[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

Sat Aug 13 17:34:35 EDT 2016

The fact that the Profiles and Newsletters are now online (and hopefully at some point searchable for content and articles) I think adds a lot to the argument of paper vs. no paper. I must admit I do like the full color Profiles magazine in paper form in hand, the B&W newsletter would be easy to print articles from as required.

As for the trash can all copies of both Profiles and Newsletters are stored on my bookshelf since I joined POCA in 2006.

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
To: Forest Goodhart; Jeff Detrich; laurieferrari at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

BUT....

Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want paper!!    I would say they are in the minority.

Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after they arrive.

Same Same for the newsletter.  Let the members who want paper get them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that
just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out..

IMHO.   Feel free to flame me.   ;-)

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
 stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
????

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>, "laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>" <laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles. With a true comparison the difference is pennies.

      From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
To: laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

  On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
  <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:

    save $8,000

  Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out about
  $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big deal to
  keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
  Jeff
  6559

References

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   The fact that the Profiles and Newsletters are now online (and
   hopefully at some point searchable for content and articles) I think
   adds a lot to the argument of paper vs. no paper. I must admit I do
   like the full color Profiles magazine in paper form in hand, the B&W
   newsletter would be easy to print articles from as required.

   As for the trash can all copies of both Profiles and Newsletters are
   stored on my bookshelf since I joined POCA in 2006.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM
   To: Forest Goodhart; Jeff Detrich; laurieferrari at aol.com
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17

   BUT....
   Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want
   paper!!    I would say they are in the minority.
   Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a
   member wants a paper copy of electronic copies.
   Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day
   after they arrive.
   Same Same for the newsletter.  Let the members who want paper get them,
   but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that
   just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out..
   IMHO.   Feel free to flame me.   ;-)
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
   thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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   From: DeTomaso
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
   r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart
   <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>>
   Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM
   To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>,
   "laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>"
   <laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>>
   Cc:
   "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
   om>"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
   om>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
   What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is
   incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles.
   With a true comparison the difference is pennies.
         From: Jeff Detrich
   <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
   To: laurieferrari at aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari at aol.com>
   Cc:
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
   m>
   Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17
     On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso

   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
   t.com>> wrote:
       save $8,000
     Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out
   about
     $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big deal to
     keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now.
     Jeff
     6559
   References
     1. [2]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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