[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

Sat Aug 13 21:34:47 EDT 2016

I think that there needs to be an online poll about who prefers what (printed/digital/color, etc.),

BUT, the choices need to be realistic and thought out!       Not: Have you stopped beating your wife?   ---BILL Lewis

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:26 PM
To: Stephen
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari at aol.com; Forest Goodhart
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be
available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the
newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000.

Just my 2cents as JDR says.

Jeff
6559

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

> I agree wholeheartedly!  But, if those of us who want the paper lose it,
> well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with the shortt gone.
>
> No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away!
>
> Stephen Nelson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>; Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>;
> laurieferrari at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>
> BUT….
>
> Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want
> paper!!    I would say they are in the minority.
>
> Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a
> member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
> Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after
> they arrive.
>
> Same Same for the newsletter.  Let the members who want paper get them,
> but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect dust
> in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
>
> IMHO.   Feel free to flame me.   ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,  stupid
> enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell:     (818) 653-8213
> Fax:     (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> 🇺🇸
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detoma
> so-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart <
> forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
> Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>, "
> laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>" <
> laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>
> What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is incorrect.
> He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles. With a true
> comparison the difference is pennies.
>
>       From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
> To: laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>
>   On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detoma
> so at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>
>     save $8,000
>
>   Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out about
>   $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big deal to
>   keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
>   Jeff
>   6559
>
> References
>
>   1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>
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   I think that there needs to be an online poll about who prefers what
   (printed/digital/color, etc.),

   BUT, the choices need to be realistic and thought out!       Not: Have
   you stopped beating your wife?   ---BILL Lewis
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:26 PM
   To: Stephen
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari at aol.com; Forest
   Goodhart
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

   I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be
   available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the
   newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000.
   Just my 2cents as JDR says.
   Jeff
   6559
   On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
   > I agree wholeheartedly!  But, if those of us who want the paper lose
   it,
   > well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with the shortt
   gone.
   >
   > No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away!
   >
   > Stephen Nelson
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On
   > Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
   > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
   > To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>; Jeff Detrich
   <jjdetrich at gmail.com>;
   > laurieferrari at aol.com
   > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
   >
   > BUT....
   >
   > Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want
   > paper!!    I would say they are in the minority.
   >
   > Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether
   a
   > member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
   > Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day
   after
   > they arrive.
   >
   > Same Same for the newsletter.  Let the members who want paper get
   them,
   > but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect
   dust
   > in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
   >
   > IMHO.   Feel free to flame me.   ;-)
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,  stupid
   > enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > Dawn Spacecraft Team
   > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > Cell:     (818) 653-8213
   > Fax:     (818) 393-3147
   > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[2]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   >
   >
   > From: DeTomaso
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detoma
   > so-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart <
   > forestg at att.net<[3]mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   > Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>, "
   > laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>" <
   > laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>>
   > Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.
   > detomasolist.com>" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:
   > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
   >
   > What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is
   incorrect.
   > He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles. With a true
   > comparison the difference is pennies.
   >
   >       From: Jeff Detrich
   <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
   > To: laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>
   > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.
   > detomasolist.com>
   > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
   >
   >   On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
   >   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detoma
   > so at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
   >
   >     save $8,000
   >
   >   Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out
   about
   >   $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big deal
   to
   >   keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
   >   Jeff
   >   6559
   >
   > References
   >
   >   1. [4]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >
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