[DeTomaso] FW: Re: Email Forum Opportunity

[marshall smith]

Exceptionally well said Mike!! The voice of reason strikes!

Marshall Smith
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On Wed, 4/20/16, Michael Arias via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Re:  Email Forum Opportunity
 To: detomaso at poca.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 8:52 AM
 
 
 Is anyone else getting tired/frustrated with all these
 emails on the email
 system,? Michael Shortt, you are doing a wonderful job of
 dragging dinosaurs
 into the 21st century.  Your bedside manners may be a
 bit rough, but, there
 is a reason that the dinosaurs became extinct.  Babies
 will suck off their
 mother's breast (can I use that word in a car forum?) until
 the mother says
 no more, even if that baby becomes a teenager.  In
 other words, when the web
 site is ready, just switch off the old email.  If you
 give people a cjhoice,
 they will rant and rave for months and quite frankly, as
 much as I enjoy the
 email system we have now, I am sure I will get used to the
 new one, as will
 everyone else threatening to quit, move or just die from the
 change.  One
 thing I have learned, give people a choice and you will be
 dragged into a
 debate for years.
 
 Good luck and just so you know, I will continue to be 
 POCA member
 regardless.
 
 Mike Arias
 Miami, FL
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
 On Behalf Of Julian Kift
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:26 AM
 To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Re: Email Forum Opportunity
 
 The fact is that there has been an alternative forum, much
 akin to the PI
 format available on the POCA site for a number of years and
 despite
 concerted efforts by a few individuals to drive traffic to
 the new site it
 failed dismally. Why is the new site different?
 
 What makes Mr. Shortt believe that forcing everyone to
 migrate to a new
 format that the content will be any different unless
 moderated and censored?
 
 The irony in all that I have read on the subject from Mr.
 Shortt is in the
 fact that not that long ago I recall him refusing to join
 POCA as "it served
 no use on the east coast" and having some rants of his own
 against the club.
 Ain't nothing like a born again Christian preaching to the
 congregation!
 Just all say Hallelujah and you can be saved from the demons
 of the email
 list!
 
 Julian
 ________________________________________
 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
 on behalf of cengles at cox.net
 <cengles at cox.net>
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:03 AM
 To: detomaso at poca.com
 Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Re:  Email Forum Opportunity
 
 -------- Begin forwarded message --------
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
 Date: 4/20/16 8:55:38 AM
 From: cengles at cox.net
 To: michaelsavga at gmail.com,
 detomaso at poca.net
 
 
 
 Dear Michael,
 
                 You
 wrote:
 
 
 "............ so all the
   hate fill vitriol and insults were superfluous rants
 from those who either
   did not read through the 5 separate announcements
 that nothing would
 change
   except the URL address or from those hellbent on
 demonstrating perfectly
   why the public email forum is a horrible
 representation of the club."
 
 
               I would
 respectfully observe that I did not perceive hate
 fill (sic) vitriol and insults and superfluous
 rants.   What I read and
 understood was that there is a goodly number of people that
 are very
 happy with the old email system.   They
 detailed the help and benefits
 they have obtained from it.    Some well respected
 participants
 proceeded to buy Panteras and join
 POCA.   Their comments showed that
 despite it's shortcomings, it has served many people very
 well.
 Thoughtful commentary yes.  Vitriol, I think not.
 
 
   "It is the antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract
 new members."
 
               I would
 point out the situation of Dan Jones where the
 "antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new members"
 actually
 encouraged him to buy a Pantera and join
 POCA.   He has become a figure
 of respect and knowledge in the Pantera community.
 
 
              So, we
 shall wait for the new improved POCA Forum and the "new
 Old Forum" to appear.
 
 
                
              
    Sincerely,   Chuck Engles
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