 
I am trying to buy some new wheels for track day use and it is hard to get? same style wheels front and rear with the right offset.? 
It looks like I'll be going with Enkei GTC01RR's? 
Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Mark


On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:56 AM, "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:


Dear Mark,


? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?) tires 
and 5 degrees positive caster.? The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both 
wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs) 
using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire 
at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers.? They have done so for 
about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the 
twisties.? What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and 
stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at 
about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires 
plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be 
the edge or slightly beyond what is possible.? I would think that 
physical modification of the fender would be required.? That has been 
done to mine and is very....discrete.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? Is this for ORR?


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles





On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:

> I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
>? ? neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
>? ? clearance was too tight.? Others on the list told me how at full 
> wheel
>? ? lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
>? ? abandoned that.? In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of 
> tire
>? ? rub.? Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but I 
> had
>? ? rolled fender lips.
>? ? I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
>? ? Asa? Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> [1]http://w7tsc.org
> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>? ? On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
>
>? ? Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body 
> Pantera?
>? ? If so what is the wheel offset?? Do you have any issues? What size 
> tire
>? ? are you using?
>? ? Thanks,
>? ? Mark
>
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Thanks for the replies
I have 18x9's on my front right now. There is slight rubbing on the
inner fender wells.
I am trying to buy some new wheels for track day use and it is hard to
get same style wheels front and rear with the right offset.
It looks like I'll be going with Enkei GTC01RR's
Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Mark
On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:56 AM, "cengles at cox.net"
<cengles at cox.net> wrote:
Dear Mark,
I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?)
tires
and 5 degrees positive caster. The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both
wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs)
using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.
Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire
at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers. They have done so for
about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the
twisties. What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and
stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at
about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.
IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires
plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be
the edge or slightly beyond what is possible. I would think that
physical modification of the fender would be required. That has been
done to mine and is very....discrete.
Is this for ORR?
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
> neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
> clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full
> wheel
> lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
> abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of
> tire
> rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but
I
> had
> rolled fender lips.
> I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
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> On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
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> Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body
> Pantera?
> If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size
> tire
> are you using?
> Thanks,
> Mark
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   Terry, know that the stock interior light dimmer is easily fixable with
   a soldering iron & a very short jumper. Inside, there's a hair-fine
   wire that carries all the current, and it breaks- probably from
   vibration.
   To fix, solder a jumper between two short copper stubs with no lugs
   attached, on the back of the dimmer. I described this fix decades ago
   in the Newsletter, and can't find the article just now. Merry
   Christmas- J DeRyke
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   21. Re: How many bulbs in the speedo/tach (B Hower)
   22. Re: Aerial Antenna for GTS (Bill Lewis)
   23. Wheel offset (mark skwarek)
   24. Re: Wheel offset (Asa Jay Laughton)
   25. Re: Wheel offset ([7]cengles at cox.net)
   26. Re: Wheel offset (mark skwarek)
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   Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC)
   From: B Hower <[8]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
   To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[9]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, 'Charles McCall'
   <[10]charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Detomaso Email List'
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
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   I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
   ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[13]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Charles McCall' <[14]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email
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   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Charles...
   you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
   rheostat
   reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
   voltage.
   JFByrd/5177
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[16]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
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   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
   To: [17]bill at incendium.com; Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
   highly
   recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
   switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
   bulbs
   did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a
   bright
   crisp light.
   Julian
   ________________________________
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Email Jon Haas.
   CheersBill MooreCalgary
   -------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
   <[21]charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19? 2:55 AM? (GMT-05:00)
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   Detomaso Email List <[22]detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso]
   How many
   bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
   the
   answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
   for
   the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since
   it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
   speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
   night.
   Thank you!
   ? Hi all
   ? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
   ? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
   ? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
   ? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   ? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
   lights
   ? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
   ? gauges at night.A
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   I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   __________________________________________________________________
   From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[27]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Charles McCall' <[28]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email
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   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Charles...
   you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
   rheostat
   reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
   voltage.
   JFByrd/5177
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[30]mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
   highly
   recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
   switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
   bulbs
   did squat and LED's were only marginally better. These provide a
   bright
   crisp light.
   Julian
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   Email Jon Haas.
   CheersBill MooreCalgary
   -------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
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   How many
   bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
   the
   answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
   for
   the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since
   it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
   speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
   night.
   Thank you!
   Hi all
   I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
   Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
   tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
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   in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
   gauges at night.A
   Thank you!
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   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:46:06 -0500
   From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <[52]Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
   To: "'B Hower'" <[53]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'"
   <[54]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, "'Charles McCall'"
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   Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?
   Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland
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   I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
   ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
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   Charles...
   you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
   rheostat
   reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
   voltage.
   JFByrd/5177
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   I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
   highly
   recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
   switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
   bulbs
   did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a
   bright
   crisp light.
   Julian
   ________________________________
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   Email Jon Haas.
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   -------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
   <[66]charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19? 2:55 AM? (GMT-05:00)
   To:
   Detomaso Email List <[67]detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso]
   How many
   bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
   the
   answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
   for
   the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since
   it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
   speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
   night.
   Thank you!
   ? Hi all
   ? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
   ? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
   ? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
   ? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   ? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
   lights
   ? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
   ? gauges at night.A
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   Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:30:28 +0000
   From: Emiliano Ballejos <[72]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   To: via DeTomaso Lsj <[73]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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   I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   Does anyone have one for sale?
   Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave some sort of deposit.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   5910 L
   7205 GTS
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   Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:59:33 -0800
   From: Larry Stock <[75]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   To: Emiliano Ballejos <[76]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>, via DeTomaso Lsj
   <[77]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID: <D47D89D5.184A68%[78]larrys at panteraparts.com>
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   All radio?s were dealer installed options, so there was no one radio or
   antenna that was used.
   Larry
   On 12/19/16, 12:30 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Emiliano Ballejos"
   <detomaso-[79]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [80]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >
   >Does anyone have one for sale?
   >
   >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you
   >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >some sort of deposit.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Emiliano
   >
   >5910 L
   >7205 GTS
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   Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:15:06 -0800
   From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[83]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   To: "'Emiliano Ballejos'" <[84]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>, "'via DeTomaso
   Lsj'"
   <[85]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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   Emiliano,
   I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
   (Factory installed on many cars.)
   See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about 5-10
   minutes,
   but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   been seen.
   But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is available
   anymore either.
   I'd like to find one myself!
   Chuck
   >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >
   >Does anyone have one for sale?
   >
   >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you
   >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >some sort of deposit.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Emiliano
   >
   >5910 L
   >7205 GTS
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   Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:22:16 GMT
   From: "[90]gonancy at juno.com" <[91]gonancy at juno.com>
   To: [92]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Roof antenna
   Message-ID: <[93]20161219.132216.31319.0 at webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   I realise this is no help but I bought my roof antenna at the de Tomaso
   factory when we attended the de Tomaso Love In in 1996.
   It was REALLY nerve racking to drilling that hole in the roof.
   Really pleased with the antenna even though I don't have a radio!
   GoNancy
   ____________________________________________________________
   Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This
   Gundry MD
   [94]http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/58584fc42a7ac4fc45f6bst01v
   uc
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   Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:32:56 -0500
   From: Vinh Ly <[95]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
   To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[96]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Cc: Pantera Mail List <[97]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID:
   <CAGJh1TYZC7O03SGTc5Jya0vSj88X9R+8bodKhVT-[98]OpTTzNR8Hg at mail.gmail.com
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   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
   shipping.
   Vinh
   '75 Euro GTS
   #7445
   On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy" <
   [99]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   > Emiliano,
   >
   > I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
   > (Factory installed on many cars.)
   >
   > See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   > 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
   5-10
   > minutes,
   > but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   been
   > seen.
   >
   > But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
   available
   > anymore either.
   > I'd like to find one myself!
   >
   >
   > Chuck
   >
   >
   >
   > >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   > >
   > >Does anyone have one for sale?
   > >
   > >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you
   > >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   > >some sort of deposit.
   > >
   > >Regards,
   > >Emiliano
   > >
   > >5910 L
   > >7205 GTS
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   Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
   shipping.A
   Vinh
   '75 Euro GTS
   #7445
   On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
   <[1][106]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   Emiliano,
   I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
   ?
   (Factory installed on many cars.)
   See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
   5-10 minutes,
   but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   been seen.
   But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
   available anymore either.
   I'd like to find one myself!
   Chuck
   >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >
   >Does anyone have one for sale?
   >
   >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
   if you
   >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >some sort of deposit.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Emiliano
   >
   >5910 L
   >7205 GTS
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   Message: 8
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:35:04 -0800
   From: Larry Finch <[120]fresnofinches at aol.com>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   <[121]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID: <3DF43DE2-FED1-473C-AE84-[122]8240C3CE8592 at aol.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Actually, there appears to be a ?factory correct? antenna.
   The roof mount unit, listed in bright or black finish, appears on page
   67 of the black cover with red GT5S parts catalog.
   Suspect it is a common-to-the-era Italian part found on Fiat or Alfa
   Romeo?
   Larry
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   Actually, there appears to be a `factory correct' antenna.
   The roof mount unit, listed in bright or black finish, appears on page
   67 of the black cover with red GT5S parts catalog.
   Suspect it is a common-to-the-era Italian part found on Fiat or Alfa
   Romeo?
   Larry
   [cid:35BDD6F2-7894-4243-9B52-[123]9974C0BC50B5 at attlocal.net]
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   Message: 9
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:42:44 -0800
   From: Mike Drew <[125]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   To: Larry Stock <[126]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   Cc: via DeTomaso Lsj <[127]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID: <61EAF804-AA29-4A80-AC74-[128]A7B9D1F621BE at aol.com>
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   ...except for the 1970s Euro GTS. Those normally came with radios and
   the factory had a specific antenna they used. The later GT5 and GT5-S
   used a slightly different model, but they all seemed to have them.
   But when speaking about 1971-74 US cars (Including the US GTS), yes,
   you're right.
   --there was no antenna standardization although most were fitted to the
   left front fender.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Larry Stock
   <[129]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
   >
   > All radio?s were dealer installed options, so there was no one radio
   or
   > antenna that was used.
   > Larry
   >
   > On 12/19/16, 12:30 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Emiliano Ballejos"
   > <detomaso-[130]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   > [131]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >>
   >> Does anyone have one for sale?
   >>
   >> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you
   >> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >> some sort of deposit.
   >>
   >> Regards,
   >> Emiliano
   >>
   >> 5910 L
   >> 7205 GTS
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   Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:44:38 +0000
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[136]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
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   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID: <D47D936F.9A1B6%[138]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   year, but I'm making a checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the
   dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [139]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[140]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   ??
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   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   year, but I'm making a checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the
   dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [1][141]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   References
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   Message: 11
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:28:25 +0000
   From: Emiliano Ballejos <[143]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[144]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Cc: via DeTomaso Lsj <[145]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID:
   <[146]BY2PR1201MB1031636EE770C0FF255ECCD994910 at BY2PR1201MB1031.namprd12
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   That's it!
   I was hoping to find someone with one off. I have a fantastic machinist
   and he could make a few for us.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:15 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy
   <[147]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > 4275
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   Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:33:58 +0000
   From: Emiliano Ballejos <[148]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   To: Vinh Ly <[149]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
   Cc: Pantera Mail List <[150]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The
   DeTomaso
   Registry Guy <[151]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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   Who has Roland's information?
   I'd like to see if he still has one.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly
   <[153]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com<[154]mailto:vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>> wrote:
   Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
   shipping.
   Vinh
   '75 Euro GTS
   #7445
   On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
   <[155]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<[156]mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   >> wrote:
   Emiliano,
   I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna ?
   (Factory installed on many cars.)
   See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about 5-10
   minutes,
   but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   been seen.
   But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is available
   anymore either.
   I'd like to find one myself!
   Chuck
   >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >
   >Does anyone have one for sale?
   >
   >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you
   >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >some sort of deposit.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Emiliano
   >
   >5910 L
   >7205 GTS
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   Who has Roland's information?
   I'd like to see if he still has one.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1][166]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
   shipping.
   Vinh
   '75 Euro GTS
   #7445
   On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
   <[2][167]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   Emiliano,
   I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
   ?
   (Factory installed on many cars.)
   See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
   5-10 minutes,
   but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   been seen.
   But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
   available anymore either.
   I'd like to find one myself!
   Chuck
   >I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >
   >Does anyone have one for sale?
   >
   >Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
   if you
   >don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave
   >some sort of deposit.
   >
   >Regards,
   >Emiliano
   >
   >5910 L
   >7205 GTS
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   Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:23:19 -0800
   From: Mike Drew <[182]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   To: Emiliano Ballejos <[183]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   Cc: Pantera Mail List <[184]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The
   DeTomaso
   Registry Guy <[185]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID: <B374BD6F-5B93-4E52-8642-[186]64F7D0AAA458 at aol.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   Roland is a lurker here.
   His email is [187]detomaso at gmx.com
   And his website is
   [188]Www.detomaso.de
   Cheers!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Dec 19, 2016, at 14:33, Emiliano Ballejos
   <[189]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   > Who has Roland's information?
   >
   > I'd like to see if he still has one.
   >
   > Regards,
   >
   > Emiliano
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   > On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1][190]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38 euros
   > shipping.
   > Vinh
   > '75 Euro GTS
   > #7445
   > On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
   > <[2][191]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Emiliano,
   > I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
   > ?
   > (Factory installed on many cars.)
   > See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   > 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
   > 5-10 minutes,
   > but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   > been seen.
   > But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
   > available anymore either.
   > I'd like to find one myself!
   > Chuck
   >> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >>
   >> Does anyone have one for sale?
   >>
   >> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
   > if you
   >> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   > leave
   >> some sort of deposit.
   >>
   >> Regards,
   >> Emiliano
   >>
   >> 5910 L
   >> 7205 GTS
   >> _______________________________________________
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   > 2. [199]mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > 3. [200]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 4. [201]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 5. [202]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 6. [203]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 7. [204]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:37:41 +0000
   From: Emiliano Ballejos <[208]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   To: Mike Drew <[209]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: Pantera Mail List <[210]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, The
   DeTomaso
   Registry Guy <[211]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID:
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   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   Thanks, Mike!
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Mike Drew <[213]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Roland is a lurker here.
   >
   > His email is [214]detomaso at gmx.com
   >
   > And his website is
   >
   > [215]Www.detomaso.de
   >
   > Cheers!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >> On Dec 19, 2016, at 14:33, Emiliano Ballejos
   <[216]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> Who has Roland's information?
   >>
   >> I'd like to see if he still has one.
   >>
   >> Regards,
   >>
   >> Emiliano
   >> Sent from my iPhone
   >>
   >> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Vinh Ly <[1][217]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >>
   >> Fwiw, Roland Jaeckel had them last year for about 70 euros + 38
   euros
   >> shipping.
   >> Vinh
   >> '75 Euro GTS
   >> #7445
   >> On Dec 19, 2016 4:15 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
   >> <[2][218]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> Emiliano,
   >> I presume you are looking for the European-market style GTS antenna
   >> ?
   >> (Factory installed on many cars.)
   >> See the registry, Pantera 4275 for a photo to review.
   >> 4275 is getting updated right now, and should be complete in about
   >> 5-10 minutes,
   >> but the antenna photo is from an earlier 'sharing' so it can already
   >> been seen.
   >> But before you get your hopes up, I am not sure this style is
   >> available anymore either.
   >> I'd like to find one myself!
   >> Chuck
   >>> I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   >>>
   >>> Does anyone have one for sale?
   >>>
   >>> Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy
   >> if you
   >>> don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   >> leave
   >>> some sort of deposit.
   >>>
   >>> Regards,
   >>> Emiliano
   >>>
   >>> 5910 L
   >>> 7205 GTS
   >>> _______________________________________________
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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   >> References
   >>
   >> 1. [225]mailto:vinh.d.ly at gmail.com
   >> 2. [226]mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   >> 3. [227]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 4. [228]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   >> 5. [229]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 6. [230]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   >> 7. [231]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 8. [232]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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   Message: 15
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:07:25 +0000 (UTC)
   From: Forest Goodhart <[235]forestg at att.net>
   To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[236]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Email List
   Address For Posting <[237]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID: <[238]1445822333.1936634.1482192445553 at mail.yahoo.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Terry
   That would be fuse 3 if stock.
   Forest
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[239]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   <[240]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   ? Hey everybody,
   ? I lost all my interior lights for some reason.? Other than checking
   the
   ? fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   ? look for?? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   ? year, but I'm making a checklist.
   ? PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   ? serious to date. The only past issue as the
   ? dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   ? If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974? #7104, that
   might
   ? help also.? ;-)
   ? Thanks in advance for any help.
   ? Terry
   ? "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   ? ? stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   ? Terry W. Himes
   ? JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   ? Dawn Spacecraft Team
   ? Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   ? Phone: (818) 393-6261
   ? Cell:? ? (818) 653-8213
   ? Fax:? ? (818) 393-3147
   ? [1][241]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   References
   ? 1. [242]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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   Terry
   That would be fuse 3 if stock.
   Forest
   __________________________________________________________________
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[245]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   <[246]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking
   the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   year, but I'm making a checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the
   dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that
   might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [1][1][247]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   References
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   2. [252]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   3. [253]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. [254]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   ------------------------------
   Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:13:09 -0600
   From: "Douglas Kelm" <[255]dakelm at qwest.net>
   To: "'Himes, Terry \(397C\)'" <[256]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, "'Email
   List
   Address For Posting'" <[257]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID: <004501d25a55$d9bf7950$8d3e6bf0$@net>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera
   electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D
   Doug
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[258]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to this
   project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a
   checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer
   never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid
   enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [259]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[260]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   ??
   ------------------------------
   Message: 17
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:49:41 +0000
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[261]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   <[262]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID: <D47DC015.9A239%[263]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Thanks Forest.
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [264]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[265]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   ??
   From: Forest Goodhart
   <[266]forestg at att.net<[267]mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   Reply-To: Forest Goodhart
   <[268]forestg at att.net<[269]mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:07 PM
   To: Terry Himes
   <[270]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[271]mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>,
   Email List Address For Posting
   <[272]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[273]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
   masolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Terry
   That would be fuse 3 if stock.
   Forest
   ________________________________
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[274]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[275]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   <[276]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[277]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
   masolist.com>>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   year, but I'm making a checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the
   dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [1][278]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[279]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   References
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   Thanks Forest.
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
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   [1][284]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   From: Forest Goodhart <[2][285]forestg at att.net>
   Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[3][286]forestg at att.net>
   Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:07 PM
   To: Terry Himes <[4][287]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Email List Address
   For
   Posting <[5][288]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Terry
   That would be fuse 3 if stock.
   Forest
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   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[6][289]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Email List Address For Posting
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   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:44 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking
   the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   year, but I'm making a checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the
   dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that
   might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [1][8][291]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   References
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   Message: 18
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:54:45 +0000
   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[306]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: Douglas Kelm <[307]dakelm at qwest.net>, "'Email List Address For
   Posting'" <[308]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID: <D47DC050.9A23C%[309]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   HaHa ;-)) I don't build'em, I just fly'em. (I do build the software
   that helps build them tho ;-)
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [310]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[311]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   ??
   From: Douglas Kelm
   <[312]dakelm at qwest.net<[313]mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>
   Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:13 PM
   To: Terry Himes
   <[314]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[315]mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>,
   'Email List Address For Posting'
   <[316]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[317]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
   masolist.com>>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera
   electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D
   Doug
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[318]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to this
   project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a
   checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer
   never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid
   enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [319]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[320]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes
   @jpl.nasa.gov>
   ??
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   HaHa ;-)) I don't build'em, I just fly'em. (I do build the
   software that helps build them tho ;-)
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [1][321]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   From: Douglas Kelm <[2][322]dakelm at qwest.net>
   Date: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:13 PM
   To: Terry Himes <[3][323]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Email List Address
   For
   Posting' <[4][324]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   An actual, real life rocket scientist is stymied by a Pantera
   electrical issue! Can The Rapture be far off? ;<D
   Doug
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso
   [[5][325]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:45 PM
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Hey everybody,
   I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking the
   fuse (duh) is that anything else I should look for? I won't get to
   this project until I get back after the new year, but I'm making a
   checklist.
   PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   serious to date. The only past issue as the dashboard lights dimmer
   never worked.
   If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   help also. ;-)
   Thanks in advance for any help.
   Terry
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid
   enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell: (818) 653-8213
   Fax: (818) 393-3147
   [6][326]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[7][327]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   References
   1. [328]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   2. [329]mailto:dakelm at qwest.net
   3. [330]mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   4. [331]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   5. [332]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   6. [333]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   7. [334]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   ------------------------------
   Message: 19
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:09:19 -0500
   From: Sean Korb <[335]spkorb at gmail.com>
   To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[336]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, DeTomaso
   Mail
   List <[337]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cockpit went dark
   Message-ID:
   <[338]CABpzvs8Wfb7q++FiBKBXSFq_Bc487LCanYBgJESUpzgE7v9yLg at mail.gmail.co
   m>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
   I had this sort of problem crop up with my oil gauge! It was
   horrifying!
   I went back to my fuse block and inspected all the terminals. Some
   had corrosion, so I wire brushed them off. Some had loosened from the
   rivets, so I restruck them.
   But this is temporary at best. It *did* fix the problem but the block
   is 45 years old. I'm going to keep maintaining mine but for best
   safety and best reliability *upgrade* to a modern fuse block.
   I shall suffer alone I hope :)
   sean
   On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
   <[339]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
   > Hey everybody,
   >
   > I lost all my interior lights for some reason. Other than checking
   the
   > fuse (duh) is that anything else I should
   >
   > look for? I won't get to this project until I get back after the new
   > year, but I'm making a checklist.
   >
   > PS - The electrical system is stock and old, but never had any issues
   > serious to date. The only past issue as the
   >
   > dashboard lights dimmer never worked.
   >
   > If any one would know which fuse to check on a 1974 #7104, that might
   > help also. ;-)
   >
   > Thanks in advance for any help.
   >
   > Terry
   >
   > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   >
   > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes
   >
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   > Dawn Spacecraft Team
   >
   > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >
   > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   >
   > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   >
   > [1][340]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. [341]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
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   Sean Korb [344]spkorb at spkorb.org [345]http://www.spkorb.org
   '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
   "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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   Message: 20
   Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:22:05 -0600
   From: <[346]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
   To: via DeTomaso Lsj <[347]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Emiliano
   Ballejos <[348]mghibli7 at hotmail.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   Message-ID: <20161219202205.UVE3Z.63168.root at dalofep02>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I
   restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of
   parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized,
   there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a
   bit to locate.
   Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.
   JT
   ---- Emiliano Ballejos <[349]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   =============
   I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   Does anyone have one for sale?
   Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave some sort of deposit.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   5910 L
   7205 GTS
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   Message: 21
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:00:23 +0000 (UTC)
   From: B Hower <[353]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
   To: Larry - Ohio Time <[354]Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>, "'Joseph F. Byrd,
   Jr.'" <[355]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>, 'Charles McCall'
   <[356]charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Detomaso Email List'
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Message-ID: <[358]288607812.2023140.1482202823644 at mail.yahoo.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Good one Larry, usually just after seeing flashing lights in
   mirror.....
   ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   From: Larry - Ohio Time <[359]Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
   To: 'B Hower' <[360]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'"
   <[361]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; 'Charles McCall'
   <[362]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email List'
   <[363]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:46 PM
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?
   Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[364]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On Behalf
   Of B Hower via DeTomaso
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:42 PM
   To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Charles McCall'; 'Detomaso Email List'
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
   ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   ? ? ? From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[365]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Charles McCall' <[366]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email
   List'
   <[367]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   ?
   Charles...
   you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
   rheostat
   reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
   voltage.
   JFByrd/5177
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[368]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
   To: [369]bill at incendium.com; Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
   highly
   recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
   switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
   bulbs
   did squat and LED's were only marginally better.? These provide a
   bright
   crisp light.
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[370]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
   [371]bill at incendium.com <[372]bill at incendium.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:22:39 AM
   To: Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Email Jon Haas.
   CheersBill MooreCalgary
   -------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
   <[373]charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19? 2:55 AM? (GMT-05:00)
   To:
   Detomaso Email List <[374]detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject:
   [DeTomaso] How many
   bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
   the
   answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
   for
   the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since
   it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
   speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
   night.
   Thank you!
   ? Hi all
   ? I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
   ? Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
   ? tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
   ? 2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   ? since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
   lights
   ? in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
   ? gauges at night.A
   ? Thank you!
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   Good one Larry, usually just after seeing flashing lights in
   mirror.....
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   __________________________________________________________________
   From: Larry - Ohio Time <[379]Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
   To: 'B Hower' <[380]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'"
   <[381]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; 'Charles McCall'
   <[382]charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
   'Detomaso Email List' <[383]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:46 PM
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Bud, when did you start looking at the speedometer?
   Larry (out of foucus) - Cleveland
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso
   [[384]mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of B Hower via DeTomaso
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:42 PM
   To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; 'Charles McCall'; 'Detomaso Email List'
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I haven't found the need to dim speedometer lighting.
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[2][385]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Charles McCall' <[3][386]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Email
   List'
   <[4][387]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:32 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Charles...
   you realize the LEDs will not "dim" proper with just the original
   rheostat
   reducing their voltage, you would need an LED dimmer to pulse the
   voltage.
   JFByrd/5177
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso
   [[388]mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:58 AM
   To: [6][389]bill at incendium.com; Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   I only used one per gauge for the lights on function, however I can
   highly
   recommend them. I went with virtually no speedo and tach (other gauges
   switched for VDO) visibility at night for years as the incandescent
   bulbs
   did squat and LED's were only marginally better. These provide a
   bright
   crisp light.
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <[7]detomaso-[390]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf
   of
   [8][391]bill at incendium.com <[9][392]bill at incendium.com>
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:22:39 AM
   To: Charles McCall; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How many bulbs in the speedo/tach
   Email Jon Haas.
   CheersBill MooreCalgary
   -------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall
   <[10][393]charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2016-12-19 2:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
   To:
   Detomaso Email List <[11][394]detomaso at detomasolist.com> Subject:
   [DeTomaso]
   How many
   bulbs in the speedo/tach Hi all I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for
   the
   answer... If I would like Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps
   for
   the speedometer and tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since
   it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning lights in the
   speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the gauges at
   night.
   Thank you!
   Hi all
   I'm at work and in kind of a hurry for the answer... If I would like
   Santa to bring me some shiny, new LED lamps for the speedometer and
   tachometer, how many do I need per gauge?A
   2 per gauge, right? Hard to tell from the Pantera Electronics photo,
   since it looks like they are also replacing some of the warning
   lights
   in the speedometer. All I'm looking to do is to be able to see the
   gauges at night.A
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   Message: 22
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:30:34 +0000
   From: Bill Lewis <[414]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   To: via DeTomaso Lsj <[415]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
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   "...enough parts to build two cars."
   Aha, so 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.
   ________________________________
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   Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:22 AM
   To: via DeTomaso Lsj; Emiliano Ballejos
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I
   restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of
   parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized,
   there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a
   bit to locate.
   Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.
   JT
   ---- Emiliano Ballejos <[420]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   =============
   I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   Does anyone have one for sale?
   Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave some sort of deposit.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   5910 L
   7205 GTS
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   "...enough parts to build two cars."
   Aha, so 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.
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   Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:22 AM
   To: via DeTomaso Lsj; Emiliano Ballejos
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial Antenna for GTS
   I believe that I have a used one. I removed it from my GT5 when I
   restored it since I removed the radio. I'll look into my inventory of
   parts, that are stored in my garage attic, to find it. While organized,
   there are probably enough parts to build two cars. Thus, it may take a
   bit to locate.
   Here is a pic of the Pantera with it in place.
   JT
   ---- Emiliano Ballejos <[427]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:
   =============
   I am looking for a roof mount aerial antenna for a GTS.
   Does anyone have one for sale?
   Or maybe one on the shelf that I could borrow/rent to make a copy if
   you don't want to sell? Obviously I'd pay shipping both ways and could
   leave some sort of deposit.
   Regards,
   Emiliano
   5910 L
   7205 GTS
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   Message: 23
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:21:34 +0000 (UTC)
   From: mark skwarek <[432]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
   To: DeTomaso Mail List <[433]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
   Message-ID: <[434]1953135468.2054543.1482207694053 at mail.yahoo.com>
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   Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body Pantera?
   If so what is the wheel offset?? Do you have any issues? What size tire
   are you using?Thanks,Mark
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   Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body Pantera?
   If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size tire
   are you using?
   Thanks,
   Mark
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   Message: 24
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:46:41 -0800
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <[435]asajay at asajay.com>
   To: [436]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
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   I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
   neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
   clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full wheel
   lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
   abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of tire
   rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but I had
   rolled fender lips.
   I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
   Asa Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
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   [2][439]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
   Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body Pantera?
   If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size tire
   are you using?
   Thanks,
   Mark
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   Message: 25
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:56:26 +0000 (GMT)
   From: [448]cengles at cox.net
   To: [449]asajay at asajay.com
   Cc: [450]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
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   Dear Mark,
   I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?) tires
   and 5 degrees positive caster. The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both
   wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs)
   using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.
   Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire
   at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers. They have done so for
   about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the
   twisties. What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and
   stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at
   about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.
   IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires
   plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be
   the edge or slightly beyond what is possible. I would think that
   physical modification of the fender would be required. That has been
   done to mine and is very....discrete.
   Is this for ORR?
   Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
   > I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
   > neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
   > clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full
   > wheel
   > lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
   > abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of
   > tire
   > rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but I
   > had
   > rolled fender lips.
   > I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
   > Asa Jay
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > & Shelley Marie
   > Spokane, WA
   > ******************************
   > [1][452]http://w7tsc.org
   > [2][453]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   >
   > On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
   >
   > Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body
   > Pantera?
   > If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size
   > tire
   > are you using?
   > Thanks,
   > Mark
   >
   >
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   Message: 26
   Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:50:42 +0000 (UTC)
   From: mark skwarek <[464]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
   To: "[465]cengles at cox.net" <[466]cengles at cox.net>,
   "[467]asajay at asajay.com"
   <[468]asajay at asajay.com>
   Cc: "[469]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel offset
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   Thanks for the replies
   I have 18x9's on my front right now. There is slight rubbing on the
   inner fender wells.
   I am trying to buy some new wheels for track day use and it is hard to
   get? same style wheels front and rear with the right offset.?
   It looks like I'll be going with Enkei GTC01RR's?
   Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
   Mark
   On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:56 AM, "[472]cengles at cox.net"
   <[473]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   Dear Mark,
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?)
   tires
   and 5 degrees positive caster.? The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both
   wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs)
   using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire
   at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers.? They have done so for
   about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the
   twisties.? What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and
   stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at
   about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires
   plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be
   the edge or slightly beyond what is possible.? I would think that
   physical modification of the fender would be required.? That has been
   done to mine and is very....discrete.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Is this for ORR?
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles
   On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
   > I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
   >? ? neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
   >? ? clearance was too tight.? Others on the list told me how at full
   > wheel
   >? ? lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
   >? ? abandoned that.? In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of
   > tire
   >? ? rub.? Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but
   I
   > had
   >? ? rolled fender lips.
   >? ? I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
   >? ? Asa? Jay
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > & Shelley Marie
   > Spokane, WA
   > ******************************
   > [1][474]http://w7tsc.org
   > [2][475]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   >
   >? ? On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
   >
   >? ? Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body
   > Pantera?
   >? ? If so what is the wheel offset?? Do you have any issues? What size
   > tire
   >? ? are you using?
   >? ? Thanks,
   >? ? Mark
   >
   >
   >
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   Thanks for the replies
   I have 18x9's on my front right now. There is slight rubbing on the
   inner fender wells.
   I am trying to buy some new wheels for track day use and it is hard to
   get same style wheels front and rear with the right offset.
   It looks like I'll be going with Enkei GTC01RR's
   Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
   Mark
   On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:56 AM, "[488]cengles at cox.net"
   <[489]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   Dear Mark,
   I have one Pantera with front 17x9 and 245-17-45 (?)
   tires
   and 5 degrees positive caster. The other one has 17 x 9 wheels (both
   wheels with offset and backspace per Pantera Performance Center specs)
   using 255-17-40 (?) tires and 4 degrees positive caster.
   Yes, the left front inner fender gets rubbed by the tire
   at low speed full lock parking lots maneuvers. They have done so for
   about twenty years and it no big deal and is not an issue on the
   twisties. What is an issue with those sizes and increased caster and
   stock fenders is the outside edge of the tire kissing the fender lip at
   about 10 o'clock on the left and 2 o'clock on the right.
   IMHO, I think that 18 x 9.5 wheels and appropriate tires
   plus the amount of increased caster for high speed stability would be
   the edge or slightly beyond what is possible. I would think that
   physical modification of the fender would be required. That has been
   done to mine and is very....discrete.
   Is this for ORR?
   Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
   > I tried some 9" wide wheels on my stock bodied 1973 L model, with a
   > neutral offset (to center it in the wheel well) and for me, the
   > clearance was too tight. Others on the list told me how at full
   > wheel
   > lock, 9" wheels caused tires to rub on the inner wheel wells, so I
   > abandoned that. In fact, even with 8" wheels I had evidence of
   > tire
   > rub. Clearance to the outer fender lip is also questionable, but
   I
   > had
   > rolled fender lips.
   > I personally would avoid 9.5" on the front.
   > Asa Jay
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > & Shelley Marie
   > Spokane, WA
   > ******************************
   > [1][1][490]http://w7tsc.org
   > [2][2][491]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   >
   > On 12/19/2016 8:21 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
   >
   > Is anyone using an 18x9.5 wheel on the front of a narrow body
   > Pantera?
   > If so what is the wheel offset? Do you have any issues? What size
   > tire
   > are you using?
   > Thanks,
   > Mark
   >
   >
   >
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 122. mailto:8240C3CE8592 at aol.com
 123. mailto:9974C0BC50B5 at attlocal.net
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 125. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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 138. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
 139. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
 140. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
 141. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
 142. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
 143. mailto:mghibli7 at hotmail.com
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 357. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 358. mailto:288607812.2023140.1482202823644 at mail.yahoo.com
 359. mailto:Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com
 360. mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
 361. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
 362. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 363. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 364. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 365. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
 366. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 367. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 368. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 369. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 370. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
 371. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 372. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 373. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 374. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 375. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 376. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 377. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 378. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 379. mailto:Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com
 380. mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
 381. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
 382. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 383. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 384. mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 385. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
 386. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 387. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 388. mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 389. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 390. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
 391. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 392. mailto:bill at incendium.com
 393. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
 394. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
 395. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 396. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 397. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 398. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 399. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 400. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com?
 401. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com?
 402. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com?
 403. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 404. mailto:bill at incendium.com?
 405. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 406. mailto:bill at incendium.com?
 407. mailto:bill at incendium.com?
 408. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com?
 409. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com?
 410. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 411. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 412. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 413. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 414. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com
 415. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 416. mailto:DM5PR18MB0988E562BEBCF6FCC5226B62BB900 at DM5PR18MB0988.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
 417. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
 418. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
 419. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
 420. mailto:mghibli7 at hotmail.com
 421. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 422. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 423. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 424. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
 425. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
 426. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
 427. mailto:mghibli7 at hotmail.com
 428. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 429. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 430. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 431. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 432. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
 433. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 434. mailto:1953135468.2054543.1482207694053 at mail.yahoo.com
 435. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
 436. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 437. mailto:58594451.3030306 at asajay.com
 438. http://w7tsc.org/
 439. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 440. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 441. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 442. http://www.avg.com/
 443. http://w7tsc.org/
 444. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 445. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 446. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 447. http://www.avg.com/
 448. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 449. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
 450. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 451. mailto:b5322b.1270a.1591cf2ba5a.Webtop.0 at cox.net
 452. http://w7tsc.org/
 453. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 454. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 455. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 456. http://www.avg.com/
 457. http://w7tsc.org/
 458. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 459. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 460. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 461. http://www.avg.com/
 462. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 463. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 464. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
 465. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 466. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 467. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
 468. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
 469. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 470. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 471. mailto:1899599459.2379846.1482252642852 at mail.yahoo.com
 472. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 473. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 474. http://w7tsc.org/
 475. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 476. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 477. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 478. http://www.avg.com/
 479. http://w7tsc.org/
 480. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 481. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 482. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 483. http://www.avg.com/
 484. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 485. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 486. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 487. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 488. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 489. mailto:cengles at cox.net
 490. http://w7tsc.org/
 491. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 492. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 493. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 494. http://www.avg.com/
 495. http://w7tsc.org/
 496. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 497. mailto:[7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 498. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 499. http://www.avg.com/
 500. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 501. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 502. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 503. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 504. http://w7tsc.org/
 505. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 506. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 507. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 508. http://w7tsc.org/
 509. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
 510. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 511. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 512. http://www.avg.com/
 513. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 514. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 515. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 516. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 517. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 518. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso


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