[DeTomaso] Future of the email list

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Wed Apr 20 14:28:27 EDT 2016


Hi Doug,

I respectfully disagree.

When I bought my Pantera, Michael Frazier and Carter Boyer stopped by and
gave me a free inspection, and plenty of free advice.

My Pantera broke in Little Rock, and Mike Trusty offered to pick up my car
and repair it - for free (naturally I assumed I would buy parts).  He
caught me at the airport, so I flew back the next week.  I removed the
broken parts, and he repaired it for free.  The rear wheel bearings had
fallen apart.  I bought lunch, but that's a fraction of the labor and
experience donated by Mike.

My Pantera broke again at the Big Bend Open Road Race.  Steve Hawkins put
my car on his flat bed, and I drove his car back.  A local guy (previous
owner of my car) offered to fix my car or at least garage it until I could
get it fixed.   - for free.

The list goes on and on, with help from Kirby, Gray, John T., etc.

Socialism is when you expect something to be free because you are entitled
to it - like free health care, free iPhones, welfare, but that's not what
I'm describing.

I'm describing a community with common interests where we help one another
and share ideas, experiences, advice, etc.  That's what the e-mail list
represents to me, and it was one of the reasons I chose a Pantera over a
Ferrari.
--
Will





On 4/20/16 2:07 PM, "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net> wrote:

>WHOA!!!!!!! Slow down there Willy boy! There's so many misstatements of
>facts and logical inconsistencies in #5, I don't know where to start!
>Outside of sunsets on the beach (a PUBLIC beach, that is), the air you
>breath and moonlight walks with your sweetie, few things in life are free.
>And I'm willing (no pun intended) to bet your sweetie isn't exactly free
>either! "Once you have to pay for it, it either isn't enjoyable or you
>wouldn't pay for it, even if it's cheap." WTF does that even mean?!!!!!
>You've never paid for anything that was enjoyable? Twitter? Don't want it
>at
>any price. Yahoo groups? Am a member of several and WOULD pay if required.
>Youtube? Use it all the time, but could live without it if I'd never
>discovered it. All the preceding are ad based revenue generators, much
>like
>newspapers and magazines, both of which could survive without subscription
>income. They don't NEED to charge YOU anything 'cause they're charging
>SOMEBODY ELSE! #6: If you willing to pay for something that others enjoy
>for
>free, that's called charity, and it's a good thing which all (or most) of
>us
>support in one form or another, as long as it's not forced upon us (note
>to
>all the "Social Democrats" lurking out there!).
>
>Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Will
>Kooiman
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:35 AM
>To: detomaso at poca.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Future of the email list
>
>My points.
>
>
>5.  I strongly disagree that nothing should be free.  Some of the best
>things in life are free.  Once you have to pay for it, it either isn¹t
>enjoyable or you wouldn¹t pay for it, even if it¹s cheap.  Would you join
>Facebook if you had to pay $20?  What about Twitter, yahoo groups,
>youtube?
>How many of us have watched the engine masters videos?  Would you pay per
>view?  How many of us download free apps, but won¹t pay $1 for the same
>type
>of app that might be better?
>
>6.  Of course, I understand that the mail list, the website, Profiles,
>etc.
>costs money to run, and that¹s why I¹m a POCA member - partly for
>Profiles +
>the newsletter, but also to help support the community.
>
>Will.
>
>
>






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