[DeTomaso] FW: Re: Email Forum Opportunity

[Michael Arias]

Is anyone else getting tired/frustrated with all these emails on the email
system,? Michael Shortt, you are doing a wonderful job of dragging dinosaurs
into the 21st century.  Your bedside manners may be a bit rough, but, there
is a reason that the dinosaurs became extinct.  Babies will suck off their
mother's breast (can I use that word in a car forum?) until the mother says
no more, even if that baby becomes a teenager.  In other words, when the web
site is ready, just switch off the old email.  If you give people a cjhoice,
they will rant and rave for months and quite frankly, as much as I enjoy the
email system we have now, I am sure I will get used to the new one, as will
everyone else threatening to quit, move or just die from the change.  One
thing I have learned, give people a choice and you will be dragged into a
debate for years.

Good luck and just so you know, I will continue to be  POCA member
regardless.

Mike Arias
Miami, FL


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:26 AM
To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Re: Email Forum Opportunity

The fact is that there has been an alternative forum, much akin to the PI
format available on the POCA site for a number of years and despite
concerted efforts by a few individuals to drive traffic to the new site it
failed dismally. Why is the new site different?

What makes Mr. Shortt believe that forcing everyone to migrate to a new
format that the content will be any different unless moderated and censored?

The irony in all that I have read on the subject from Mr. Shortt is in the
fact that not that long ago I recall him refusing to join POCA as "it served
no use on the east coast" and having some rants of his own against the club.
Ain't nothing like a born again Christian preaching to the congregation!
Just all say Hallelujah and you can be saved from the demons of the email
list!

Julian
________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of cengles at cox.net
<cengles at cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:03 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Re:  Email Forum Opportunity

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
Date: 4/20/16 8:55:38 AM
From: cengles at cox.net
To: michaelsavga at gmail.com, detomaso at poca.net



Dear Michael,

                You wrote:


"............ so all the
  hate fill vitriol and insults were superfluous rants from those who either
  did not read through the 5 separate announcements that nothing would
change
  except the URL address or from those hellbent on demonstrating perfectly
  why the public email forum is a horrible representation of the club."


              I would respectfully observe that I did not perceive hate
fill (sic) vitriol and insults and superfluous rants.   What I read and
understood was that there is a goodly number of people that are very
happy with the old email system.   They detailed the help and benefits
they have obtained from it.    Some well respected participants
proceeded to buy Panteras and join POCA.   Their comments showed that
despite it's shortcomings, it has served many people very well.
Thoughtful commentary yes.  Vitriol, I think not.


  "It is the antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new members."

              I would point out the situation of Dan Jones where the
"antithesis of a recruiting tool to attract new members" actually
encouraged him to buy a Pantera and join POCA.   He has become a figure
of respect and knowledge in the Pantera community.


             So, we shall wait for the new improved POCA Forum and the "new
Old Forum" to appear.


                                 Sincerely,   Chuck Engles
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