[DeTomaso] radiator place says they can't make or get a new core for stock radiator

Wed Aug 24 18:54:31 EDT 2016

Jack,

I am confused as to whether you are taking about radiator shrouds or fan shrouds which are different things. 
Mt he Flex-A-Lite 410 is a shrouded fan setup that fits stock sized radiators perfectly...

Mike

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On Aug 24, 2016, at 14:57, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> Jack,
> 
> Uh...that's confusing. 
> 
> Mariah fans are long, pusher fans only. If you have suckers they are something else. 
> 
> You should have an abbreviated top shroud but the stock side shrouds won't fit with a lay down configuration. 
> 
> Some sucker fan setups mount the fans in a shroud that covers the whole back side of the radiator, others don't. The former is perhaps more effective at very low speeds and less effective at high speeds, eventually becoming detrimental at extremely high speeds. 
> 
> Is your car currently 'broken'?  If not, don't fix it!!!!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:47, Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> No Mike. I currently have a Fluidyne, tilted forward, front A/C condenser and twin Mariah sucker fans. 
>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jack,
>>> 
>>> The stock radiator is shrouded on the sides and top by external pieces that your car should have. 
>>> 
>>> The Hall radiator is a drop-in replacement for the stock radiator. 
>>> 
>>> So if you don't have the side and top pieces, the problem is with your car, not your radiator. Do you have them now?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:53, Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have been “radiator shopping” and have had a lot of good tips from The List. I am grateful for that and am leaning to the copper/brass units for repairability and longevity. Aside from the extra weight, of which I don’t care too much about, It seems the aluminum radiators get cracks at the welds and leak - not all, since I currently have one w/o leaks. The Hall Radiator seems very popular but I wanted a shroud to “focus” the air. So here is where I need more info: feelings about shrouds. A good friend that does a lot of off-road racing absolutely swears by shrouds and I don’t think the Hall unit is shrouded. If people agree about the importance of a shroud, and Hall radiators don’t come with them, I guess I need to find someone that can build a shroud for it and incorporate the fans. I THINK - open ears here. I have also contacted The Brassworks as per another List email. They told me they built one for a Pantera owner and gave me his name, and I posted it here on The List, but no response so far. 
>>>> Always interested - 
>>>> jack
>>>> #4348
>>>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4 months ago I brought my radiator to a local shop. They kept the two
>>>>> tanks on both ends and installed a brand new core. It wasn't cheap -
>>>>> not all that less than a new radiator - but it was local, no shipping
>>>>> fees, etc.A
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
>>>>> <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A  A I know brass and copper radiators are going the way of the dodo
>>>>> bird,
>>>>> A  A but I thought a radiator core could be made any shape or size
>>>>> that was
>>>>> A  A needed.
>>>>> A  A My radiator was recored in the early 1980's and did fine re
>>>>> cooling,
>>>>> A  A but finally developed a leak in the core.A  I took it to what
>>>>> used to be
>>>>> A  A a great radiator shop that has since become mainly a general
>>>>> car repair
>>>>> A  A place and they said they can't fix it.
>>>>> A  A Anyone have their stock radiator recored lately?
>>>>> A  A I know a lot of people go with aluminum rads, but I'd rather
>>>>> keep the
>>>>> A  A stock "frame" for appearances sake
>>>>> A  A Jim Oddie (was bumped from the list recently because of too
>>>>> many
>>>>> A  A bounces, so I hope this goes thru)
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