[DeTomaso] Color Print and/or Digital
Bill Lewis
lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 13 22:11:16 EDT 2016
What are your thoughts on this: someone mentioned keeping the Profiles in color paper, and doing the Newsletter online and let whomever print out whichever article they wanted to keep. --BILL L
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:10 AM
To: Jeff Detrich; Stephen
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari at aol.com; Forest Goodhart
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
I doubt that it is linear, though. If it costs $24,000 to mail to
everyone, it might be $20,000 to mail to 1/2, not $12,000.
I¹m not debating numbers. I¹m only saying that the cost benefit analysis
needs to be done.
Personally, I want paper. I look at a computer terminal all day. I don¹t
want to do it again in the evening to read Pantera news. Besides, it
helps improve my evening when I get home to a car magazine in the mail.
On 8/13/16, 6:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be
> available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the
> newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000.
> Just my 2cents as JDR says.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <[1]steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
>
> I agree wholeheartedly!A But, if those of us who want the paper
> lose it, well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with
> the shortt gone.
> No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away!
> Stephen Nelson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
> To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>; Jeff Detrich
> <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>; [5]laurieferrari at aol.com
> Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> BUTa|.
> Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still
> want paper!!A A I would say they are in the minority.
> Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect
> whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
> Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day
> after they arrive.
> Same Same for the newsletter.A Let the members who want paper get
> them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will
> collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
> IMHO.A A Feel free to flame me.A A ;-)
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,A
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
> Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
> [7]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[8]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> d--od-,
> From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com<mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart
> <[11]forestg at att.net<mailto:[12]forestg at att.net>>
> Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[13]forestg at att.net<mailto:[14]forest
> g at att.net>>
> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: Jeff Detrich <[15]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[16]jj
> detrich at gmail.com>>, "[17]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[18]
> laurieferrari at aol.com>" <[19]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[20]
> laurieferrari at aol.com>>
> Cc: "[21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
> com<mailto:[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> <[23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[24]detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is
> incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles.
> With a true comparison the difference is pennies.
> A A A From: Jeff Detrich <[25]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[26]jj
> detrich at gmail.com>>
> To: [27]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[28]laurieferrari at aol.com>
> Cc: [29]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[30]detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> A On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
> A <[1][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[32]detoma
> so at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
> A A save $8,000
> A Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out
> about
> A $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big
> deal to
> A keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
> A Jeff
> A 6559
> References
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What are your thoughts on this: someone mentioned keeping the Profiles
in color paper, and doing the Newsletter online and let whomever print
out whichever article they wanted to keep. --BILL L
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:10 AM
To: Jeff Detrich; Stephen
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari at aol.com; Forest
Goodhart
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
I doubt that it is linear, though. If it costs $24,000 to mail to
everyone, it might be $20,000 to mail to 1/2, not $12,000.
I^1m not debating numbers. I^1m only saying that the cost benefit
analysis
needs to be done.
Personally, I want paper. I look at a computer terminal all day. I
don^1t
want to do it again in the evening to read Pantera news. Besides, it
helps improve my evening when I get home to a car magazine in the mail.
On 8/13/16, 6:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will
not be
> available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the
> newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000.
> Just my 2cents as JDR says.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <[1]steve at snclocks.com>
wrote:
>
> I agree wholeheartedly!A But, if those of us who want the paper
> lose it, well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped
with
> the shortt gone.
> No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away!
> Stephen Nelson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[1]mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
> To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>; Jeff Detrich
> <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>; [5]laurieferrari at aol.com
> Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> BUTa|.
> Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still
> want paper!!A A I would say they are in the minority.
> Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect
> whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
> Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1
day
> after they arrive.
> Same Same for the newsletter.A Let the members who want paper
get
> them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just
will
> collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
> IMHO.A A Feel free to flame me.A A ;-)
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,A
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
> Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
> [7]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[8]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> d--od-,
> From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com<[2]mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart
> <[11]forestg at att.net<mailto:[12]forestg at att.net>>
> Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[13]forestg at att.net<mailto:[14]forest
> g at att.net>>
> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: Jeff Detrich <[15]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[16]jj
> detrich at gmail.com>>, "[17]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[18]
> laurieferrari at aol.com>" <[19]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[20]
> laurieferrari at aol.com>>
> Cc: "[21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
> com<[3]mailto:[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> <[23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[24]detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is
> incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the
profiles.
> With a true comparison the difference is pennies.
> A A A From: Jeff Detrich
<[25]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[26]jj
> detrich at gmail.com>>
> To: [27]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[28]laurieferrari at aol.com>
> Cc:
[29]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[30]detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
> A On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
> A <[1][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[32]detoma
> so at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
> A A save $8,000
> A Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works
out
> about
> A $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big
> deal to
> A keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
> A Jeff
> A 6559
> References
> A 1. mailto:[33]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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