[DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk
Ed Mendez
edducati at mac.com
Tue Aug 9 16:13:01 EDT 2016
Check with Mike Mayberry cc'd in this email. mikedmayberry at hotmail.com
Ed
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(Asa Jay Laughton)
2. NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
Maseratisource (Mike Thomas)
3. 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT (Matt)
4. Re: Has anyone researched hood
vent designs?
(Dave Londry)
(Charles Engles)
5. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
(Julian Kift)
6. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
(Dave Londry)
7. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:07:11 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] latest numbers in AC that has been
retrofitted
to 134a?
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I've not done A/C since my days in
Automotive Technology school. But
as I recall, the "goal" was to have 45F
degrees at the vents.
38F at the vents sounds pretty darn good
to me. :)
Can you come and do mine?
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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On 8/7/2016 3:25 AM, Jeff Cobb wrote:
Jim,
How cold do you want to be?
You are almost as cold as Hillary
Clinton's soul!
Remove tools and hang meat.
Jeff
On Aug 6, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Pantdino
[3]<[1]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
So at 83F ambient temp and 1500 rpm I see
7 psi on low side and 250 on
high.
I got one of those vent thermometers and
it shows 35F at the vent.
Sounds pretty good to me
Or should I add a bit more 134?
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To: jeffcobb1 [5]<[3]jeffcobb1 at me.com>;
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Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
Jeff,
I hooked up the high pressure side gauge
and get these numbers:
before starting car, 100 psi both sides
after system settles down, at 1500 rpm,
low side 7 psi, high side 225
psi. As the car warmed the engine
speed increased to maybe 1750 rpm
and the high side was creeping up to
240-250 but the low was staying at
5-7.
Ambient temp was 77F, so should be about
40-45 low side, 170 high side.
According to the info sheet, this "Hi side
too high, low side too low"
situation would imply "blockage of
expansion valve or orifice tube."
Would that be from having the R12 valve in
a system now using 134?
I used my laser thermometer on the vents
and got 20-40F, but I suspect
that kind of thermometer is not accurate
for this application because
on my street car I got like 13F, which I
think cannot be right.
Anyway, it seems to me if I add more 134 I
run the risk of blowing the
high side hose at 3000 rpm and 85F
temp. Does that sound right?
I do have 15 12 oz cans of old school R12
I bought way back when, so I
could switch to R12, but I would have to
take the car to have the 134
recycled, replace the dryer, put the
system under vacuum, etc so would
like not to.
Thank you,
Jim
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From: JEFFREY COBB [7]<[5]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: Pantdino [8]<[6]pantdino at aol.com>;
detomaso
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Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 3:37 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
Jim,
All cars use different pressures and
for examples this week we did a/c
work on a 124 Fiat, many
Benz-Bmws-Toyotas, a 71 e-type, Ford +Chevy
trucks, a Cobra kit car and a Mangusta.
But basic pressures at 1,500 rpm with
cooling fans on and on high, with
both windows open, rear and front hatch
closed, high fan and not on
recirc should be about 35 + - low side and
250 + - high. Seems like a
7:1 ratio works the best. Converted
systems do need different numbers
but never too much of a change. So your
low range should vary from 20
to 38 psi and the high 210 to 260 psi as
long as above written
parameters are meet. The proper pressures
will equate to the coolest
temps. You have to note that and remember
you are just setting the vent
output for the coolest temp not some
pre-considered ideal temp you hope
for.
About 30 % of all of our a/c fixes are
fixing the stuck on heaters. We
are in hot Louisiana, make sure your
heater is truly shut off by doing
a liquid test.
Do use the correct oil and add 2 oz if you
are not sure of how much is
in. You can always expel the working high
side into a cloth or jug for
2 seconds to get an idea if you are oily
enough. A lot of spit
indicates fine but dry expelled gas needs
oil.
Keep cool,
Jeff
Jeff Cobb- I pad
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C-225-907-4514
Jeff Cobb Auto Works
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Baton Rouge, La.
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Pantdino
[10]<[9]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
Hi, Jeff,
What should the pressures be?
Thank you,
Jim
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From: Jeff Cobb [11]<[10]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: Pantdino [12]<[11]pantdino at aol.com>;
detomaso
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Cc: Jeff Cobb [14]<[13]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2016 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
The sight glass is always used as a
reference point. You must go by the
dual gauges.
Never by the low side only.
Jeff Cobb
On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Pantdino via
DeTomaso
[15]<[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
wrote:
> After switching the AC system to
134a, do you use the sight glass in
> the dryer or go by the pressure at
the low pressure port like with
> modern cars?
>
> Sorry, but I don't recall what I
learned several years ago when I
> switched the system over.
>
> Jim Oddie
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:06:54 -0700
From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
Maseratisource
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A very original Maserati Khamsin Ebay listing sent out by
Masertisource.
Very original, but definitely not flawless. Pretty
car, except for the
butt-ugly US bumpers. The front looks like it's
choking on a hockey puck,
the back is just a visual mess between the PANTERA tail
lights, and the
rubber transom of a bumper. It is the perfect color
though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maserati-KHAMSIN-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/401164735310?for
cerrptr=true&hash=item5d6748134e:g:sxQAAOSwhOdXoe8V&item=401164735310
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:48:56 -0700
From: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
To: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT
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I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
detailing shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
they were closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
for a look next
week.
He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
a bank vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
filled me in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
sell between 15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
to be one of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
heart for Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
purchasing soon. Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
right now. Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
,who knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
2006 Ford GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
yet so please
let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
week.
Matt
3584
http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on the different Lambo models and car
stuff in general.They sell
between 15-30 cars a month and cater to
Lambo buyers primarily. They
claim to be one of the biggest Lambo
dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please let me know PM if they don't show
up and I'll find another way
to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
[1]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:36:12 -0500
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "'Asa Jay Laughton'" <asajay at asajay.com>,
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood
vent designs? (Dave
Londry)
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Dear Asa,
I do know that
Larry Stock's high speed aero mods seem to include
a belly pan when I reviewed the double secret pictures he
kindly sent me.
Perhaps Larry might comment.
Warmest
regards, Chuck Engles
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On Behalf
Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:56 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent
designs? (Dave
Londry)
Yes, and somebody found it and returned it. If I
recall correctly, he lost
his deck lid due to a hinge pin that came out. After
that, most of us
drilled our pins for clips or safety wire. Here is an
example from mine
when I drilled for cotter pins:
http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Item
id=57&g2_itemId=5517
This should prevent losing the deck lid entirely as long as
the hinges stay
intact. However, it might be a good idea, like what
Dan was eluding to, to
have some kind of back-up in place like a thick bungee cord
under the deck
lid in case it unlatches. Make it short enough that
the deck-lid doesn't
come up any more than a few inches.
Didn't somebody try a belly-pan under the rear of car at one
time? I
thought I remember somebody trying that but don't remember
any conclusions.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &
Shelley Marie Spokane, WA
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 8/6/2016 4:00 PM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote:
> I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck
lid. I think Mad
Dog lost his too.
>
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney<dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
>>
>> As one who does drive at very high
speed I can tell you the front hood
>> does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta,
which has two custom hood vents
>> behind the radiator. It has rubber
straps to keep it from getting too
>> high, while also letting the air
escape.
>> Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of
upward pressure on the rear deck
>> lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck
lids (one in a somewhat famous
>> incident along the Silver State
Challenge route).
>> Weave reinforced the hinge pins and
louvers are on the drawing board.
>> Iave also noticed the car settles down
significantly once the rear
deck
>> lid is gone. At first I didnat realize
why the rear was finally
>> settling down and holding the ground,
until the end of the route when
I
>> walked around and noticed the deck lid
was gone.
>>
>> Dan
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:46:23 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>,
Pantera Mail List
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and
Ford GT
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The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for that price you
could have your choice of a MK1 replica built to your specs
and still have change for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit misleading, the MSRP
for a 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing the
$184,995 represents the original selling dealer markup. Yes,
I wish I'd purchased one back then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it though!
Julian
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on behalf of Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
detailing shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
they were closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
for a look next
week.
He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
a bank vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
filled me in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
sell between 15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
to be one of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
heart for Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
purchasing soon. Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
right now. Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
,who knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
2006 Ford GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
yet so please
let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
week.
Matt
3584
http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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http://www.catsexotics.com
Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington dealership. We sell
new and used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
[1]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
[2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
Exotics
http://www.catsexotics.com
Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
dealership. We sell new and
used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
References
1. http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
2. http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:10 -0700
From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and
Ford GT
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Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
I thought I had a good tune when I recorded 22mpg - although
that was at
70 - 75 mph.
dave
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great
car, but for that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica
built to your specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
>
> That original window sticker is
a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup.
Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
> Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
>
> I went to go inspect the car
today. It was next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek,
could not gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when
it's done and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an
interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's
just that I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of
cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my
comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and
car stuff in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo
buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers
around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats,
has a special place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently
found another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the
market is surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added
"it's like the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would
take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I
haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't
show up and I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out
about the Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington
Dealership | Cats Exotics
> http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle
Washington dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and
SUVs.
>
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
>
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>
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Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
I thought I had a good tune when I
recorded 22mpg - although that was
at 70 - 75 mph.
dave
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
wrote:
The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
[1][3]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
[2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
Exotics
[4]http://www.catsexotics.com
Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
dealership. We sell new and
used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
References
1. [5]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:47 -0700
From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and
Ford GT
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With the Pantera that is.
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great
car, but for that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica
built to your specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
>
> That original window sticker is
a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup.
Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
> Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
>
> I went to go inspect the car
today. It was next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek,
could not gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when
it's done and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an
interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's
just that I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of
cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my
comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and
car stuff in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo
buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers
around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats,
has a special place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently
found another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the
market is surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added
"it's like the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would
take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I
haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't
show up and I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out
about the Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington
Dealership | Cats Exotics
> http://www.catsexotics.com
> Cats Exotics is your Seattle
Washington dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and
SUVs.
>
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
>
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With the Pantera that is.
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
wrote:
The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
[1][3]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
[2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
Exotics
[4]http://www.catsexotics.com
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dealership. We sell new and
used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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Ed
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: latest numbers in AC that has been
retrofitted to 134a?
(Asa Jay Laughton)
2. NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
Maseratisource (Mike Thomas)
3. 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT (Matt)
4. Re: Has anyone researched hood
vent designs?
(Dave Londry)
(Charles Engles)
5. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
(Julian Kift)
6. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
(Dave Londry)
7. Re: 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and Ford GT
(Dave Londry)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:07:11 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] latest numbers in AC that has been
retrofitted
to 134a?
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I've not done A/C since my days in
Automotive Technology school. But
as I recall, the "goal" was to have 45F
degrees at the vents.
38F at the vents sounds pretty darn good
to me. :)
Can you come and do mine?
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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On 8/7/2016 3:25 AM, Jeff Cobb wrote:
Jim,
How cold do you want to be?
You are almost as cold as Hillary
Clinton's soul!
Remove tools and hang meat.
Jeff
On Aug 6, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Pantdino
[3]<[1]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
So at 83F ambient temp and 1500 rpm I see
7 psi on low side and 250 on
high.
I got one of those vent thermometers and
it shows 35F at the vent.
Sounds pretty good to me
Or should I add a bit more 134?
-----Original Message-----
From: Pantdino [4]<[2]pantdino at aol.com>
To: jeffcobb1 [5]<[3]jeffcobb1 at me.com>;
detomaso
[6]<[4]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
Jeff,
I hooked up the high pressure side gauge
and get these numbers:
before starting car, 100 psi both sides
after system settles down, at 1500 rpm,
low side 7 psi, high side 225
psi. As the car warmed the engine
speed increased to maybe 1750 rpm
and the high side was creeping up to
240-250 but the low was staying at
5-7.
Ambient temp was 77F, so should be about
40-45 low side, 170 high side.
According to the info sheet, this "Hi side
too high, low side too low"
situation would imply "blockage of
expansion valve or orifice tube."
Would that be from having the R12 valve in
a system now using 134?
I used my laser thermometer on the vents
and got 20-40F, but I suspect
that kind of thermometer is not accurate
for this application because
on my street car I got like 13F, which I
think cannot be right.
Anyway, it seems to me if I add more 134 I
run the risk of blowing the
high side hose at 3000 rpm and 85F
temp. Does that sound right?
I do have 15 12 oz cans of old school R12
I bought way back when, so I
could switch to R12, but I would have to
take the car to have the 134
recycled, replace the dryer, put the
system under vacuum, etc so would
like not to.
Thank you,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: JEFFREY COBB [7]<[5]jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: Pantdino [8]<[6]pantdino at aol.com>;
detomaso
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Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 3:37 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
Jim,
All cars use different pressures and
for examples this week we did a/c
work on a 124 Fiat, many
Benz-Bmws-Toyotas, a 71 e-type, Ford +Chevy
trucks, a Cobra kit car and a Mangusta.
But basic pressures at 1,500 rpm with
cooling fans on and on high, with
both windows open, rear and front hatch
closed, high fan and not on
recirc should be about 35 + - low side and
250 + - high. Seems like a
7:1 ratio works the best. Converted
systems do need different numbers
but never too much of a change. So your
low range should vary from 20
to 38 psi and the high 210 to 260 psi as
long as above written
parameters are meet. The proper pressures
will equate to the coolest
temps. You have to note that and remember
you are just setting the vent
output for the coolest temp not some
pre-considered ideal temp you hope
for.
About 30 % of all of our a/c fixes are
fixing the stuck on heaters. We
are in hot Louisiana, make sure your
heater is truly shut off by doing
a liquid test.
Do use the correct oil and add 2 oz if you
are not sure of how much is
in. You can always expel the working high
side into a cloth or jug for
2 seconds to get an idea if you are oily
enough. A lot of spit
indicates fine but dry expelled gas needs
oil.
Keep cool,
Jeff
Jeff Cobb- I pad
W-225-343-7525
C-225-907-4514
Jeff Cobb Auto Works
1316 S. Acadian Thruway
Baton Rouge, La.
70806
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Pantdino
[10]<[9]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
Hi, Jeff,
What should the pressures be?
Thank you,
Jim
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Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2016 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] use sight glass in
AC that has been retrofitted
to 134a?
The sight glass is always used as a
reference point. You must go by the
dual gauges.
Never by the low side only.
Jeff Cobb
On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Pantdino via
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wrote:
> After switching the AC system to
134a, do you use the sight glass in
> the dryer or go by the pressure at
the low pressure port like with
> modern cars?
>
> Sorry, but I don't recall what I
learned several years ago when I
> switched the system over.
>
> Jim Oddie
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:06:54 -0700
From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: '78 Maserati Khamsin on
Maseratisource
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A very original Maserati Khamsin Ebay listing sent out by
Masertisource.
Very original, but definitely not flawless. Pretty
car, except for the
butt-ugly US bumpers. The front looks like it's
choking on a hockey puck,
the back is just a visual mess between the PANTERA tail
lights, and the
rubber transom of a bumper. It is the perfect color
though.
[24]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maserati-KHAMSIN-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/4011647
35310?for
cerrptr=true&hash=item5d6748134e:g:sxQAAOSwhOdXoe8V&item=401164735310
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:48:56 -0700
From: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
To: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT
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I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
detailing shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
they were closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
for a look next
week.
He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
a bank vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
filled me in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
sell between 15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
to be one of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
heart for Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
purchasing soon. Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
right now. Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
,who knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
2006 Ford GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
yet so please
let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
week.
Matt
3584
[25]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on the different Lambo models and car
stuff in general.They sell
between 15-30 cars a month and cater to
Lambo buyers primarily. They
claim to be one of the biggest Lambo
dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please let me know PM if they don't show
up and I'll find another way
to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
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pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:36:12 -0500
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "'Asa Jay Laughton'" <asajay at asajay.com>,
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood
vent designs? (Dave
Londry)
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Dear Asa,
I do know that
Larry Stock's high speed aero mods seem to include
a belly pan when I reviewed the double secret pictures he
kindly sent me.
Perhaps Larry might comment.
Warmest
regards, Chuck Engles
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On Behalf
Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:56 PM
To: [31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent
designs? (Dave
Londry)
Yes, and somebody found it and returned it. If I
recall correctly, he lost
his deck lid due to a hinge pin that came out. After
that, most of us
drilled our pins for clips or safety wire. Here is an
example from mine
when I drilled for cotter pins:
[32]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gal
lery&Item
id=57&g2_itemId=5517
This should prevent losing the deck lid entirely as long as
the hinges stay
intact. However, it might be a good idea, like what
Dan was eluding to, to
have some kind of back-up in place like a thick bungee cord
under the deck
lid in case it unlatches. Make it short enough that
the deck-lid doesn't
come up any more than a few inches.
Didn't somebody try a belly-pan under the rear of car at one
time? I
thought I remember somebody trying that but don't remember
any conclusions.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &
Shelley Marie Spokane, WA
******************************
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On 8/6/2016 4:00 PM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote:
> I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck
lid. I think Mad
Dog lost his too.
>
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney<dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
>>
>> As one who does drive at very high
speed I can tell you the front hood
>> does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta,
which has two custom hood vents
>> behind the radiator. It has rubber
straps to keep it from getting too
>> high, while also letting the air
escape.
>> Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of
upward pressure on the rear deck
>> lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck
lids (one in a somewhat famous
>> incident along the Silver State
Challenge route).
>> Weave reinforced the hinge pins and
louvers are on the drawing board.
>> Iave also noticed the car settles down
significantly once the rear
deck
>> lid is gone. At first I didnat realize
why the rear was finally
>> settling down and holding the ground,
until the end of the route when
I
>> walked around and noticed the deck lid
was gone.
>>
>> Dan
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:46:23 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>,
Pantera Mail List
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and
Ford GT
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The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for that price you
could have your choice of a MK1 replica built to your specs
and still have change for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit misleading, the MSRP
for a 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing the
$184,995 represents the original selling dealer markup. Yes,
I wish I'd purchased one back then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it though!
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up
and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the
detailing shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since
they were closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing
Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back
for a look next
week.
He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they
all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and
some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into
a bank vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he
filled me in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They
sell between 15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim
to be one of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his
heart for Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's
purchasing soon. Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras
right now. Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market
,who knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a
2006 Ford GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics
yet so please
let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another
way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this
week.
Matt
3584
[42]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
Exotics<[43]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso->
[44]http://www.catsexotics.com
Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington dealership. We sell
new and used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
[1][45]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
[2]Seattle Washington Dealership | Cats
Exotics
[46]http://www.catsexotics.com
Cats Exotics is your Seattle Washington
dealership. We sell new and
used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:10 -0700
From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
To: [49]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
up and
Ford GT
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Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
I thought I had a good tune when I recorded 22mpg - although
that was at
70 - 75 mph.
dave
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great
car, but for that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica
built to your specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
>
> That original window sticker is
a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup.
Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
> Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
>
> I went to go inspect the car
today. It was next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek,
could not gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when
it's done and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an
interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's
just that I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of
cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my
comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and
car stuff in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo
buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers
around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats,
has a special place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently
found another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the
market is surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added
"it's like the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would
take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I
haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't
show up and I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out
about the Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
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Hey I looked at the EPA ratings.
I thought I had a good tune when I
recorded 22mpg - although that was
at 70 - 75 mph.
dave
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
wrote:
The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
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From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
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used cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:59:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow
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With the Pantera that is.
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> The Ford GT is a truly great
car, but for that price you could have
> your choice of a MK1 replica
built to your specs and still have change
> for one of the Lamborghini's!
>
> That original window sticker is
a bit misleading, the MSRP for a
> 2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so
i'm guessing the $184,995 represents the
> original selling dealer markup.
Yes, I wish I'd purchased one back
> then, if I had it would for
sure have more than 2,900 miles on it
> though!
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
> Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016
11:48 AM
> To: Pantera Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera
L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
>
> I went to go inspect the car
today. It was next door in the detailing
> shop.
> The sales guy, John Zuberek,
could not gain access since they were
> closed.
> He reminded me of Tom Cruise in
Risky Business, dealing Lambos!
> So he is going to email me when
it's done and I can go back for a look
> next
> week.
> He also said they have an
interested buyer(don't they all?),which may
> explain the detailing.
> They must have 20 Lamborghini's
just that I could see and some other
> speciality cars too.
> Millions of dollars worth of
cars. I felt like I walked into a bank
> vault.
> I felt a little out of my
comfort zone but we talked and he filled me
> in on
> the different Lambo models and
car stuff in general.They sell between
> 15-30
> cars a month and cater to Lambo
buyers primarily. They claim to be one
> of
> the biggest Lambo dealers
around.
> He said the owner, Roy Cats,
has a special place in his heart for
> Panteras
> though.
> He indicated Roy had recently
found another car he's purchasing soon.
> Stay
> tuned.
> John also said they feel the
market is surging for Panteras right now.
> Duh!
> But in the same breath he added
"it's like the stock market ,who
> knows?".
> They did have a car I would
take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford
> GT
> in Gulf livery.
> So I took a few pics for you. I
haven't tried attaching pics yet so
> please
> let me know PM if they don't
show up and I'll find another way to post.
> Let you know what I find out
about the Pantera later this week.
> Matt
> 3584
> [1][67]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-
> [2]Seattle Washington
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> [68]http://www.catsexotics.com
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Washington dealership. We sell new and
> used cars, trucks, vans, and
SUVs.
>
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>
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>
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With the Pantera that is.
On 2016-08-07 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
wrote:
The Ford GT is a truly great car, but for
that price you could have
your choice of a MK1 replica built to your
specs and still have change
for one of the Lamborghini's!
That original window sticker is a bit
misleading, the MSRP for a
2006 Ford GT was $149,995, so i'm guessing
the $184,995 represents the
original selling dealer markup. Yes, I
wish I'd purchased one back
then, if I had it would for sure have more
than 2,900 miles on it
though!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
Matt [2]<nwpantera at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Pantera Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera L at Cats
Exotics follow up and Ford GT
I went to go inspect the car today. It was
next door in the detailing
shop.
The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not
gain access since they were
closed.
He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky
Business, dealing Lambos!
So he is going to email me when it's done
and I can go back for a look
next
week.
He also said they have an interested
buyer(don't they all?),which may
explain the detailing.
They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that
I could see and some other
speciality cars too.
Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt
like I walked into a bank
vault.
I felt a little out of my comfort zone but
we talked and he filled me
in on
the different Lambo models and car stuff
in general.They sell between
15-30
cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers
primarily. They claim to be one
of
the biggest Lambo dealers around.
He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special
place in his heart for
Panteras
though.
He indicated Roy had recently found
another car he's purchasing soon.
Stay
tuned.
John also said they feel the market is
surging for Panteras right now.
Duh!
But in the same breath he added "it's like
the stock market ,who
knows?".
They did have a car I would take over all
the rest though, a 2006 Ford
GT
in Gulf livery.
So I took a few pics for you. I haven't
tried attaching pics yet so
please
let me know PM if they don't show up and
I'll find another way to post.
Let you know what I find out about the
Pantera later this week.
Matt
3584
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