[DeTomaso] Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 6 11:00:39 EDT 2016 

It's not just Pantera's all of the auction house estimates seem high IMO, I guess it's a ploy to make bidders think they might be getting a good deal when bidding falls short. I was amazed at some of the estimates attached to modern Porsche's... $500K for a Porsche is 911 variant is crazy IMO!


Julian

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From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:04 AM
To: Julian Kift; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)

Wow.  Do they really expect $130,000 to $170,000 for each of these?

On 8/6/16, 12:18 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   It's slow on the list and I've just returned from
>   an afternoon at the Hot August Nights auction now run by Motorsports
>   Auction Group (MAG) after BJ blew Reno off (literally). It seemed there
>   were a lot of no sales, those cars that did sell (of cars that would be
>   of interest to me) seemed mostly well bought. No Pantera's and as
>   expected a lot of hot rods, which are very much an individual taste
>   IMO, usually coveted most by the guy that built it more than anyone
>   else!. Dave Kindig and his sidekick were there with the GM Futureliner
>   (feature lot) a 60' Caddy and an F100. I have to say the quality
>   of the workmanship and final finish was impressive.
>   On to upcoming auctions and the Pantera content as there's a 'Plethora
>   of Pantera's' coming up for sale in Monterey in a couple weeks. Yes I
>   purposely put 'pride' aside as last time all those Southern cats got
>   together they stirred up a hornets nest, but also because when you look
>   up a group of Panther's (not withstanding they are solitary
>   felines) they would be a 'leap' and not a pride! You wouldn't believe
>   the hits I got for a group of Cougars....... Anyway enough of the
>   multiplicity of big cats and onto the multiples of Pantera's coming up
>   for auction;
>   Mecum seems to have the 'leap' on all the other auctions with six
>   Pantera's on the lot list;
>   [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
>   [2]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/
>   [3]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/
>   [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/
>   [5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/
>   [6]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
>   None of the other major auction houses had any De Tomaso models listed.
>   Julian
>
>References
>
>   Visible links
>   1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
[https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/ca0816/ca0816-244447/images/ca0816-244447_1@2x.jpg]<https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/>

1974 DeTomaso Pantera Unrestored with 10,926 Miles, Well ...<https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/>
www.mecum.com
Highly regarded by enthusiasts for its Italian pedigree and good old-fashioned American brute power, the DeTomaso Pantera carved its own niche in the world of exotic ...



>   2. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/
>   3. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/
>   4. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/
>   5. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/
>   6. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
>
>   Hidden links:
>   8. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
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   It's not just Pantera's all of the auction house estimates seem high
   IMO, I guess it's a ploy to make bidders think they might be getting a
   good deal when bidding falls short. I was amazed at some of the
   estimates attached to modern Porsche's... $500K for a Porsche is 911
   variant is crazy IMO!

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:04 AM
   To: Julian Kift; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)

   Wow.  Do they really expect $130,000 to $170,000 for each of these?
   On 8/6/16, 12:18 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >   It's slow on the list and I've just returned from
   >   an afternoon at the Hot August Nights auction now run by
   Motorsports
   >   Auction Group (MAG) after BJ blew Reno off (literally). It seemed
   there
   >   were a lot of no sales, those cars that did sell (of cars that
   would be
   >   of interest to me) seemed mostly well bought. No Pantera's and as
   >   expected a lot of hot rods, which are very much an individual taste
   >   IMO, usually coveted most by the guy that built it more than anyone
   >   else!. Dave Kindig and his sidekick were there with the GM
   Futureliner
   >   (feature lot) a 60' Caddy and an F100. I have to say the quality
   >   of the workmanship and final finish was impressive.
   >   On to upcoming auctions and the Pantera content as there's a
   'Plethora
   >   of Pantera's' coming up for sale in Monterey in a couple weeks. Yes
   I
   >   purposely put 'pride' aside as last time all those Southern cats
   got
   >   together they stirred up a hornets nest, but also because when you
   look
   >   up a group of Panther's (not withstanding they are solitary
   >   felines) they would be a 'leap' and not a pride! You wouldn't
   believe
   >   the hits I got for a group of Cougars....... Anyway enough of the
   >   multiplicity of big cats and onto the multiples of Pantera's coming
   up
   >   for auction;
   >   Mecum seems to have the 'leap' on all the other auctions with six
   >   Pantera's on the lot list;
   >   [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   >   [2]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   >   [3]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   >
   [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/
   >   [5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/
   >   [6]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
   >   None of the other major auction houses had any De Tomaso models
   listed.
   >   Julian
   >
   >References
   >
   >   Visible links
   >   1.
   [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   [2][ca0816-244447_1 at 2x.jpg]
   [3]1974 DeTomaso Pantera Unrestored with 10,926 Miles, Well ...
   www.mecum.com
   Highly regarded by enthusiasts for its Italian pedigree and good
   old-fashioned American brute power, the DeTomaso Pantera carved its own
   niche in the world of exotic ...
   >   2.
   [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   >   3.
   [5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   >   4.
   [6]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/
   >   5.
   [7]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/
   >   6.
   [8]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
   >
   >   Hidden links:
   >   8.
   [9]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
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References

   1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   2. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   3. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   4. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   5. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/
   6. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/
   7. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/
   8. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
   9. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/
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