[DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

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Sat Apr 9 20:15:13 EDT 2016 

Adding to that, high-pressure gas-charged Konis add 30 lbs of 'spring' pressure to each assembly. Thats what I run, too. 
J DeRyke

 


Just my two cents worth for the group. Scott set me up with the selective shock system and I absolutely love it.
I believe the front springs were 250# and the tears 400#
David Finley
3659

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David <david at msmcontractors.org>
To: Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2016 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

Just my two cents worth for the group. Scott set me up with the selective shock system and I absolutely love it.
I believe the front springs were 250# and the tears 400#
David Finley
3659

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
> 
>   Yes GD, that would indeed work. But, the way to do it is to reduce the
>   extension with an external limiting device like a bump stop or a
>   limiting strap. Limiting straps are very comment in the off-road area.
> 
> 
>   However, this is a band-air to the real problem of the shock being too
>   long. When I say too long, I am talking about a very small amount.
>   About an inch or so.
> 
> 
>   By the way, If the shock were to become fully extended and hit its
>   internal stops, it isn't really an issue for modern shocks as they are
>   design for such things. It also isn't common for the car to become
>   un-weighted for so long that you are going to extend the shock 100%. If
>   that is happening a lot you need adjustable shocks were you can adjust
>   the rebound dampening to prevent such occurrences.
> 
> 
>   Again, this problem ONLY occurs when trying to lower the car a great
>   deal while maintaining a high spring rate. The solution is NOT a
>   shorter spring. The solution is a shorter shock (a small amount) or a
>   limiting device to prevent the suspension to become extended to the
>   point that the spring is loose between the perches.
> 
> 
>   Scott
> 
> 
>   From: Guido deTomaso [mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
>   Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 6:34 PM
>   To: Scott Bell; detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Reduce the extension of the shock, assuming you can open it up and put
>   in a spacer of some sort?  So the shorter spring doesn't come loose.
> 
> 
>   GD
> 
>   _______________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: Scott Bell <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net>
>   To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:48 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
> 
>   Because the spring becomes loose between the perches when the car is
>   un-weighted (like going over a hills peak or a speed bump)...
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>   Forest Goodhart
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:22 PM
>   To: De Tomaso List
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
>   Why not a shorter spring of the same rate?
>         From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>   To: De Tomaso List <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:25 PM
>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
> 
>       Has anyone done an analysis of the viability of running a bit
>   shorter
>     front shocks?  With the typical length front shocks, and springs on
>   the
>     heavy side, it appears that the nose is a bit higher than I want at
>   the
>     lowest spring position.  I could probably use lighter springs
>   adjusted
>     for the desired height, but I'm not sure that is a good solution.
>     Ken
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   Adding to that, high-pressure gas-charged Konis add 30 lbs of 'spring'
   pressure to each assembly. Thats what I run, too.
   J DeRyke

     Just my two cents worth for the group. Scott set me up with the
     selective shock system and I absolutely love it.
     I believe the front springs were 250# and the tears 400#
     David Finley
     3659

   -----Original Message-----
   From: David <david at msmcontractors.org>
   To: Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2016 2:13 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
   Just my two cents worth for the group. Scott set me up with the
   selective shock system and I absolutely love it.
   I believe the front springs were 250# and the tears 400#
   David Finley
   3659
   > On Apr 9, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Scott Bell
   <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
   >
   > Yes GD, that would indeed work. But, the way to do it is to reduce
   the
   > extension with an external limiting device like a bump stop or a
   > limiting strap. Limiting straps are very comment in the off-road
   area.
   >
   >
   > However, this is a band-air to the real problem of the shock being
   too
   > long. When I say too long, I am talking about a very small amount.
   > About an inch or so.
   >
   >
   > By the way, If the shock were to become fully extended and hit its
   > internal stops, it isn't really an issue for modern shocks as they
   are
   > design for such things. It also isn't common for the car to become
   > un-weighted for so long that you are going to extend the shock 100%.
   If
   > that is happening a lot you need adjustable shocks were you can
   adjust
   > the rebound dampening to prevent such occurrences.
   >
   >
   > Again, this problem ONLY occurs when trying to lower the car a great
   > deal while maintaining a high spring rate. The solution is NOT a
   > shorter spring. The solution is a shorter shock (a small amount) or a
   > limiting device to prevent the suspension to become extended to the
   > point that the spring is loose between the perches.
   >
   >
   > Scott
   >
   >
   > From: Guido deTomaso [[2]mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
   > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 6:34 PM
   > To: Scott Bell; [3]detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Reduce the extension of the shock, assuming you can open it up and
   put
   > in a spacer of some sort? So the shorter spring doesn't come loose.
   >
   >
   > GD
   >
   >
   _______________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: Scott Bell <[1][4]scott at saccrestorations.net>
   > To: [2][5]detomaso at poca.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:48 PM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
   >
   > Because the spring becomes loose between the perches when the car is
   > un-weighted (like going over a hills peak or a speed bump)...
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   > Forest Goodhart
   > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:22 PM
   > To: De Tomaso List
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
   > Why not a shorter spring of the same rate?
   > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[4][7]detomaso at poca.com>
   > To: De Tomaso List <[5][8]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:25 PM
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
   >
   > Has anyone done an analysis of the viability of running a bit
   > shorter
   > front shocks? With the typical length front shocks, and springs on
   > the
   > heavy side, it appears that the nose is a bit higher than I want at
   > the
   > lowest spring position. I could probably use lighter springs
   > adjusted
   > for the desired height, but I'm not sure that is a good solution.
   > Ken
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