[DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

[Scott Bell]

Yes, we have calculators that do all the hard work for you!

If there is one thing to know that makes shock selection very easy it is the SHOCK RIDE HEIGHT. Not to be confused with the body ride height.

The easy way to get this number is to take the shock off and hold the vehicle at the ride height desired with a floor jack, then measure the distance between shock mounting bolts. If you have that measurement, the rest is EASY...

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 2:17 PM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

Oooh... I see what you mean. Attached illustration 
When lowering the weight is supported by the shock going full compressed and thus can't go any lower
The compressed shock length for the minimum ride height should not be that hard to determine


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bell
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 13:36 PM
To: 'Guido deTomaso'; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

Yes GD, that would indeed work. But, the way to do it is to reduce the extension with an external limiting device like a bump stop or a limiting strap. Limiting straps are very comment in the off-road area.
 
However, this is a band-air to the real problem of the shock being too long. When I say too long, I am talking about a very small amount. About an inch or so. 
 
By the way, If the shock were to become fully extended and hit its internal stops, it isn’t really an issue for modern shocks as they are design for such things. It also isn’t common for the car to become un-weighted for so long that you are going to extend the shock 100%. If that is happening a lot you need adjustable shocks were you can adjust the rebound dampening to prevent such occurrences.
 
Again, this problem ONLY occurs when trying to lower the car a great deal while maintaining a high spring rate. The solution is NOT a shorter spring. The solution is a shorter shock (a small amount) or a limiting device to prevent the suspension to become extended to the point that the spring is loose between the perches.
 
Scott
 
From: Guido deTomaso [mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 6:34 PM
To: Scott Bell; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
 
 
 
Reduce the extension of the shock, assuming you can open it up and put in a spacer of some sort?  So the shorter spring doesn't come loose.
 
GD
 
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From: Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

Because the spring becomes loose between the perches when the car is un-weighted (like going over a hills peak or a speed bump)...

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Forest Goodhart
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:22 PM
To: De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?

Why not a shorter spring of the same rate?

      From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:25 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Shorter front shocks?
  
    Has anyone done an analysis of the viability of running a bit shorter
  front shocks?  With the typical length front shocks, and springs on the
  heavy side, it appears that the nose is a bit higher than I want at the
  lowest spring position.  I could probably use lighter springs adjusted
  for the desired height, but I'm not sure that is a good solution.
  Ken

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