[DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk
Larry Stock
larrys at panteraparts.com
Tue Aug 9 16:23:32 EDT 2016
I have one in stock, never mounted.
Larry
On 8/9/16, 1:13 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ed Mendez"
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wrote:
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> Ed
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> On Aug 09, 2016, at 08:10 AM, JACKIE RANS <falconjackpam at sbcglobal.net>
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> 1. Re: latest numbers in AC that has been
> retrofitted to 134a?
> (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 2. NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
> Maseratisource (Mike Thomas)
> 3. 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
> and Ford GT (Matt)
> 4. Re: Has anyone researched hood
> vent designs?
> (Dave Londry)
> (Charles Engles)
> 5. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
> up and Ford GT
> (Julian Kift)
> 6. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
> up and Ford GT
> (Dave Londry)
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> up and Ford GT
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> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:07:11 -0700
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] latest numbers in AC that has been
> retrofitted
> to 134a?
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> I've not done A/C since my days in
> Automotive Technology school. But
> as I recall, the "goal" was to have 45F
> degrees at the vents.
> 38F at the vents sounds pretty darn good
> to me. :)
> Can you come and do mine?
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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> On 8/7/2016 3:25 AM, Jeff Cobb wrote:
> Jim,
> How cold do you want to be?
> You are almost as cold as Hillary
> Clinton's soul!
> Remove tools and hang meat.
> Jeff
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Pantdino
> [3]<[1]pantdino at aol.com>
> wrote:
> So at 83F ambient temp and 1500 rpm I see
> 7 psi on low side and 250 on
> high.
> I got one of those vent thermometers and
> it shows 35F at the vent.
> Sounds pretty good to me
> Or should I add a bit more 134?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pantdino [4]<[2]pantdino at aol.com>
> To: jeffcobb1 [5]<[3]jeffcobb1 at me.com>;
> detomaso
> [6]<[4]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 12:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
> AC that has been retrofitted
> to 134a?
> Jeff,
> I hooked up the high pressure side gauge
> and get these numbers:
> before starting car, 100 psi both sides
> after system settles down, at 1500 rpm,
> low side 7 psi, high side 225
> psi. As the car warmed the engine
> speed increased to maybe 1750 rpm
> and the high side was creeping up to
> 240-250 but the low was staying at
> 5-7.
> Ambient temp was 77F, so should be about
> 40-45 low side, 170 high side.
> According to the info sheet, this "Hi side
> too high, low side too low"
> situation would imply "blockage of
> expansion valve or orifice tube."
> Would that be from having the R12 valve in
> a system now using 134?
> I used my laser thermometer on the vents
> and got 20-40F, but I suspect
> that kind of thermometer is not accurate
> for this application because
> on my street car I got like 13F, which I
> think cannot be right.
> Anyway, it seems to me if I add more 134 I
> run the risk of blowing the
> high side hose at 3000 rpm and 85F
> temp. Does that sound right?
> I do have 15 12 oz cans of old school R12
> I bought way back when, so I
> could switch to R12, but I would have to
> take the car to have the 134
> recycled, replace the dryer, put the
> system under vacuum, etc so would
> like not to.
> Thank you,
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JEFFREY COBB [7]<[5]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
> To: Pantdino [8]<[6]pantdino at aol.com>;
> detomaso
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> Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 3:37 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
> AC that has been retrofitted
> to 134a?
> Jim,
> All cars use different pressures and
> for examples this week we did a/c
> work on a 124 Fiat, many
> Benz-Bmws-Toyotas, a 71 e-type, Ford +Chevy
> trucks, a Cobra kit car and a Mangusta.
> But basic pressures at 1,500 rpm with
> cooling fans on and on high, with
> both windows open, rear and front hatch
> closed, high fan and not on
> recirc should be about 35 + - low side and
> 250 + - high. Seems like a
> 7:1 ratio works the best. Converted
> systems do need different numbers
> but never too much of a change. So your
> low range should vary from 20
> to 38 psi and the high 210 to 260 psi as
> long as above written
> parameters are meet. The proper pressures
> will equate to the coolest
> temps. You have to note that and remember
> you are just setting the vent
> output for the coolest temp not some
> pre-considered ideal temp you hope
> for.
> About 30 % of all of our a/c fixes are
> fixing the stuck on heaters. We
> are in hot Louisiana, make sure your
> heater is truly shut off by doing
> a liquid test.
> Do use the correct oil and add 2 oz if you
> are not sure of how much is
> in. You can always expel the working high
> side into a cloth or jug for
> 2 seconds to get an idea if you are oily
> enough. A lot of spit
> indicates fine but dry expelled gas needs
> oil.
> Keep cool,
> Jeff
> Jeff Cobb- I pad
> W-225-343-7525
> C-225-907-4514
> Jeff Cobb Auto Works
> 1316 S. Acadian Thruway
> Baton Rouge, La.
> 70806
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> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Pantdino
> [10]<[9]pantdino at aol.com>
> wrote:
> Hi, Jeff,
> What should the pressures be?
> Thank you,
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Cobb [11]<[10]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
> To: Pantdino [12]<[11]pantdino at aol.com>;
> detomaso
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> Cc: Jeff Cobb [14]<[13]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2016 6:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
> AC that has been retrofitted
> to 134a?
> The sight glass is always used as a
> reference point. You must go by the
> dual gauges.
> Never by the low side only.
> Jeff Cobb
> On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Pantdino via
> DeTomaso
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> wrote:
> > After switching the AC system to
> 134a, do you use the sight glass in
> > the dryer or go by the pressure at
> the low pressure port like with
> > modern cars?
> >
> > Sorry, but I don't recall what I
> learned several years ago when I
> > switched the system over.
> >
> > Jim Oddie
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:06:54 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
> Maseratisource
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> A very original Maserati Khamsin Ebay listing sent out by
> Masertisource.
> Very original, but definitely not flawless. Pretty
> car, except for the
> butt-ugly US bumpers. The front looks like it's
> choking on a hockey puck,
> the back is just a visual mess between the PANTERA tail
> lights, and the
> rubber transom of a bumper. It is the perfect color
> though.
> [24]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maserati-KHAMSIN-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/4011647
> 35310?for
> cerrptr=true&hash=item5d6748134e:g:sxQAAOSwhOdXoe8V&item=401164735310
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
> ------------------------------
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:48:56 -0700
> From: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> To: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
> and Ford GT
> Message-ID:
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> I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
> detailing shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
> they were closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
> Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
> for a look next
> week.
> He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
> all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
> some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
> a bank vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
> filled me in on
> the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
> sell between 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
> to be one of
> the biggest Lambo dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
> heart for Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
> purchasing soon. Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
> right now. Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
> ,who knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
> 2006 Ford GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
> yet so please
> let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
> way to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
> week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [25]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> -------------- next part --------------
> I went to go inspect the car today. It was
> next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
> gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
> Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done
> and I can go back for a look
> next week.
> He also said they have an interested
> buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
> I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
> like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
> we talked and he filled me
> in on the different Lambo models and car
> stuff in general.They sell
> between 15-30 cars a month and cater to
> Lambo buyers primarily. They
> claim to be one of the biggest Lambo
> dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
> place in his heart for
> Panteras though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found
> another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is
> surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like
> the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all
> the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
> tried attaching pics yet so
> please let me know PM if they don't show
> up and I'll find another way
> to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the
> Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1][26]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:36:12 -0500
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'Asa Jay Laughton'" <asajay at asajay.com>,
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood
> vent designs? (Dave
> Londry)
> Message-ID: <002a01d1f0e2$f4e8fd00$debaf700$@net>
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> Dear Asa,
> I do know that
> Larry Stock's high speed aero mods seem to include
> a belly pan when I reviewed the double secret pictures he
> kindly sent me.
> Perhaps Larry might comment.
>
> Warmest
> regards, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Asa Jay Laughton
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:56 PM
> To: [31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent
> designs? (Dave
> Londry)
> Yes, and somebody found it and returned it. If I
> recall correctly, he lost
> his deck lid due to a hinge pin that came out. After
> that, most of us
> drilled our pins for clips or safety wire. Here is an
> example from mine
> when I drilled for cotter pins:
> [32]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gal
> lery&Item
> id=57&g2_itemId=5517
> This should prevent losing the deck lid entirely as long as
> the hinges stay
> intact. However, it might be a good idea, like what
> Dan was eluding to, to
> have some kind of back-up in place like a thick bungee cord
> under the deck
> lid in case it unlatches. Make it short enough that
> the deck-lid doesn't
> come up any more than a few inches.
> Didn't somebody try a belly-pan under the rear of car at one
> time? I
> thought I remember somebody trying that but don't remember
> any conclusions.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &
> Shelley Marie Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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> On 8/6/2016 4:00 PM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote:
> > I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck
> lid. I think Mad
> Dog lost his too.
> >
> >> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney<dan at excaliburre.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> As one who does drive at very high
> speed I can tell you the front hood
> >> does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta,
> which has two custom hood vents
> >> behind the radiator. It has rubber
> straps to keep it from getting too
> >> high, while also letting the air
> escape.
> >> Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of
> upward pressure on the rear deck
> >> lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck
> lids (one in a somewhat famous
> >> incident along the Silver State
> Challenge route).
> >> Weave reinforced the hinge pins and
> louvers are on the drawing board.
> >> Iave also noticed the car settles down
> significantly once the rear
> deck
> >> lid is gone. At first I didnat realize
> why the rear was finally
> >> settling down and holding the ground,
> until the end of the route when
> I
> >> walked around and noticed the deck lid
> was gone.
> >>
> >> Dan
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:46:23 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>,
> Pantera Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
> up and
> Ford GT
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> The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for that price you
> could have your choice of a MK1 replica built to your specs
> and still have change for one of the Lamborghini's!
> That original window sticker is a bit misleading, the MSRP
> for a 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing the
> $184,995 represents the original selling dealer markup. Yes,
> I wish I'd purchased one back then, if I had it would for
> sure have more than 2,900 miles on it though!
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
> and Ford GT
> I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
> detailing shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
> they were closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
> Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
> for a look next
> week.
> He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
> all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
> some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
> a bank vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
> filled me in on
> the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
> sell between 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
> to be one of
> the biggest Lambo dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
> heart for Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
> purchasing soon. Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
> right now. Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
> ,who knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
> 2006 Ford GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
> yet so please
> let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
> way to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
> week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [42]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
> Exotics<[43]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso->
> [44]http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington dealership. We sell
> new and used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> -------------- next part --------------
> The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
> that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
> specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
> That original window sticker is a bit
> misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
> the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
> wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for sure have more
> than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
> Julian
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
> Exotics follow up and Ford GT
> I went to go inspect the car today. It was
> next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
> gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
> Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done
> and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an interested
> buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
> I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
> like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
> we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and car stuff
> in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
> primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
> place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found
> another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is
> surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like
> the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all
> the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
> tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't show up and
> I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the
> Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1][45]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
> Exotics
> [46]http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
> dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> References
> 1. [47]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> 2. [48]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> ------------------------------
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:10 -0700
> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
> To: [49]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
> up and
> Ford GT
> Message-ID: <cb2762bd-b68a-c0a8-e1f2-ceb7db56ded5 at emspace.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252";
> Format="flowed"
> Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
> I thought I had a good tune when I recorded 22mpg - although
> that was at
> 70 - 75 mph.
> dave
> On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> > The Ford GT is a truly great
> car, but for that price you could have
> > your choice of a MK1 replica
> built to your specs and still have change
> > for one of the Lamborghini's!
> >
> > That original window sticker is
> a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> > 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
> i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> > original selling dealer markup.
> Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> > then, if I had it would for
> sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> > though!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> > Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
> 11:48 AM
> > To: Pantera Mail List
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
> L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
> >
> > I went to go inspect the car
> today. It was next door in the detailing
> > shop.
> > The sales guy, John Zuberek,
> could not gain access since they were
> > closed.
> > He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
> Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> > So he is going to email me when
> it's done and I can go back for a look
> > next
> > week.
> > He also said they have an
> interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> > explain the detailing.
> > They must have 20 Lamborghini's
> just that I could see and some other
> > speciality cars too.
> > Millions of dollars worth of
> cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> > vault.
> > I felt a little out of my
> comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> > in on
> > the different Lambo models and
> car stuff in general.They sell between
> > 15-30
> > cars a month and cater to Lambo
> buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> > of
> > the biggest Lambo dealers
> around.
> > He said the owner, Roy Cats,
> has a special place in his heart for
> > Panteras
> > though.
> > He indicated Roy had recently
> found another car he's purchasing soon.
> > Stay
> > tuned.
> > John also said they feel the
> market is surging for Panteras right now.
> > Duh!
> > But in the same breath he added
> "it's like the stock market ,who
> > knows?".
> > They did have a car I would
> take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> > GT
> > in Gulf livery.
> > So I took a few pics for you. I
> haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> > please
> > let me know PM if they don't
> show up and I'll find another way to post.
> > Let you know what I find out
> about the Pantera later this week.
> > Matt
> > 3584
> > [1][50]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> > [2]Seattle Washington
> Dealership | Cats Exotics
> > [51]http://www.catsexotics.com
> > Cats Exotics is your Seattle
> Washington dealership. We sell new and
> > used cars, trucks, vans, and
> SUVs.
> >
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [52]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> > 2. [53]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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> Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
> I thought I had a good tune when I
> recorded 22mpg - although that was
> at 70 - 75 mph.
> dave
> On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
> wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
> that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
> specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
> That original window sticker is a bit
> misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
> the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
> wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for sure have more
> than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
> Julian
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
> Exotics follow up and Ford GT
> I went to go inspect the car today. It was
> next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
> gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
> Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done
> and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an interested
> buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
> I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
> like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
> we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and car stuff
> in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
> primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
> place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found
> another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is
> surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like
> the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all
> the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
> tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't show up and
> I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the
> Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1][3][56]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
> Exotics
> [4][57]http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
> dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> References
> 1. [5][58]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:47 -0700
> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
> To: [66]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
> up and
> Ford GT
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252";
> Format="flowed"
> With the Pantera that is.
> On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> > The Ford GT is a truly great
> car, but for that price you could have
> > your choice of a MK1 replica
> built to your specs and still have change
> > for one of the Lamborghini's!
> >
> > That original window sticker is
> a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> > 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
> i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> > original selling dealer markup.
> Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> > then, if I had it would for
> sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> > though!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> > Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
> 11:48 AM
> > To: Pantera Mail List
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
> L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
> >
> > I went to go inspect the car
> today. It was next door in the detailing
> > shop.
> > The sales guy, John Zuberek,
> could not gain access since they were
> > closed.
> > He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
> Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> > So he is going to email me when
> it's done and I can go back for a look
> > next
> > week.
> > He also said they have an
> interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> > explain the detailing.
> > They must have 20 Lamborghini's
> just that I could see and some other
> > speciality cars too.
> > Millions of dollars worth of
> cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> > vault.
> > I felt a little out of my
> comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> > in on
> > the different Lambo models and
> car stuff in general.They sell between
> > 15-30
> > cars a month and cater to Lambo
> buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> > of
> > the biggest Lambo dealers
> around.
> > He said the owner, Roy Cats,
> has a special place in his heart for
> > Panteras
> > though.
> > He indicated Roy had recently
> found another car he's purchasing soon.
> > Stay
> > tuned.
> > John also said they feel the
> market is surging for Panteras right now.
> > Duh!
> > But in the same breath he added
> "it's like the stock market ,who
> > knows?".
> > They did have a car I would
> take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> > GT
> > in Gulf livery.
> > So I took a few pics for you. I
> haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> > please
> > let me know PM if they don't
> show up and I'll find another way to post.
> > Let you know what I find out
> about the Pantera later this week.
> > Matt
> > 3584
> > [1][67]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> > [2]Seattle Washington
> Dealership | Cats Exotics
> > [68]http://www.catsexotics.com
> > Cats Exotics is your Seattle
> Washington dealership. We sell new and
> > used cars, trucks, vans, and
> SUVs.
> >
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [69]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> > 2. [70]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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> With the Pantera that is.
> On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
> wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
> that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
> specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
> That original window sticker is a bit
> misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
> the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
> wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for sure have more
> than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
> Julian
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
> Exotics follow up and Ford GT
> I went to go inspect the car today. It was
> next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
> gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
> Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when it's done
> and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an interested
> buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
> I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
> like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
> we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and car stuff
> in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
> primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
> place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently found
> another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the market is
> surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added "it's like
> the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would take over all
> the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
> tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't show up and
> I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out about the
> Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1][3][73]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
> Exotics
> [4][74]http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
> dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
> pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
> References
> 1. [5][75]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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