[DeTomaso] Dan Gurney...old discussion...Re: F1 Experience

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Wed Apr 20 16:58:06 EDT 2016 

My weight shot up in the last 10 years. We started a diet 3 weeks ago and
I am down over 20 lbs so far.




>    Sorry to dig up an old discussion.
>    I was researching something and had a reason to call AAR. I asked the
>    lady on the line how much Mr. Gurney weighed during his professional
>    career. She shouted into another room at Dan's son who quickly replied
>    back.
>    I was guessing 185lbs and Michael Shortt guessed 210lbs.
>    We were both wrong!
>    165lbs during his professional career.
>    So, yes...we're all fat today. I'm going to cancel the Meat Lover's
>    Pizza I just ordered!
>
>    LSJ
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>    From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>    To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>    Cc: Jack Donahue <demongusta at me.com>; "detomaso at poca.com"
>    <detomaso at poca.com>; Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
>    Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:23 PM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>    Unless he was all skin and bones under that driver's suit, that's the
>    avg weight for a  large frame ( his shoulder width ) male.
>    Plus I'm pretty good at sizing people up since I've done casting for
>    30+ years.  He could have been 185 if no muscle mass, but given the
>    rigors of driving back then,
>    I'd say Dan was in great shape and muscle weighs more than fat without
>    making you look heavy.
>    Arnold is not 6'2" tall, that's was always a lie., more like 5'11 1/2"
>    Stallone is 5"9 1/2", look at them side by side.   Then look at them
>    with joe pesci who is 5'3" tall.  and they all wear cowboy boots with
>    lifts.
>    Check out Gurney in a sea of normal sized people.
>    On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM, LS <[3]lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>    Michael, where did you get Dan's weight?
>    I would've guessed 185 at the most...
>    [4]http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/316/7/2/phill_hill___dan_
>    gurney_tony_brooks__germany_1959__by_f1_history-d5ksi6c.jpg
>    210lbs would make him 17 lbs off Arnold when he won his last Mr Olympia
>    at almost 6'2".
>    [5]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/nXvt9di7e58/maxresdefault.jpg
>    Until we started getting really fat 20 yrs ago, only power/strength
>    athletes were over 200 lbs.
>    LS
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>    From: "[9]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[10]michael at michaelshortt.com>
>    To: Jack Donahue <[11]demongusta at me.com>
>    Cc: [12]detomaso at poca.com; Gray Gregory <[13]rgg at gregorycook.com>
>    Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:40 PM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>    Dan Gurney was 6'3" tall and about 210 lbs.
>    On Dec 10, 2013 10:32 PM, "Jack Donahue" <[14]demongusta at me.com> wrote:
>
>    The GT40 that Gurney drove had a bubble in the roof so he could fit
>    into it.
>    On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Gray Gregory wrote:
>
>
>
>    From: Gray Gregory
>    Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:27 PM
>    To: '[15]michael at michaelshortt.com'
>    Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>
>    All the old time drivers Iave met (except Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt)
>    have been pretty small so I think they would probably fit fine. Iave
>    also tried to get into a lot of old F1 cars and I havenat found one yet
>    I can fit into very well, so the cars werenat very big either. :>)
>
>    As for the power steering, yes the modern cars do but they also make a
>    lot more down force and have much more grip, so aman handlinga one
>    through a fast sweeper is still probably pretty much the same or maybe
>    even harder todaya|
>
>    Gray
>
>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
>    Of [17]michael at michaelshortt.com
>    Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:30 PM
>    To: LS
>    Cc: [18]detomaso at poca.com; [19]jderyke at aol.com; [20]pantera at austin.rr.c
>    om
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>
>    Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory
>    years of F1, there was 10% chance you would die
>    during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements
>    safety measures that have evolved to the
>    current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)
>    Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs
>    ) in a time limited race with a shorter courses.
>    I'd bet that none of the  50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle
>    those cars could fit in a modern car.
>
>    Michael
>
>    On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <[21]lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>    It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals.
>    New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes
>    world class athletes with baby bumps.
>    Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to
>    drive the old cars?
>    Some do, some don't...
>    LS
>
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>    From: "[25]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[26]michael at michaelshortt.com>
>    To: mark skwarek <[27]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
>    Cc: "[28]jderyke at aol.com" <[29]jderyke at aol.com>;
>    "[30]lashdeep at yahoo.com" <[31]lashdeep at yahoo.com>;
>    "[32]pantera at austin.rr.com" <[33]pantera at austin.rr.com>;
>    "[34]detomaso at poca.com" <[35]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>
>    The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.
>    Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost
>    dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.
>
>    The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I
>    doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older
>    cars.
>
>    Michael
>
>    On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <[36]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
>    wrote:
>    There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your
>    Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it
>    can do. I love the Daytona road course.
>    Mark
>
>    On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "[37]jderyke at aol.com"
>    <[38]jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
>    Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi
>    factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny
>    drivers could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have
>    changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no
>    illusions I'd fit today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: LS <[39]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>    To: Richard Greenblum <[40]pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum
>    <[41]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>    Sounds amazing...any pics or video?
>    Thanks,
>    LS
>
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>    From: Richard Greenblum <[45]pantera at austin.rr.com>
>    To: deTomaso Forum <[46]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>
>    All,
>
>    I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in
>    Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the
>    Austin F1 track).  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.
>
>    We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the
>    afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning
>    was wet, but they still ran the cars, only on full wets.
>
>    I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly
>    recommend signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA
>    tentatively on 22 March and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a
>    bit expensiveaI don't anymore.  It was worth every penny.
>
>    Richard
>    Austin, TX
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