[DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Richard Greenblum
Richard at richardgreenblum.com
Tue Dec 13 15:45:40 EST 2016
I think most of the Euro GTSs didn¹t have flares.
Richard
Austin, TX
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Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 14:30
To: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Cullen,
As William attested there is likely no real difference in the bodies as
all came from a single production line; that is to say no difference
in an Euro regular car vs. an Euro GTS. A 4653 VIN without bumper holes
would be indicative of an Euro destined car to me. Does it have
evidence of pot rivet holes for the GTS fiberglass fender flares? Do
you have any other telltale parts e.g. mouse hair covered dash, clock
in the dash etc.?
Julian
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From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:23:33 PM
To: Julian Kift
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Hi Julian!
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, by the VIN seems like the obvious choice and not a secret. Its my
car, which is late 72 L, 4653. It was Ted Mitchell's car for many
years, was destined to be a race car but never happened. I would expect
Ted to know, but when he acquired it, more like a parts car, it was in
boxes, and that's how I acquired it.
A USA market "L" car would have a large front bumper, correct? It did
not come with one, and it does not have shock bumper mounting holes and
I see no evidence that they have been filled or that extensive front
end work has been done. The registry also shows 4652 and 4654
being euro GTS cars. Which simply raises the question in my mind. I
know that's not conclusive.
I was just hoping to deduce from characteristics inherent to the
production line, rather than word of mouth. Didn't know if those
characteristics were definitive, but If any body online does have
history on the car, please contact me offline.
thank you!! Cullen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
I assume you have tried researching the VIN in the registry etc.? What
year is the car? Maybe someone on list would recognize the VIN?
For a later VIN car the lack of shock bumper mounting holes could
establish it as a Euro car, but not that it was a GTS. More of the Euro
cars seem to employ the small button side marker, but not exclusively.
Julian
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Subject: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Hi All,
I'm trying to positively identify a bare steel body tub based on its
characteristics. Are there any recognizable differences in the sheet
metal
on the Euro GTS versus a USA market car of the same timeframe? I'm told
the
USA market GTS would have GT in the vin. Do Euro GTS cars have any
GT-specific identifying marks in the steel?
Thank you so much!!
Cullen
Yukon, OK
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3. mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com
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I think most of the Euro GTSs didn't have flares.
Richard
Austin, TX
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of Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Cullen,
As William attested there is likely no real difference in the bodies
as
all came from a single production line; that is to say no difference
in an Euro regular car vs. an Euro GTS. A 4653 VIN without bumper
holes
would be indicative of an Euro destined car to me. Does it have
evidence of pot rivet holes for the GTS fiberglass fender flares? Do
you have any other telltale parts e.g. mouse hair covered dash,
clock
in the dash etc.?
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Cullen McCann <[5]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:23:33 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market
car
Hi Julian!
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, by the VIN seems like the obvious choice and not a secret. Its
my
car, which is late 72 L, 4653. It was Ted Mitchell's car for many
years, was destined to be a race car but never happened. I would
expect
Ted to know, but when he acquired it, more like a parts car, it was
in
boxes, and that's how I acquired it.
A USA market "L" car would have a large front bumper, correct? It
did
not come with one, and it does not have shock bumper mounting holes
and
I see no evidence that they have been filled or that extensive front
end work has been done. The registry also shows 4652 and 4654
being euro GTS cars. Which simply raises the question in my mind. I
know that's not conclusive.
I was just hoping to deduce from characteristics inherent to the
production line, rather than word of mouth. Didn't know if those
characteristics were definitive, but If any body online does have
history on the car, please contact me offline.
thank you!! Cullen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Julian Kift
<[1][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
I assume you have tried researching the VIN in the registry etc.?
What
year is the car? Maybe someone on list would recognize the VIN?
For a later VIN car the lack of shock bumper mounting holes could
establish it as a Euro car, but not that it was a GTS. More of the
Euro
cars seem to employ the small button side marker, but not
exclusively.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[2][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of Cullen McCann <[3][8]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:42:48 AM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] body differences - Euro GTS vs USA market car
Hi All,
I'm trying to positively identify a bare steel body tub based on its
characteristics. Are there any recognizable differences in the
sheet
metal
on the Euro GTS versus a USA market car of the same timeframe? I'm
told
the
USA market GTS would have GT in the vin. Do Euro GTS cars have any
GT-specific identifying marks in the steel?
Thank you so much!!
Cullen
Yukon, OK
References
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3. [11]mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com
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