[DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk
Guido deTomaso
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Thu Aug 25 15:28:59 EDT 2016
I drove around with a modern skinny spare in the rear trunk. That was my genius plan until I realized Ford made some metric 5 lug pattern easily mistaken for 5 on 4.5 . Tough to tell the difference at the junkyard. Weird coincidence the metric Ford is same as Ferrari.
GD
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Only one very small one.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
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Bud,
How many rappers did you get in the front trunk? Also How?
IndyDave :)
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
Marshall,
Does your front trunk hood not have vents? I figured the engine bay tub
would be hotter than front trunk. I just opened some Assured cough
drops that road in my front trunk through 800 miles which included two
open road races, and they weren't stuck to the rappers.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly gets
much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded
in the front.
Marshall
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Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM
Mike,
All good advice
until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution
even keeping a can of fix a flat
in the front trunk unless it is behind
the battery or against the
bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can
explode in the front trunk of my
car, fortunately no damage, but the
sticky mess made the trunk
unusable for the rest of the trip and took
a good weekend too clean out.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im
looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera
or ideal what will fit in
trunk
Jack (I assume
that's your name?)
Your
e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty
well lays out your
question.
Before getting down
to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you
hadn't considered.
Let's say you're driving
down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire.
You
pull over, pull out your jack and
your spare, install the spare,
inflate
it, lower the car back onto the
road....
...and then
what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and
flat
tire (or equally expensive and
rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire)
are
sitting there on the shoulder of
the road. What do you plan to do
with them?
It's much too big to fit into the car!
You're not going to abandon
them, so no matter what, you're going to
need
to call a tow
truck. So given that's the case, why even bother
carrying a
spare?
Having said that, if you are
really wanting a spare (perhaps for
concours),
they are rare and expensive,
coveted by the Mustang restoration guys.
The
spare used in the Pantera was the
same one used on late 1960s and early
1970s performance Mustangs,
including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302,
Boss
429, 428 CJ cars with fold down
rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries.
There is one available for sale
on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85
shipping (buy it now price), and
another one in much better shape
available for
auction with a starting price of
$395 (but the reserve is likely much
higher).
Personally I would never trust a
40-year-old collapsible spare tire in
any
circumstances, so I would view
that as a display item only.
Others have found that
lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model
Fords
(Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and
they can be had from junkyards for a
fraction of the cost.
But personally, I wouldn't
bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat
(note that some of those use
PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly
explosive;
more than one Pantera has
suffered extensive damage from an explosion,
so
read the label carefully, and
keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA
card....
Mike
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I drove around with a modern skinny spare in the rear trunk. That was
my genius plan until I realized Ford made some metric 5 lug pattern
easily mistaken for 5 on 4.5 . Tough to tell the difference at the
junkyard. Weird coincidence the metric Ford is same as Ferrari.
GD
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
Only one very small one.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be
! )
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pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
Bud,
How many rappers did you get in the front trunk? Also How?
IndyDave :)
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972
pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
Marshall,
Does your front trunk hood not have vents? I figured the engine bay
tub
would be hotter than front trunk. I just opened some Assured cough
drops that road in my front trunk through 800 miles which included
two
open road races, and they weren't stuck to the rappers.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be
! )
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To: "[6][16]falconjackpam at sbcglobal.net"
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972
pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly
gets
much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded
in the front.
Marshall
--------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972
pantera
or ideal what will fit in trunk
To: "[14][24]falconjackpam at sbcglobal.net"
<[15][25]falconjackpam at sbcglobal.net>, "[16][26]MikeLDrew at aol.com"
<[17][27]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
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Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM
Mike,
All good advice
until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution
even keeping a can of fix a flat
in the front trunk unless it is behind
the battery or against the
bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can
explode in the front trunk of my
car, fortunately no damage, but the
sticky mess made the trunk
unusable for the rest of the trip and took
a good weekend too clean out.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im
looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera
or ideal what will fit in
trunk
Jack (I assume
that's your name?)
Your
e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty
well lays out your
question.
Before getting down
to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you
hadn't considered.
Let's say you're driving
down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire.
You
pull over, pull out your jack and
your spare, install the spare,
inflate
it, lower the car back onto the
road....
...and then
what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and
flat
tire (or equally expensive and
rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire)
are
sitting there on the shoulder of
the road. What do you plan to do
with them?
It's much too big to fit into the car!
You're not going to abandon
them, so no matter what, you're going to
need
to call a tow
truck. So given that's the case, why even bother
carrying a
spare?
Having said that, if you are
really wanting a spare (perhaps for
concours),
they are rare and expensive,
coveted by the Mustang restoration guys.
The
spare used in the Pantera was the
same one used on late 1960s and early
1970s performance Mustangs,
including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302,
Boss
429, 428 CJ cars with fold down
rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries.
There is one available for sale
on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85
shipping (buy it now price), and
another one in much better shape
available for
auction with a starting price of
$395 (but the reserve is likely much
higher).
Personally I would never trust a
40-year-old collapsible spare tire in
any
circumstances, so I would view
that as a display item only.
Others have found that
lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model
Fords
(Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and
they can be had from junkyards for a
fraction of the cost.
But personally, I wouldn't
bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat
(note that some of those use
PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly
explosive;
more than one Pantera has
suffered extensive damage from an explosion,
so
read the label carefully, and
keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA
card....
Mike
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