[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 150, Issue 25

Joe Bianco biancoj at aol.com
Fri Dec 23 14:09:50 EST 2016


When I first insured my Pantera in 1978 I was 22 and shocked at the price of insurance and the only reasonable rate was Progressive at $1000 for 6 months of drivable weather. 

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>   2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 150, Issue 23 (adin at frontier.net)
>   3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 150, Issue 23 (Larry - Ohio Time)
>   4. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Mike Thomas)
>   5. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (bill at incendium.com)
>   6. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (B Hower)
>   7. Longchamp diagram (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)
>   8. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Ed Mendez)
>   9. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Mike Drew)
>  10. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Ed Mendez)
>  11. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Mike Thomas)
>  12. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (David)
>  13. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Larry Stock)
>  14. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Christopher Kimball)
>  15. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Effie Richards)
>  16. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (shawkins777 at comcast.net)
>  17. Re: Haggerty - Pantera value (Julian Kift)
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> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:49:47 -0500
> From: laurieferrari at aol.com
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, audionut at hushmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Roaring through the mountains
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> I was waiting for a different ending ... thought it was some friendly Pantera owner madly trying to catch up with you for a chat. 
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> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:00:51 -0800
> From: audionut at hushmail.com
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Beep beep!
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> Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
> in my Pantera.   In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these
> roads I never had someone sneak up and start tailing me.  Never even
> once. Until last month.  I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up
> the mountain and this tiny little car with tiny little "HotWheels"
> tires comically sticking out of it's wells starts catching up to me.
> I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker.  C ya.  For
> a few seconds, that is--  then it comes right back up on me.   What
> the hell?  I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit.  Same thing
> again.  I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again, right
> back on my butt. Well then, let's see what this kid can do.  I hit the
> throttle and go just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road
> I'm on, which commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with
> precious little room to pass them.   I lose this little white mouse a
> bit longer this time but, sure enough it started catching up to me.
> Well screw it.  I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
> death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner.  Done. I
> pull over at the next turnout.  Get thee gone, vile rodent!  Enough! 
> You win!
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>   I was waiting for a different ending ... thought it was some friendly
>   Pantera owner madly trying to catch up with you for a chat.
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>   Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:00:51 -0800
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>   Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
>   in my Pantera. In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these
>   roads I never had someone sneak up and start tailing me. Never even
>   once. Until last month. I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up
>   the mountain and this tiny little car with tiny little "HotWheels"
>   tires comically sticking out of it's wells starts catching up to me.
>   I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker. C ya. For
>   a few seconds, that is-- then it comes right back up on me. What
>   the hell? I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit. Same thing
>   again. I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again, right
>   back on my butt. Well then, let's see what this kid can do. I hit the
>   throttle and go just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road
>   I'm on, which commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with
>   precious little room to pass them. I lose this little white mouse a
>   bit longer this time but, sure enough it started catching up to me.
>   Well screw it. I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
>   death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner. Done. I
>   pull over at the next turnout. Get thee gone, vile rodent! Enough!
>   You win!
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> "They" say it's more fun to drive a slow car fast---- I once had a great time chasing Panteras down "my road" (Red Mountain pass) in my turbo Miata. 
> 
> We all must misbehave occasionally !
> 
> Keep the rubber side down. 
> 
> David in a snowy Durango
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> Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
> in my Pantera.   In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these
> roads I never had someone sneak up and start tailing me.  Never even
> once. Until last month.  I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up
> the mountain and this tiny little car with tiny little "HotWheels"
> tires comically sticking out of it's wells starts catching up to me.
> I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker.  C ya.  For
> a few seconds, that is--  then it comes right back up on me.   What
> the hell?  I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit.  Same thing
> again.  I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again, right
> back on my butt. Well then, let's see what this kid can do.  I hit the
> throttle and go just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road
> I'm on, which commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with
> precious little room to pass them.   I lose this little white mouse a
> bit longer this time but, sure enough it started catching up to me.
> Well screw it.  I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
> death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner.  Done. I
> pull over at the next turnout.  Get thee gone, vile rodent!  Enough! 
> You win!
> Sent using Hushmail
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>  Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
>  in my Pantera.
> 
> 
> 
>  In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these roads I never had
>  someone sneak up and start tailing me.  Never even once.
> 
> 
> 
>  Until last month.
> 
> 
> 
>  I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up the mountain and this tiny
>  little car with tiny little "HotWheels" tires comically sticking out of
>  it's wells starts catching up to me.
> 
>  I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker.  C ya.  For a
>  few seconds, that is--  then it comes right back up on me.
> 
> 
> 
>  What the hell?  I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit.  Same
>  thing again.  I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again,
>  right back on my butt.
> 
> 
> 
>  Well then, let's see what this kid can do.  I hit the throttle and go
>  just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road I'm on, which
>  commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with precious little
>  room to pass them.
> 
> 
> 
>  I lose this little white mouse a bit longer this time but, sure enough
>  it started catching up to me.
> 
> 
> 
>  Well screw it.  I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
>  death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner.  Done.
> 
> 
> 
>  I pull over at the next turnout.  Get thee gone, vile rodent!  Enough!
>   You win!
> 
>  Sent using Hushmail
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> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
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> Dave I call this the "Oh Shit Quotient". I can drive my MGB around a corner
> at 30 MPH at the edge of the cars capability and have all kinds of fun.  Any
> of my other cars would need to be going much faster to have the same
> enjoyment.
> 
> Look at how much fun a go kart can be!
> 
> Larry (slow & fun) - Cleveland
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> "They" say it's more fun to drive a slow car fast---- I once had a great
> time chasing Panteras down "my road" (Red Mountain pass) in my turbo Miata. 
> 
> We all must misbehave occasionally !
> 
> Keep the rubber side down. 
> 
> David in a snowy Durango
> 
> Sent from my little handheld gizmo. 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:00:51 -0800
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> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Beep beep!
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> 
> Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
> in my Pantera.   In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these
> roads I never had someone sneak up and start tailing me.  Never even
> once. Until last month.  I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up
> the mountain and this tiny little car with tiny little "HotWheels"
> tires comically sticking out of it's wells starts catching up to me.
> I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker.  C ya.  For
> a few seconds, that is--  then it comes right back up on me.   What
> the hell?  I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit.  Same thing
> again.  I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again, right
> back on my butt. Well then, let's see what this kid can do.  I hit the
> throttle and go just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road
> I'm on, which commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with
> precious little room to pass them.   I lose this little white mouse a
> bit longer this time but, sure enough it started catching up to me.
> Well screw it.  I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
> death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner.  Done. I
> pull over at the next turnout.  Get thee gone, vile rodent!  Enough! 
> You win!
> Sent using Hushmail
> -------------- next part --------------
>  Roaring through the SoCal mountains is one of my favorite things to do
>  in my Pantera.
> 
> 
> 
>  In ten years of ripping up the pavement on these roads I never had
>  someone sneak up and start tailing me.  Never even once.
> 
> 
> 
>  Until last month.
> 
> 
> 
>  I'm doing a casual, yet brisk pace going up the mountain and this tiny
>  little car with tiny little "HotWheels" tires comically sticking out of
>  it's wells starts catching up to me.
> 
>  I step down a bit harder and I lose this little squeaker.  C ya.  For a
>  few seconds, that is--  then it comes right back up on me.
> 
> 
> 
>  What the hell?  I step back down and keep 'er there for a bit.  Same
>  thing again.  I lose sight of it for a bit and then there it is again,
>  right back on my butt.
> 
> 
> 
>  Well then, let's see what this kid can do.  I hit the throttle and go
>  just about as fast as it's safe to go, given the road I'm on, which
>  commonly has nuts on bicycles going up and down with precious little
>  room to pass them.
> 
> 
> 
>  I lose this little white mouse a bit longer this time but, sure enough
>  it started catching up to me.
> 
> 
> 
>  Well screw it.  I can't go any faster than this or I'm gonna deal a
>  death blow to some bicyclist huffing 'round a blind corner.  Done.
> 
> 
> 
>  I pull over at the next turnout.  Get thee gone, vile rodent!  Enough!
>   You win!
> 
>  Sent using Hushmail
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> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:37:28 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Michael Cox'" <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
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> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian, British . . .
> "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
> "pressed steel chassis", huh?
> 
> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
> 
> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
> 
> 
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
> 
> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-pantera-value
> 
>   --michael cox
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 20:52:31 -0500
> From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'Michael Cox'
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
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> Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor , poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the way, ?full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring it.
> 
> 
> 
> CheersBill MooreCalgary?
> -------- Original message --------From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> Date: 2016-12-22  8:37 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value 
> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian, British . . .
> "after three years, they gave up"? hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
> "pressed steel chassis", huh?
> 
> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
> 
> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
> 
> 
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
> 
> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-pantera-value
> 
> ?? --michael cox
> 
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>   Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>   poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>   way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>   it.
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   Bill Moore
> 
>   Calgary
> 
>   -------- Original message --------
>   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>   Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>   To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
>   "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>   British . . .
>   "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>   1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>   "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>   The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>   details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>   been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>   They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>   raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>   Mike Thomas
>   Pres., Panteras Northwest
>   Yellow '74 #6328
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf Of Michael Cox
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>   I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>   https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>   antera-value
>      --michael cox
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 01:56:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>,  'Michael Cox'
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,  "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
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> 
> Prices he mentioned are low compared to Hagerty recent statements as to Pantera prices....? 
> ?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
> 
>      From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian, British . . .
> "after three years, they gave up"? hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
> "pressed steel chassis", huh?
> 
> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
> 
> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
> 
> 
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
> 
> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-pantera-value
> 
> ? --michael cox
> 
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>   Prices he mentioned are low compared to Hagerty recent statements as to
>   Pantera prices....
> 
>   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
>   ! )
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>   To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>;
>   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>   "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>   British . . .
>   "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>   1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>   "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>   The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>   details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>   been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>   They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>   raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>   Mike Thomas
>   Pres., Panteras Northwest
>   Yellow a74 #6328
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf Of Michael Cox
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>   To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>   I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>   [3]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomas
>   o-pantera-value
>     --michael cox
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:36:31 -0800
> From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> To: "DeTomaso List" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Longchamp diagram
> Message-ID: <A9F12F0C7DF44D35BCA25C4D03E455CD at BOSS3A>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a Longchamp electrical diagram?
> 
> 
> 
> A car has suffered an engine fire, and a diagram would help.
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
> 
> http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>   Does anyone have a Longchamp electrical diagram?
> 
> 
>   A car has suffered an engine fire, and a diagram would help.
> 
> 
>   Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   The De Tomaso Registry Guy
> 
>   [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:37:27 -0800
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Michael Cox
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <8B7E04DD-1541-42E3-877B-2E52030689F6 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the cost of Hagerty.
> 
> 
>    Jackie Trowell ? Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
> jtrowell at heacockclassic.com ? x427
> 
> Heacock Classic
> Office: 800-678-5173 ? Fax: 863-686-1426
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>  poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>  way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>  it.
>> 
>>  Cheers
>> 
>>  Bill Moore
>> 
>>  Calgary
>> 
>>  -------- Original message --------
>>  From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>  Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>  To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>>  "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>  British . . .
>>  "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>  1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>  "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>  The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>  details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>  been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>  They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>  raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>  Mike Thomas
>>  Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>  Yellow '74 #6328
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>  Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>  I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>>  https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>>  antera-value
>>     --michael cox
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> -------------- next part --------------
>   My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>   Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>   cost of Hagerty.
> 
>   [1][HC_Badge_CCI_PMS1805-172x102mail.png] Jackie Trowell  o Licensed
>   Insurance Sales Advisor
>   [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>   Heacock Classic
>   Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
> 
>   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>   On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>   <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>     poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>     way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>     it.
>     Cheers
>     Bill Moore
>     Calgary
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>     Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>     To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>     [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>     "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>     British . . .
>     "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>     1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>     "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>     The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>     details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>     been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>     They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>     raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>     Mike Thomas
>     Pres., Panteras Northwest
>     Yellow '74 #6328
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>   On
>     Behalf Of Michael Cox
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>     To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>     I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>   today:
>     [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>   maso-p
>     antera-value
>        --michael cox
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>   1. http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%20signature
>   2. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>   3. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>   4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>   5. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>   6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>   9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  10. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>  11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>  13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:43:01 +0900
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Michael Cox
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <8F023C3F-23A0-40B7-B286-41243557DD8A at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Ed,
> 
> AGREED value. Not stated value. Stated value is bad. You are good!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:37, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>  Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>>  cost of Hagerty.
>> 
>>  [1][HC_Badge_CCI_PMS1805-172x102mail.png] Jackie Trowell  o Licensed
>>  Insurance Sales Advisor
>>  [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>  Heacock Classic
>>  Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>  On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>  <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>    poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>    way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>    it.
>>    Cheers
>>    Bill Moore
>>    Calgary
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>    Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>    To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>    [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>    British . . .
>>    "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>    1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>    "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>    The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>    details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>    been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>    They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>    raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>    Mike Thomas
>>    Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>    Yellow '74 #6328
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>  On
>>    Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>    Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>    To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>  today:
>>    [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>  maso-p
>>    antera-value
>>       --michael cox
>>    _______________________________________________
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>>  1. http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%20signature
>>  2. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>>  3. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  5. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>  6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>  7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>  9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>> 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:52:13 -0800
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Michael Cox
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <B400A0E1-5D78-484D-830F-E34C9CCCBC58 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Yes that's what I meant they just insured it for what I said it was worth and they agreed. :-) Merry Christmas 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 19:43, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed,
>> 
>> AGREED value. Not stated value. Stated value is bad. You are good!
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:37, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>> Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>>> cost of Hagerty.
>>> 
>>> [1][HC_Badge_CCI_PMS1805-172x102mail.png] Jackie Trowell  o Licensed
>>> Insurance Sales Advisor
>>> [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>> Heacock Classic
>>> Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>> <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>>   poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>>   way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>>   it.
>>>   Cheers
>>>   Bill Moore
>>>   Calgary
>>>   -------- Original message --------
>>>   From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>>   Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>   To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>>   [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>>   "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>>   British . . .
>>>   "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>>   1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>>   "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>>   The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>>   details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>>   been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>>   They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>>   raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>>   Mike Thomas
>>>   Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>>   Yellow '74 #6328
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>> On
>>>   Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>>   To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>>   I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>> today:
>>>   [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>> maso-p
>>>   antera-value
>>>      --michael cox
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:21:22 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Ed Mendez'" <edducati at mac.com>,    <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, 'Michael Cox'
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <029401d25d30$383dbff0$a8b93fd0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I?ve been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half of Hagerty?s rates.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ed Mendez [mailto:edducati at mac.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
> To: bill at incendium.com
> Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> 
> 
> My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the cost of Hagerty.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%20signature> 
> 
> Jackie Trowell ? Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
> jtrowell at heacockclassic.com <mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com>  ? x427
> 
> Heacock Classic
> Office: 800-678-5173 ? Fax: 863-686-1426
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
> 
> On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "bill at incendium.com <mailto:bill at incendium.com> " <bill at incendium.com <mailto:bill at incendium.com> > wrote:
> 
>  Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>  poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>  way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>  it.
> 
>  Cheers
> 
>  Bill Moore
> 
>  Calgary
> 
>  -------- Original message --------
>  From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> >
>  Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>  To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com <mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com> >,
>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
>  "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>  British . . .
>  "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>  1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>  "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>  The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>  details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>  been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>  They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>  raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>  Mike Thomas
>  Pres., Panteras Northwest
>  Yellow '74 #6328
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>  Behalf Of Michael Cox
>  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>  I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>  https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>  antera-value
>     --michael cox
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>   I've been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half of
>   Hagerty's rates.
> 
> 
>   From: Ed Mendez [mailto:edducati at mac.com]
>   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>   To: bill at incendium.com
>   Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox
>   <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> 
>   My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>   Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>   cost of Hagerty.
> 
> 
>   [1]Image removed by sender.
> 
>   Jackie Trowell  o Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
>   [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>   Heacock Classic
>   Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
> 
> 
>   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>   On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>   <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>     poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>     way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>     it.
>     Cheers
>     Bill Moore
>     Calgary
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>     Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>     To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>     [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>     "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>     British . . .
>     "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>     1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>     "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>     The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>     details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>     been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>     They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>     raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>     Mike Thomas
>     Pres., Panteras Northwest
>     Yellow '74 #6328
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>   On
>     Behalf Of Michael Cox
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>     To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>     I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>   today:
>     [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>   maso-p
>     antera-value
>        --michael cox
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>   3. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>   4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>   5. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>   6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>   9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  10. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 10:41:26 -0500
> From: David <skinnerdskinner at yahoo.com>
> To: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Michael Cox
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <02E88E64-EC72-4B75-87DA-E82BCB229778 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> I was going to use Haggerty to insure my car. I think I'll go with a company that knows it better. 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:52 PM, "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>  poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>  way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>  it.
>> 
>>  Cheers
>> 
>>  Bill Moore
>> 
>>  Calgary
>> 
>>  -------- Original message --------
>>  From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>  Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>  To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>>  "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>  British . . .
>>  "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>  1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>  "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>  The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>  details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>  been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>  They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>  raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>  Mike Thomas
>>  Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>  Yellow '74 #6328
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>  Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>  I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>>  https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>>  antera-value
>>     --michael cox
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:56:44 -0800
> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Ed Mendez'"
>    <edducati at mac.com>, <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, 'Michael Cox'
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <D4828408.18507E%larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="ISO-8859-1"
> 
> I just have to speak out here. Y?all can bash Haggerty all you want.
> Anyone that knows me knows that I have the worst luck with Insurance
> Companies and there is only ONE that I can say anything nice about. I have
> been with Haggerty for 30+ years. I have had several claims with them that
> they have paid even though it was employees driving my Pantera?s without
> permission when I was traveling, and soccer moms backing into my car while
> driving through parking lots. They have questioned, but they have never
> denied paying a claim. I work with them in supplying parts to fix your
> Pantera?s too. They have never questioned an Invoice to a Customer or Body
> shop that I have delt with. There is a large list of ?reputable? Insurance
> Companies (including State Farm, Hartford, Zurich, and JC Taylor) that I
> have fought through the claims process and Federal Court for years to pay
> their stupid claims, but NOT HAGGERTY. Wait till you have a problem, then
> tell me who actually stands behind their policies. Haggerty has for me.
> Larry Stock
> 
> On 12/23/16, 7:21 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>>  I've been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half of
>>  Hagerty's rates.
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Ed Mendez [mailto:edducati at mac.com]
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>>  To: bill at incendium.com
>>  Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox
>>  <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> 
>>  My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>  Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>>  cost of Hagerty.
>> 
>> 
>>  [1]Image removed by sender.
>> 
>>  Jackie Trowell  o Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
>>  [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>  Heacock Classic
>>  Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>  On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>  <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>    poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>    way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>    it.
>>    Cheers
>>    Bill Moore
>>    Calgary
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>    Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>    To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>    [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>    British . . .
>>    "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>    1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>    "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>    The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>    details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>    been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>    They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>    raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>    Mike Thomas
>>    Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>    Yellow '74 #6328
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>  On
>>    Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>    Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>    To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>  today:
>>    [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>  maso-p
>>    antera-value
>>       --michael cox
>>    _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> ampaign=email%20signature
>>  2. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>>  3. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  5. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>  6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>  7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>  9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10. 
>> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>> 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:01:07 +0000
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>, Mike Thomas
>    <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>,
>    "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, 'Michael Cox'
>    <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
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> My experience, too.  I had two claims, one which was downright bizzare, and Hagerty paid both immediately with no hassles whatsoever.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> 
> 
> 
> From: Larry Stock<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:56 AM
> To: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Ed Mendez'<mailto:edducati at mac.com>; bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; 'Michael Cox'<mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> 
> 
> I just have to speak out here. Y?all can bash Haggerty all you want.
> Anyone that knows me knows that I have the worst luck with Insurance
> Companies and there is only ONE that I can say anything nice about. I have
> been with Haggerty for 30+ years. I have had several claims with them that
> they have paid even though it was employees driving my Pantera?s without
> permission when I was traveling, and soccer moms backing into my car while
> driving through parking lots. They have questioned, but they have never
> denied paying a claim. I work with them in supplying parts to fix your
> Pantera?s too. They have never questioned an Invoice to a Customer or Body
> shop that I have delt with. There is a large list of ?reputable? Insurance
> Companies (including State Farm, Hartford, Zurich, and JC Taylor) that I
> have fought through the claims process and Federal Court for years to pay
> their stupid claims, but NOT HAGGERTY. Wait till you have a problem, then
> tell me who actually stands behind their policies. Haggerty has for me.
> Larry Stock
> 
> On 12/23/16, 7:21 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>>  I've been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half of
>>  Hagerty's rates.
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Ed Mendez [mailto:edducati at mac.com]
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>>  To: bill at incendium.com
>>  Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox
>>  <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> 
>>  My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>  Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3 the
>>  cost of Hagerty.
>> 
>> 
>>  [1]Image removed by sender.
>> 
>>  Jackie Trowell  o Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
>>  [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>  Heacock Classic
>>  Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>  On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>  <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>>    poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>>    way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>>    it.
>>    Cheers
>>    Bill Moore
>>    Calgary
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>    Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>    To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>    [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>    British . . .
>>    "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>>    1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>    "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>    The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>>    details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>>    been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>    They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>    raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>    Mike Thomas
>>    Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>    Yellow '74 #6328
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>  On
>>    Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>    Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>    To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>  today:
>>    [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>  maso-p
>>    antera-value
>>       --michael cox
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>>  1.
>> http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> ampaign=email%20signature
>>  2. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>>  3. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  5. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>  6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>  7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>  9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10.
>> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>> 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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>   My experience, too.  I had two claims, one which was downright bizzare,
>   and Hagerty paid both immediately with no hassles whatsoever.
> 
> 
>   Chris
> 
> 
>   Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> 
> 
>   From: [1]Larry Stock
>   Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:56 AM
>   To: [2]Mike Thomas; [3]'Ed Mendez'; [4]bill at incendium.com
>   Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [6]'Michael Cox'
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> 
>   I just have to speak out here. Y^1all can bash Haggerty all you want.
>   Anyone that knows me knows that I have the worst luck with Insurance
>   Companies and there is only ONE that I can say anything nice about. I
>   have
>   been with Haggerty for 30+ years. I have had several claims with them
>   that
>   they have paid even though it was employees driving my Pantera^1s
>   without
>   permission when I was traveling, and soccer moms backing into my car
>   while
>   driving through parking lots. They have questioned, but they have never
>   denied paying a claim. I work with them in supplying parts to fix your
>   Pantera^1s too. They have never questioned an Invoice to a Customer or
>   Body
>   shop that I have delt with. There is a large list of ^3reputable^2
>   Insurance
>   Companies (including State Farm, Hartford, Zurich, and JC Taylor) that
>   I
>   have fought through the claims process and Federal Court for years to
>   pay
>   their stupid claims, but NOT HAGGERTY. Wait till you have a problem,
>   then
>   tell me who actually stands behind their policies. Haggerty has for me.
>   Larry Stock
>   On 12/23/16, 7:21 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
>   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>   mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>  I've been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half
>   of
>>  Hagerty's rates.
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Ed Mendez [[7]mailto:edducati at mac.com]
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>>  To: bill at incendium.com
>>  Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox
>>  <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> 
>>  My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>  Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3
>   the
>>  cost of Hagerty.
>> 
>> 
>>  [1]Image removed by sender.
>> 
>>  Jackie Trowell  o Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
>>  [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>  Heacock Classic
>>  Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>  On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>  <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor,
>   poor ,
>>    poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by
>   the
>>    way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on,
>   bring
>>    it.
>>    Cheers
>>    Bill Moore
>>    Calgary
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>    Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>    To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>    [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>    British . . .
>>    "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972,
>   1973,
>>    1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>    "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>    The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of
>   the
>>    details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones
>   we've
>>    been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>    They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy
>   to
>>    raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>    Mike Thomas
>>    Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>    Yellow '74 #6328
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: DeTomaso
>   [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>  On
>>    Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>    Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>    To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>    I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>  today:
>> 
>   [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>  maso-p
>>    antera-value
>>       --michael cox
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>>  1.
>> [8]http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=emai
>   l&utm_c
>> ampaign=email%20signature
>>  2. [9]mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>>  3. [10]mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  4. [11]mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  5. [12]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>  6. [13]mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>  7. [14]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  8. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>  9. [16]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10.
>> [17]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tom
>   aso-p
>> 11. [18]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 12. [19]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> 13. [20]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 14. [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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>   1. mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
>   2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>   3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>   4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>   5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>   7. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>   8. http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>   9. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>  10. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>  11. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>  12. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>  13. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>  14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>  16. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  17. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>  18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>  20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>  21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>  22. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>  23. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:11:10 -0800
> From: Effie Richards <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
> To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>,
>    "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
>    Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID: <771A4DF3-6176-4450-9648-AD157428E86D at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thank you, Chris and Larry for sharing your positive experiences with Haggerty.  
> 
> Sent from Effie's iPad
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  My experience, too.  I had two claims, one which was downright bizzare,
>>  and Hagerty paid both immediately with no hassles whatsoever.
>> 
>> 
>>  Chris
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>> 
>> 
>>  From: [1]Larry Stock
>>  Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:56 AM
>>  To: [2]Mike Thomas; [3]'Ed Mendez'; [4]bill at incendium.com
>>  Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [6]'Michael Cox'
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> 
>>  I just have to speak out here. Y^1all can bash Haggerty all you want.
>>  Anyone that knows me knows that I have the worst luck with Insurance
>>  Companies and there is only ONE that I can say anything nice about. I
>>  have
>>  been with Haggerty for 30+ years. I have had several claims with them
>>  that
>>  they have paid even though it was employees driving my Pantera^1s
>>  without
>>  permission when I was traveling, and soccer moms backing into my car
>>  while
>>  driving through parking lots. They have questioned, but they have never
>>  denied paying a claim. I work with them in supplying parts to fix your
>>  Pantera^1s too. They have never questioned an Invoice to a Customer or
>>  Body
>>  shop that I have delt with. There is a large list of ^3reputable^2
>>  Insurance
>>  Companies (including State Farm, Hartford, Zurich, and JC Taylor) that
>>  I
>>  have fought through the claims process and Federal Court for years to
>>  pay
>>  their stupid claims, but NOT HAGGERTY. Wait till you have a problem,
>>  then
>>  tell me who actually stands behind their policies. Haggerty has for me.
>>  Larry Stock
>>  On 12/23/16, 7:21 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
>>  <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>>  mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I've been with Infinity for a couple of years now, less than half
>>  of
>>> Hagerty's rates.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Ed Mendez [[7]mailto:edducati at mac.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:37 PM
>>> To: bill at incendium.com
>>> Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Michael Cox
>>> <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My Panteras and 69 corvette are insured with Heacock Ins. The red
>>> Pantera is insured for $150,000 at $828 per year stated value. 1/3
>>  the
>>> cost of Hagerty.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]Image removed by sender.
>>> 
>>> Jackie Trowell  o Licensed Insurance Sales Advisor
>>> [2]jtrowell at heacockclassic.com  o x427
>>> Heacock Classic
>>> Office: 800-678-5173 o Fax: 863-686-1426
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 17:52, "[3]bill at incendium.com"
>>> <[4]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor,
>>  poor ,
>>>   poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by
>>  the
>>>   way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on,
>>  bring
>>>   it.
>>>   Cheers
>>>   Bill Moore
>>>   Calgary
>>>   -------- Original message --------
>>>   From: Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>>   Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>   To: 'Michael Cox' <[6]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>>   [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>>   "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>>   British . . .
>>>   "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972,
>>  1973,
>>>   1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>>   "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>>   The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of
>>  the
>>>   details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones
>>  we've
>>>   been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>>   They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy
>>  to
>>>   raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>>   Mike Thomas
>>>   Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>>   Yellow '74 #6328
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: DeTomaso
>>  [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>> On
>>>   Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>>   To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>>   I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>>> today:
>>> 
>>  [10]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-to
>>> maso-p
>>>   antera-value
>>>      --michael cox
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>>> References
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>>> 1.
>>> [8]http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=emai
>>  l&utm_c
>>> ampaign=email%20signature
>>> 2. [9]mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>>> 3. [10]mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>> 4. [11]mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>> 5. [12]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>> 6. [13]mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>> 7. [14]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 8. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 9. [16]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 10.
>>> [17]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tom
>>  aso-p
>>> 11. [18]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 12. [19]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>> 13. [20]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 14. [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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>>  1. mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
>>  2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>  3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>>  4. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>>  5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  6. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>>  7. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>>  8. http://www.heacockclassic.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>>  9. mailto:jtrowell at heacockclassic.com
>> 10. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>> 11. mailto:bill at incendium.com
>> 12. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
>> 13. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
>> 14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 16. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 17. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>> 18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> 22. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> 23. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:34:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> Message-ID:
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> 
> I'm with Haggerty and found them to be great to work with, had a claim and they paid it promptly. 
> 
> Steve 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "David via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
> To: bill at incendium.com 
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Michael Cox" <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net> 
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:41:26 AM 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value 
> 
> I was going to use Haggerty to insure my car. I think I'll go with a company that knows it better. 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:52 PM, "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor , 
>> poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the 
>> way, full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Cheers 
>> 
>> Bill Moore 
>> 
>> Calgary 
>> 
>> -------- Original message -------- 
>> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> 
>> Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, 
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value 
>> 
>> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian, 
>> British . . . 
>> "after three years, they gave up" hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973, 
>> 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . . 
>> "pressed steel chassis", huh? 
>> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the 
>> details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've 
>> been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year. 
>> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to 
>> raise your rates to do themselves a favor. 
>> Mike Thomas 
>> Pres., Panteras Northwest 
>> Yellow '74 #6328 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Cox 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM 
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value 
>> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today: 
>> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p 
>> antera-value 
>> --michael cox 
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>   I'm with Haggerty and found them to be great to work with, had a claim
>   and they paid it promptly.
>   Steve
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: "David via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   To: bill at incendium.com
>   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Michael Cox"
>   <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>   Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:41:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>   I was going to use Haggerty to insure my car. I think I'll go with a
>   company that knows it better.
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:52 PM, "bill at incendium.com"
>   <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor
>   ,
>>  poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by
>   the
>>  way,  full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on,
>   bring
>>  it.
>> 
>>  Cheers
>> 
>>  Bill Moore
>> 
>>  Calgary
>> 
>>  -------- Original message --------
>>  From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>  Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>  To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>>  "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>>  British . . .
>>  "after three years, they gave up"  hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972,
>   1973,
>>  1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>>  "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>>  The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of
>   the
>>  details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones
>   we've
>>  been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>>  They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>>  raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>>  Mike Thomas
>>  Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>  Yellow '74 #6328
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>  Behalf Of Michael Cox
>>  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>>  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>>  I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>   today:
>> 
>   https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>>  antera-value
>>     --michael cox
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:50:57 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
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> 
> I wish all you folks that are so enamored with Hagerty would learn to spell their name!
> 
> 
> I'm with the Barrett Jackson endorsed insurance underwritten by TDC Risk Management, now part of AIG. Fortunately I have not had to claim, but my insurance premiums halved and agreed values increased significantly.
> 
> 
> Julian
> 
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of shawkins777 at comcast.net <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:34:42 AM
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> I'm with Haggerty and found them to be great to work with, had a claim and they paid it promptly.
> 
> Steve
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "David via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: bill at incendium.com
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Michael Cox" <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:41:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
> I was going to use Haggerty to insure my car. I think I'll go with a company that knows it better.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:52 PM, "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>> poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>> way, full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>> it.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Bill Moore
>> 
>> Calgary
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>> British . . .
>> "after three years, they gave up" hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>> 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>> "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>> details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>> been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>> raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>> Mike Thomas
>> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>> Yellow '74 #6328
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Cox
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier today:
>> https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomaso-p
>> antera-value
>> --michael cox
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>   I wish all you folks that are so enamored with Hagerty would learn to
>   spell their name!
> 
>   I'm with the Barrett Jackson endorsed insurance underwritten by TDC
>   Risk Management, now part of AIG. Fortunately I have not had to claim,
>   but my insurance premiums halved and agreed values increased
>   significantly.
> 
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>   shawkins777 at comcast.net <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>   Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:34:42 AM
>   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
> 
>   I'm with Haggerty and found them to be great to work with, had a claim
>   and they paid it promptly.
>   Steve
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "David via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   To: bill at incendium.com
>   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Michael Cox"
>   <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>   Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:41:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>   I was going to use Haggerty to insure my car. I think I'll go with a
>   company that knows it better.
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:52 PM, "bill at incendium.com"
>   <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hag-ar-tee is over rated and their writers abilities are poor, poor ,
>> poor . The writer is here by invited to drive my car #6480. Oh by the
>> way, full disclosure, I switched to Intact Insurance. Game on, bring
>> it.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Bill Moore
>> 
>> Calgary
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2016-12-22 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'Michael Cox' <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>,
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> 
>> "built on a budget from available Ford parts" + German, Italian,
>> British . . .
>> "after three years, they gave up" hmm, lemmie see, 1971, 1972, 1973,
>> 1974, yeah, that's 3 years . . .
>> "pressed steel chassis", huh?
>> The rest of the story seemed pretty close as far as I am aware of the
>> details, but the price average he mentioned is low for the ones we've
>> been seeing go at auction and other sales for the past year.
>> They didn't do us any favors here, but I'm sure they'll be happy to
>> raise your rates to do themselves a favor.
>> Mike Thomas
>> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>> Yellow '74 #6328
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>   On
>> Behalf Of Michael Cox
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:58 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Haggerty - Pantera value
>> I saw this article in an email from Haggerty I received earlier
>   today:
>> 
>   [2]https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2016/12/16/de-tomas
>   o-p
>> antera-value
>> --michael cox
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