[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

Sat Aug 13 20:31:16 EDT 2016

1) I recommend we ask and wait for the POCA Treasurer to provide the analysis on the printing/mailing cost.
2) Repeated studies have shown digital magazines have been failures because most people prefer printed magazines over on-line editions. I will have to google it again to find the references. I think the last study I saw said 6% prefer to read magazines on-line. ( now that I've said that I hope I can find the reference :-)
3) Without printed content, $75 is way more than any other car club I belong to. Besides POCA, my next most expensive car club is the National Woodie Club and they're $35 ($32 if you join for two years) and I get a full color glossy monthly magazine mailed to me! I need to check and see how many members are in the Woodie Club.
4) My Mustang club prints the monthly newsletter and brings them to the monthly meeting to hand out. They then publish it on-line for those that don't attend the monthly meeting. I understand that doesn't work for everyone, but I for one would be happy to pickup my Profiles and Newsletter each month at our Chapter meeting. Even better if it was in full color. I can tell you I never go on-line to read or print the Mustang Club newsletter. If I don't attend the meeting I don't read that months issue. :-(

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I doubt that it is linear, though.  If it costs $24,000 to mail to
> everyone, it might be $20,000 to mail to 1/2, not $12,000.
> 
> I¹m not debating numbers.  I¹m only saying that the cost benefit analysis
> needs to be done.
> 
> Personally, I want paper.  I look at a computer terminal all day.  I don¹t
> want to do it again in the evening to read Pantera news.  Besides, it
> helps improve my evening when I get home to a car magazine in the mail.
> 
> 
> On 8/13/16, 6:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be
>>  available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the
>>  newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000.
>>  Just my 2cents as JDR says.
>>  Jeff
>>  6559
>> 
>>  On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <[1]steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    I agree wholeheartedly!A  But, if those of us who want the paper
>>    lose it, well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with
>>    the shortt gone.
>>    No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away!
>>    Stephen Nelson
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>    On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
>>    Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
>>    To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>; Jeff Detrich
>>    <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>; [5]laurieferrari at aol.com
>>    Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>>    BUTa|.
>>    Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still
>>    want paper!!A  A  I would say they are in the minority.
>>    Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect
>>    whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
>>    Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day
>>    after they arrive.
>>    Same Same for the newsletter.A  Let the members who want paper get
>>    them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will
>>    collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
>>    IMHO.A  A Feel free to flame me.A  A ;-)
>>    "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,A
>>    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>>    Terry W. Himes
>>    JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>    Dawn Spacecraft Team
>>    Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>>    Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>    Cell:A  A  A (818) 653-8213
>>    Fax:A  A  A (818) 393-3147
>>    [7]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[8]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>    d--od-,
>>    From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.
>>    detomasolist.com<mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at server.
>>    detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart
>>    <[11]forestg at att.net<mailto:[12]forestg at att.net>>
>>    Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[13]forestg at att.net<mailto:[14]forest
>>    g at att.net>>
>>    Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
>>    To: Jeff Detrich <[15]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[16]jj
>>    detrich at gmail.com>>, "[17]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[18]
>>    laurieferrari at aol.com>" <[19]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[20]
>>    laurieferrari at aol.com>>
>>    Cc: "[21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
>>    com<mailto:[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>    <[23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[24]detomaso at server.
>>    detomasolist.com>>
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>>    What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is
>>    incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles.
>>    With a true comparison the difference is pennies.
>>    A  A  A  From: Jeff Detrich <[25]jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:[26]jj
>>    detrich at gmail.com>>
>>    To: [27]laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:[28]laurieferrari at aol.com>
>>    Cc: [29]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[30]detomaso at server.
>>    detomasolist.com>
>>    Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
>>    A  On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
>>    A  <[1][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[32]detoma
>>    so at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>    A  A  save $8,000
>>    A  Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out
>>    about
>>    A  $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big
>>    deal to
>>    A  keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
>>    A  Jeff
>>    A  6559
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