[DeTomaso] Nudge: Pedal Stop Bracket on an early '71

Rob Dumoulin rob at dumoulins.net
Wed Apr 13 12:08:09 EDT 2016


Thanks Jeff,  I did notice a slight (about 1/2 inch) difference between my
clutch and brake pedals with the brake being a wee bit higher than the
clutch. With it adjusted the way it is right now, that 1/2 inch depressed
would start to engage the brakes which would make me need to readjust the
plunger from the booster.  Not a big deal, but I don't want to do it if I
don't have to.

Will the pedals drop significantly as the brakes wear?   Still looking for
a down side mechanically.  The pedal feels right as it is now but it's
still all fresh..

Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, <jgkrenton at comcast.net> wrote:

> Rob:
>
> My late 71 mfg (sharp cornered bumpers 72 model year) has the same
> bracket.  This is a wild guess but I think it serves two purposes, one is
> to eliminate the slack between the pedal and the mechanism in booster,
> there is a little. (and I believe the booster rod might come out if you
> pull hard enough, it's been a while since I had mine out.)  The other
> purpose is to make sure the brake pedal and the clutch pedal up-stops are
> at the same height.
>
> Since there are supposed to be pull-up springs on both pedals, (the
> hair-springs which always seem to be broken) something must be used to
> restrict the pedals upward travel.  Due to their different mechanisms, the
> amount of slack will be different and can result in different heights when
> no pressure is on the pedal.
>
> The clutch pedal should pull hard against the snap-ring retained pushrod
> in the clutch master cylinder, but I think the booster mechanism is
> different and needs the additional stop point to manage the play.
>
> Others may have different ideas.
>
> Jeff / 2467
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net>
> *To: *"Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:50:15 AM
> *Subject: *[DeTomaso] Nudge: Pedal Stop Bracket on an early '71
>
>
> Somebody must know the factory purpose of this brake pedal stop bracket.
>
> Anybody?
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
> > Many months ago when I was prepping for paint, I removed the clutch and
> > brake master cylinders along with an adjustable pedal stop bracket under
> > the dash that would limit how far a pedals come up.  I believe it was on
> > the brake pedal.
> >
> > When I installed the new Willwood MC and bled the brakes this past
> > weekend, I did not see a need for the pedal bracket. The plunger between
> > the MC and Booster are set perfectly at least right now.
> >
> > What purpose does it serve?  Is it to allow you to adjust slop out of the
> > pedal without having to adjust the plunger between the MC and Booster?
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use
> the links above.
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
   Thanks Jeff, A I did notice a slight (about 1/2 inch) difference
   between my clutch and brake pedals with the brake being a wee bit
   higher than the clutch. With it adjusted the way it is right now, that
   1/2 inch depressed would start to engage the brakes which would make me
   need to readjust the plunger from the booster.A  Not a big deal, but I
   don't want to do it if I don't have to.
   Will the pedals drop significantly as the brakes wear? A  Still looking
   for a down side mechanically.A  The pedal feels right as it is now but
   it's still all fresh..

   Rob DuMoulin
   904.476.8744
   [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   [2]www.kbsi.co
   [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, <[4]jgkrenton at comcast.net> wrote:

   Rob:
   My late 71 mfg (sharp cornered bumpers 72 model year) has the same
   bracket.A  This is a wild guess but I think it serves two purposes, one
   is to eliminate the slack between the pedal and the mechanism in
   booster, there is a little. (and I believe the booster rod might come
   out if you pull hard enough, it's been a while since I had mine out.)
   A The other purpose is to make sure the brake pedal and the clutch
   pedal up-stops are at the same height.
   Since there are supposed to be pull-up springs on both pedals, (the
   hair-springs which always seem to be broken) something must be used to
   restrict the pedals upward travel.A  Due to their different mechanisms,
   the amount of slack will be different and can result in different
   heights when no pressure is on the pedal.
   The clutch pedal should pull hard against the snap-ring retained
   pushrod in the clutch master cylinder, but I think the booster
   mechanism is different and needs the additional stop point to manage
   the play.A
   Others may have different ideas.
   Jeff / 2467
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: "Rob Dumoulin" <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>
   To: "Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List" <[6]DeTomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:50:15 AM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Nudge: Pedal Stop Bracket on an early '71
   Somebody must know the factory purpose of this brake pedal stop
   bracket.
   Anybody?
   Rob
   On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[7]rob at dumoulins.net>
   wrote:
   > Many months ago when I was prepping for paint, I removed the clutch
   and
   > brake master cylinders along with an adjustable pedal stop bracket
   under
   > the dash that would limit how far a pedals come up.A  I believe it
   was on
   > the brake pedal.
   >
   > When I installed the new Willwood MC and bled the brakes this past
   > weekend, I did not see a need for the pedal bracket. The plunger
   between
   > the MC and Booster are set perfectly at least right now.
   >
   > What purpose does it serve?A  Is it to allow you to adjust slop out
   of the
   > pedal without having to adjust the plunger between the MC and
   Booster?
   >
   >
   > Rob
   >
   _______________________________________________
   Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   DeTomaso mailing list
   [8]DeTomaso at poca.com
   [9]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
   use the links above.

References

   1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   2. http://www.kbsi.co/
   3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   4. mailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net
   5. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


More information about the DeTomaso mailing list