[DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: Email Forum Opportunity

[Michael Shortt]

> As you are not to privy the non public emails sent to me, you are
assuming, as well as speaking from a disadvantage.
>
> The fact remains, the issue was settled early with a generous offer to
adopt the email forum and return it to the independent status from wence it
came.
>
> Everything that followed was exactly as described.
>
> A failure to comprehend the simple statement, the new website host and
integrated system is incapable of supporting the email forum.
>
> Whining, complaining, calling me names, reliving history, and recalling
the good old days does not change the fact that it simply will not work.
> It's not like we sat around and said, "Hey, let's think of a way to piss
everybody off".
>
> One person publicly understood and stepped up to adopt it and will
relaunch it. That was the desired outcome.
>
> 20 others piled on, changing nothing, 20 more sent private messages of
support.
>
> If I am to be the lighting rod, so be it.
>
> We are going to keep the membership informed, and operate completely in
the open in all aspects of how the club is operated. While I did not
anticipate such vitroil and hate, I asked for this job, many of the
initiatives to improve and reboot how the club operates are necessary.
> We are blessed to have a majority on the BOD who give selflessly, work
tirelessly and contribute endlessly to ensure the club serves its members
and the best interests of the club.
>
> The club could just coast another 10 years, the problem is something
called rolling resistance/friction, allowing it to do that is simply
allowing it to die.
> It would be much easier to smile and go along to get along.  I would love
to do such, with any luck, my second year will be less taxing than this
first one looks to be. After 3 months and 20 days, it can best be described
as "eventful". That is not the path I am taking, nor is it what the 77% of
voters who supportted me want. I ran as a change agent, I will not let them
down.
>
> I wish that many would try to see the big picture, the demographics of
the club, the realities of the world and the volatile sports/collector car
market/hobby and compare and contrast all of it into a salient, reasonable
forecast of need and action.
>
> That is what we are doing, anticipating the future by acknowledging the
very real challenges facing the club to which most members are blissfully
oblivious.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Apr 20, 2016 9:55 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>>
>>                You wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "............ so all the
>>  hate fill vitriol and insults were superfluous rants from those who
either
>>  did not read through the 5 separate announcements that nothing would
change
>>  except the URL address or from those hellbent on demonstrating perfectly
>>  why the public email forum is a horrible representation of the club."
>>
>>
>>
>>              I would respectfully observe that I did not perceive hate
fill (sic) vitriol and insults and superfluous rants.   What I read and
understood was that there is a goodly number of people that are very happy
with the old email system.   They detailed the help and benefits they have
obtained from it.    Some well respected participants proceeded to buy
Panteras and join POCA.   Their comments showed that despite it's
shortcomings, it has served many people very well.   Thoughtful commentary
yes.  Vitriol, I think not.
>>
>>
>>
>>  "It is the antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new members."
>>
>>              I would point out the situation of Dan Jones where the
"antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new members" actually
encouraged him to buy a Pantera and join POCA.   He has become a figure of
respect and knowledge in the Pantera community.
>>
>>
>>
>>             So, we shall wait for the new improved POCA Forum and the
"new Old Forum" to appear.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Sincerely,   Chuck Engles
>>
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   > As you are not to privy the non public emails sent to me, you are
   assuming, as well as speaking from a disadvantage.
   >
   > The fact remains, the issue was settled early with a generous offer
   to adopt the email forum and return it to the independent status from
   wence it came.
   >
   > Everything that followed was exactly as described.
   >
   > A failure to comprehend the simple statement, the new website host
   and integrated system is incapable of supporting the email forum.
   >
   > Whining, complaining, calling me names, reliving history, and
   recalling the good old days does not change the fact that it simply
   will not work.
   > It's not like we sat around and said, "Hey, let's think of a way to
   piss everybody off".
   >
   > One person publicly understood and stepped up to adopt it and will
   relaunch it. That was the desired outcome.
   >
   > 20 others piled on, changing nothing, 20 more sent private messages
   of support.
   >
   > If I am to be the lighting rod, so be it.
   >
   > We are going to keep the membership informed, and operate completely
   in the open in all aspects of how the club is operated. While I did not
   anticipate such vitroil and hate, I asked for this job, many of the
   initiatives to improve and reboot how the club operates are necessary.
   > We are blessed to have a majority on the BOD who give selflessly,
   work tirelessly and contribute endlessly to ensure the club serves its
   members and the best interests of the club.
   >
   > The club could just coast another 10 years, the problem is something
   called rolling resistance/friction, allowing it to do that is simply
   allowing it to die.
   > It would be much easier to smile and go along to get along.A  I would
   love to do such, with any luck, my second year will be less taxing than
   this first one looks to be. After 3 months and 20 days, it can best be
   described as "eventful". That is not the path I am taking, nor is it
   what the 77% of voters who supportted me want. I ran as a change agent,
   I will not let them down.
   >
   > I wish that many would try to see the big picture, the demographics
   of the club, the realities of the world and the volatile
   sports/collector car market/hobby and compare and contrast all of it
   into a salient, reasonable forecast of need and action.
   >
   > That is what we are doing, anticipating the future by acknowledging
   the very real challenges facing the club to which most members are
   blissfully oblivious.
   >
   > Michael Shortt
   >
   > On Apr 20, 2016 9:55 AM, <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >>
   >> Dear Michael,
   >>
   >>
   >> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A  You wrote:
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> "............ so all the
   >> A hate fill vitriol and insults were superfluous rants from those
   who either
   >> A did not read through the 5 separate announcements that nothing
   would change
   >> A except the URL address or from those hellbent on demonstrating
   perfectly
   >> A why the public email forum is a horrible representation of the
   club."
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> A A A A A A A A A A A A  I would respectfully observe that I did not
   perceive hate fill (sic) vitriol and insults and superfluous rants.A A
   What I read and understood was that there is a goodly number of people
   that are very happy with the old email system.A A  They detailed the
   help and benefits they have obtained from it.A A A  Some well respected
   participants proceeded to buy Panteras and join POCA.A A  Their
   comments showed that despite it's shortcomings, it has served many
   people very well.A A  Thoughtful commentary yes.A  Vitriol, I think
   not.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> A "It is the antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new
   members."
   >>
   >> A A A A A A A A A A A A  I would point out the situation of Dan
   Jones where the "antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new
   members" actually encouraged him to buy a Pantera and join POCA.A A  He
   has become a figure of respect and knowledge in the Pantera community.
   >> A
   >>
   >>
   >> A A A A A A A A A A A  So, we shall wait for the new improved POCA
   Forum and the "new Old Forum" to appear.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
   Sincerely,A A  Chuck Engles
   >>

References

   1. mailto:cengles at cox.net