[DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Tue Apr 19 22:13:18 EDT 2016


> You can still get it, somebody else is going to manage it.
>
> That was the entire purpose of the original email - to find that person.
>
> Not to become a complainfest.
>
> It was stated at the forefront, the new servers for the new website will
not support the email forum. It is not a decision to not do it, it was
decided for us.
>
> None of you have a clue how much trouble the forum is to maintain, how it
takes three volunteers working daily just to stay ahead of the spam, robots
and viruses.
>
> This situation perfectly illustrated why a public forum is not a proper
tool for membership recruiting.
>
> It becomes total anarchy when Murumba comes back into the cave carrying
fire.
>
> Michael
>
> On Apr 19, 2016 9:56 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Larry and Bill and Dan and Barry,
>>
>>
>>               Well said, sirs.
>>
>>
>>                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Larry -
Ohio
>> Time
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:15 PM
>> To: SOBill at aol.com; michaelsavga at gmail.com
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
>>
>> My friend Bill (aka SOB),
>>
>> I am here more for the social aspect of people then cars. I have grown to
>> call you all my friends. This is something that dose not happen on a
forum
>> very often, or if it does it is with a very few people.
>>
>> I have opened my home and my heart to every one of you who as passed by
>> Cleveland in the last 16 years. This has not happened to anyone I know
from
>> a non email forum. Yes I am on a few.
>>
>> It will be a very very sad day for me when I stop getting yours and
everyone
>> else's emails.
>>
>> Quoting a great man "Now you have my not so humble opinion."
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of SOBill via
>> DeTomaso
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:44 PM
>> To: michaelsavga at gmail.com
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I know I am old, but not too old for change.
>>
>> The PI Forum model works like this:
>> A mail man puts all the new mail in a wall of pigeon holes according  to
>> topic.
>> You look at the wall of pigeon holes and wonder "What's new." Hmmm, no
clue.
>> You look thru 40 pigeon holes to see if something interesting had been
>> entered.
>>
>> Better to be able to look down a list of subjects (like the current
forum)
>> and read only the topics of interest. Maybe such a list could be added as
>> the entry point to the new forum.
>>
>> Now you have my not so humble opinion.
>>
>> Bill Taylor
>>
>> The main  thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
>> Do the best you can with what  your have where you are.
>> Have fun today!
>> SOBill
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/19/2016 10:36:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> This  email forum currently uses the poca.com domain or URL.
>>
>> The new website  will be taking it over in the next few weeks and the
forum
>> is  not
>>
>> compatible with the servers at our new host.
>>
>> We are going to  archive all the forum emails and eventually place them
in a
>> searchable  database on the new website.
>>
>> The new website will have a far superior  forum system, like PI Forum,
>> except much better.
>>
>> It will have over  40 topics.
>>
>> Every Chapter willl have their own private forum as well. (  only Chapter
>> members can see or post in those )
>>
>> The BOD has two  choices,
>>
>> 1) allow this forum to be adopted by somebody who will foster  it ( there
>> are some conditions, regarding privacy issues since  all the email
addresses
>> are in the archives.)
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) Let it  die.
>>
>> There are no other options.
>>
>> If anybody out there wants to  take it over, please contact me ASAP.
>>
>> You must provide a hosting  solution and you will be the one fighting
>> hackers and spammers 24./7.   It is no picnic.
>>
>> the new website has amazing security and all these  constant problems of
>> people being kicked off will be a faded  memory.
>>
>> I know it is not a popular decision, but one that can not be  avoided.
>>
>> If you love it, step up and own it.
>>
>> Michael  Shortt
>> President
>> POCA
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael  L. Shortt
>> Savannah,  Georgia
>> www.michaelshortt.com
>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>> 912-232-9390
>>
>>
>> This  email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18
>> U.S.C.  Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged.
If
>> you  are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
>> retention,  dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication
is
>> strictly  prohibited.  Please reply to the sender that you have received
>> this  message in error, then delete it.  Thank you
>>
>>
>> This  email forum currently uses the [1]poca.com domain or URL.
>> The  new website will be taking it over in the next few weeks and  the
forum
>> is not compatible with the servers at our  new host.
>> We are going to archive all the forum emails and  eventually place them
in a
>> searchable database on the new  website.
>> The new website will have a far superior forum  system, like PI Forum,
>> except much better.
>> It  will have over 40 topics.
>> Every Chapter willl have their own  private forum as well. ( only Chapter
>> members can see or post  in those ) The BOD has two choices,
>> 1) allow  this forum to be adopted by somebody who will foster itA A  A (
>> there are some conditions, regarding privacy issues since  all the email
>> addresses are in the archives.) or
>> 2) Let it die.
>> There are no other  options.
>> If anybody out there wants to take it over, please  contact me ASAP.
>> You must provide a hosting solution and you  will be the one fighting
>> hackers and spammers 24./7.A  It  is no picnic.
>> the new website has amazing security and all  these constant problems of
>> people being kicked off will be a  faded memory.
>> I know it is not a popular decision, but one  that can not be avoided.
>> If you love it, step up and own  it.
>> Michael Shortt
>> President
>> POCA
>> --
>> Michael L. Shortt
>> Savannah, Georgia
>> [2]www.michaelshortt.com
>> [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
>> 912-232-9390
>> A
>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications  Privacy Act, 18
>> U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may  be legally privileged.A
If
>> you are not the intended  recipient, you are hereby notified that any
>> retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication
is
>> strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the sender  that you have received
>> this message in error,  then delete it.A  Thank you
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1.  http://poca.com/
>> 2.  http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>> 3.  mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>
>>
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   > You can still get it, somebody else is going to manage it.
   >
   > That was the entire purpose of the original email - to find that
   person.
   >
   > Not to become a complainfest.
   >
   > It was stated at the forefront, the new servers for the new website
   will not support the email forum. It is not a decision to not do it, it
   was decided for us.
   >
   > None of you have a clue how much trouble the forum is to maintain,
   how it takes three volunteers working daily just to stay ahead of the
   spam, robots and viruses.
   >
   > This situation perfectly illustrated why a public forum is not a
   proper tool for membership recruiting.
   >
   > It becomes total anarchy when Murumba comes back into the cave
   carrying fire.
   >
   > Michael
   >
   > On Apr 19, 2016 9:56 PM, "Charles Engles" <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >>
   >> Dear Larry and Bill and Dan and Barry,
   >>
   >>
   >> A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Well said, sirs.
   >>
   >>
   >> A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Larry - Ohio
   >> Time
   >> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:15 PM
   >> To: [3]SOBill at aol.com; [4]michaelsavga at gmail.com
   >> Cc: [5]detomaso at poca.com
   >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
   >>
   >> My friend Bill (aka SOB),
   >>
   >> I am here more for the social aspect of people then cars. I have
   grown to
   >> call you all my friends. This is something that dose not happen on a
   forum
   >> very often, or if it does it is with a very few people.
   >>
   >> I have opened my home and my heart to every one of you who as passed
   by
   >> Cleveland in the last 16 years. This has not happened to anyone I
   know from
   >> a non email forum. Yes I am on a few.
   >>
   >> It will be a very very sad day for me when I stop getting yours and
   everyone
   >> else's emails.
   >>
   >> Quoting a great man "Now you have my not so humble opinion."
   >>
   >> Larry - Cleveland
   >>
   >>
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   SOBill via
   >> DeTomaso
   >> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:44 PM
   >> To: [7]michaelsavga at gmail.com
   >> Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com
   >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Email Forum Opportunity
   >>
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> I know I am old, but not too old for change.
   >>
   >> The PI Forum model works like this:
   >> A mail man puts all the new mail in a wall of pigeon holes
   accordingA  to
   >> topic.
   >> You look at the wall of pigeon holes and wonder "What's new." Hmmm,
   no clue.
   >> You look thru 40 pigeon holes to see if something interesting had
   been
   >> entered.
   >>
   >> Better to be able to look down a list of subjects (like the current
   forum)
   >> and read only the topics of interest. Maybe such a list could be
   added as
   >> the entry point to the new forum.
   >>
   >> Now you have my not so humble opinion.
   >>
   >> Bill Taylor
   >>
   >> The mainA  thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
   >> Do the best you can with whatA  your have where you are.
   >> Have fun today!
   >> SOBill
   >>
   >>
   >> In a message dated 4/19/2016 10:36:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
   >> [9]michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:
   >>
   >> ThisA  email forum currently uses the [10]poca.com domain or URL.
   >>
   >> The new websiteA  will be taking it over in the next few weeks and
   the forum
   >> isA  not
   >>
   >> compatible with the servers at our new host.
   >>
   >> We are going toA  archive all the forum emails and eventually place
   them in a
   >> searchableA  database on the new website.
   >>
   >> The new website will have a far superiorA  forum system, like PI
   Forum,
   >> except much better.
   >>
   >> It will have overA  40 topics.
   >>
   >> Every Chapter willl have their own private forum as well. (A  only
   Chapter
   >> members can see or post in those )
   >>
   >> The BOD has twoA  choices,
   >>
   >> 1) allow this forum to be adopted by somebody who will fosterA  it (
   there
   >> are some conditions, regarding privacy issues sinceA  all the email
   addresses
   >> are in the archives.)
   >>
   >> or
   >>
   >> 2) Let itA  die.
   >>
   >> There are no other options.
   >>
   >> If anybody out there wants toA  take it over, please contact me
   ASAP.
   >>
   >> You must provide a hostingA  solution and you will be the one
   fighting
   >> hackers and spammers 24./7.A  A It is no picnic.
   >>
   >> the new website has amazing security and all theseA  constant
   problems of
   >> people being kicked off will be a fadedA  memory.
   >>
   >> I know it is not a popular decision, but one that can not beA
   avoided.
   >>
   >> If you love it, step up and own it.
   >>
   >> MichaelA  Shortt
   >> President
   >> POCA
   >>
   >> --
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> MichaelA  L. Shortt
   >> Savannah,A  Georgia
   >> [11]www.michaelshortt.com
   >> [12]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >> 912-232-9390
   >>
   >>
   >> ThisA  email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
   Act, 18
   >> U.S.C.A  Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
   privileged.A  If
   >> youA  are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
   any
   >> retention,A  dissemination, distribution or copying of this
   communication is
   >> strictlyA  prohibited.A  Please reply to the sender that you have
   received
   >> thisA  message in error, then delete it.A  Thank you
   >>
   >>
   >> ThisA  email forum currently uses the [1][13]poca.com domain or URL.
   >> TheA  new website will be taking it over in the next few weeks andA
   the forum
   >> is not compatible with the servers at ourA  new host.
   >> We are going to archive all the forum emails andA  eventually place
   them in a
   >> searchable database on the newA  website.
   >> The new website will have a far superior forumA  system, like PI
   Forum,
   >> except much better.
   >> ItA  will have over 40 topics.
   >> Every Chapter willl have their ownA  private forum as well. ( only
   Chapter
   >> members can see or postA  in those ) The BOD has two choices,
   >> 1) allowA  this forum to be adopted by somebody who will foster itA
   AA  A (
   >> there are some conditions, regarding privacy issues sinceA  all the
   email
   >> addresses are in the archives.) or
   >> 2) Let it die.
   >> There are no otherA  options.
   >> If anybody out there wants to take it over, pleaseA  contact me
   ASAP.
   >> You must provide a hosting solution and youA  will be the one
   fighting
   >> hackers and spammers 24./7.AA  ItA  is no picnic.
   >> the new website has amazing security and allA  these constant
   problems of
   >> people being kicked off will be aA  faded memory.
   >> I know it is not a popular decision, but oneA  that can not be
   avoided.
   >> If you love it, step up and ownA  it.
   >> Michael Shortt
   >> President
   >> POCA
   >> --
   >> Michael L. Shortt
   >> Savannah, Georgia
   >> [2][14]www.michaelshortt.com
   >> [3][15]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >> 912-232-9390
   >> A
   >> This email is protected by the Electronic CommunicationsA  Privacy
   Act, 18
   >> U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and mayA  be legally
   privileged.AA  If
   >> you are not the intendedA  recipient, you are hereby notified that
   any
   >> retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
   communication is
   >> strictly prohibited.AA  Please reply to the senderA  that you have
   received
   >> this message in error,A  then delete it.AA  Thank you
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >> 1.A  [16]http://poca.com/
   >> 2.A  [17]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
   >> 3.A  mailto:[18]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >>
   >>
   >> _______________________________________________
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References

   1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   3. mailto:SOBill at aol.com
   4. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   7. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
   8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   9. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
  10. http://poca.com/
  11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
  12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  13. http://poca.com/
  14. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
  15. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  16. http://poca.com/
  17. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
  18. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


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