[DeTomaso] Pantera and 351C mechanical fuel pumps
cengles at cox.net
cengles at cox.net
Thu Apr 7 13:18:40 EDT 2016
Dear Rob,
No. It has outlets threaded for 1/4" pipe thread.
That permits use of an AN adaptor for 1/4" pipe thread to your choice of
AN 6 or AN 8 or ? sized fitting.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
Thanks for the info Chuck. Did you say that this pump has AN fittings
on both connectors?
Rob DuMoulin
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:03 AM, < cengles at cox.net
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Dear Forum,
A bit more news for those eager for the up to the
minute developments in maintaining a 351C original type fuel system.
One of the bigger and American Ebay vendors for the
Taiwan hipo 351C fuel pump is a real business in Kingsport,
Tennessee:
White Racing Engines. They have a real phone number and real people
answer. I called today for due diligence and spoke with Al.
He tells me that indeed the Ebay hipo Cleveland
fuel
pump used to be the Holley hipo fuel pump, which explains the
similarity of the two. He tells me that it is indeed made in China
or
Taiwan, but he doesn't know which one. He tells me that he cannot
say
for sure that it is the same company that made them for Holley or if
the company simply bought the Holley manufacturing stuff and began
production. He says that they first used them on their Chevy engines
and they have been good quality.
So.....it is probably worth a try if you need a
mechanical fuel pump with more capacity than the stock style Carter
pump. The price is $25 plus $8 shipping. I took the plunge and
bought
one.
For what it is worth, Chuck Engles
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Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:43:46 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera and 351C mechanical fuel pumps
Dear Forum,
Last year there were no 351C fuel pumps
other
than
the bare bones humble Carter stock units. Holley had quit making
their
hipo
unit. Summit, Jeg's and others did not sell them. I don't think
that I
could find one on a Google search. Jack DeRyke has written in the
newsletter that the list of Cleveland parts that are no longer
available
included: mechanical fuel pumps.
Things seem to have changed. I am
currently
building another engine and I was looking for a mechanical unit that
was
less than the full tilt $200 McPerformance pump that I bought for the
last
engine. This engine's power is notably less and unit more than stock
and
less than full tilt was ideal.
The usual searches showed nothing other than
the
Carter unit and a "Spectre" Chinese knock off.
Through the miracle of Google I found two
noteworthy items:
1) Jeg's now stocks a hipo fuel pump made, their tech line
believes
,in Taiwan or China. It bears a remarkable similarity to what I
recall of
the Holley hipo unit. Jeg's unit is about $46 and has a year's
warranty and
can be returned if they actually sell you a Windsor unit. Their
website
does picture a *Windsor* pump and they said that the picture of the
Windsor
pump is only "representative". If you order and it ain't a
Cleveland
then
you can return it at their cost and get a refund---they said.
Jegs part number 707-R2306
2) Ebay has about a dozen vendors of essentially the same pump
showing the same picture of either the Windsor or Cleveland pump.
The
prices range from $31 to $55. Warranties are unknown.
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EL-PUMP-
8PSI-140GPH-1009-C-/222067607020?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
3) The Carter unit is $20 at Summit and Jeg's
So, the exact quality is uncertain, but there
are
more
choices than the $20 Carter or the $200 McPerformance units.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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Dear Rob,
No. It has outlets threaded for 1/4" pipe thread.
That permits use of an AN adaptor for 1/4" pipe thread to your choice
of AN 6 or AN 8 or ? sized fitting.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
Thanks for the info Chuck. Did you say that this pump has AN fittings
on both connectors?
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1]rob at dumoulins.net[2]www.kbsi.co
[3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:03 AM, < [4]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
A A Dear Forum,
A A A A A A A A A A A A bit more news for those eager for the
up to the
A A minute developments in maintaining a 351C original type fuel
system.
A A A A A A A A A A A One of the bigger and American Ebay
vendors for the
A A Taiwan hipo 351C fuel pump is a real business in Kingsport,
Tennessee:
A A White Racing Engines.A A They have a real phone number and real
people
A A answer.A I called today for due diligence and spoke with Al.
A A A A A A A A A A A He tells me that indeed the Ebay hipo
Cleveland fuel
A A pump used to be the Holley hipo fuel pump, which explains the
A A similarity of the two.A He tells me that it is indeed made in
China or
A A Taiwan, but he doesn't know which one.A He tells me that he
cannot say
A A for sure that it is the same company that made them for Holley or
if
A A the company simply bought the Holley manufacturing stuff and began
A A production.A He says that they first used them on their Chevy
engines
A A and they have been good quality.
A A A A A A A A A A A So.....it is probably worth a try if
you need a
A A mechanical fuel pump with more capacity than the stock style
Carter
A A pump.A The price is $25 plus $8 shipping.A I took the plunge and
bought
A A one.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A For what it is
worth,A Chuck Engles
A A A ___________________________
A A From: "Charles Engles" < [1] [5]cengles at cox.net>
A A To: [2] [6]detomaso at poca.com
A A Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:43:46 PM
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera and 351C mechanical fuel pumps
A A Dear Forum,
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Last year there were no 351C
fuel pumps other
A A than
A A the bare bones humble Carter stock units.A Holley had quit making
their
A A hipo
A A unit.A A Summit, Jeg's and others did not sell them.A A I don't
think
A A that I
A A could find one on a Google search.A A Jack DeRyke has written in
the
A A newsletter that the list of Cleveland parts that are no longer
A A available
A A included: mechanical fuel pumps.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Things seem to have
changed.A A I am
A A currently
A A building another engine and I was looking for a mechanical unit
that
A A was
A A less than the full tilt $200 McPerformance pump that I bought for
the
A A last
A A engine.A This engine's power is notably less and unit more than
stock
A A and
A A less than full tilt was ideal.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A The usual searches showed
nothing other than
A A the
A A Carter unit and a "Spectre" Chinese knock off.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Through the miracle of
Google I found two
A A noteworthy items:
A A 1)A A A A Jeg's now stocks a hipo fuel pump made, their tech
line
A A believes
A A ,in Taiwan or China.A A It bears a remarkable similarity to what
I
A A recall of
A A the Holley hipo unit.A Jeg's unit is about $46 and has a year's
A A warranty and
A A can be returned if they actually sell you a Windsor unit.A Their
A A website
A A does picture a *Windsor* pump and they said that the picture of
the
A A Windsor
A A pump is only "representative".A If you order and it ain'tA a
Cleveland
A A then
A A you can return it at their cost and get a refund---they said.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Jegs
part number 707-R2306
A A 2)A A A A Ebay has about a dozen vendors of essentially the
same pump
A A showing the same picture of either the Windsor or Cleveland
pump.A The
A A prices range from $31 to $55.A A Warranties are unknown.
A A [3]
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A A EL-PUMP-
A A 8PSI-140GPH-1009-C-/222067607020?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
A A 3)A A A The Carter unit is $20 at Summit and Jeg's
A A A A A A A A A A A A So, the exact quality is uncertain,
but there are
A A more
A A choices than the $20 Carter or the $200 McPerformance units.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest
regards,A Chuck Engles
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