[DeTomaso] Pantera and 351C mechanical fuel pumps

Thu Apr 7 10:18:11 EDT 2016

To all: Dumb question - what does the “hipo” thing mean? Add another “p” and you get a big animal in water.
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 7:03 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
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>    Dear Forum,
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>                     A bit more news for those eager for the up to the
>   minute developments in maintaining a 351C original type fuel system.
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>                     One of the bigger and American Ebay vendors for the
>   Taiwan hipo 351C fuel pump is a real business in Kingsport, Tennessee:
>   White Racing Engines.   They have a real phone number and real people
>   answer.  I called today for due diligence and spoke with Al.
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>                     He tells me that indeed the Ebay hipo Cleveland fuel
>   pump used to be the Holley hipo fuel pump, which explains the
>   similarity of the two.  He tells me that it is indeed made in China or
>   Taiwan, but he doesn't know which one.  He tells me that he cannot say
>   for sure that it is the same company that made them for Holley or if
>   the company simply bought the Holley manufacturing stuff and began
>   production.  He says that they first used them on their Chevy engines
>   and they have been good quality.
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>                     So.....it is probably worth a try if you need a
>   mechanical fuel pump with more capacity than the stock style Carter
>   pump.  The price is $25 plus $8 shipping.  I took the plunge and bought
>   one.
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>                                  For what it is worth,  Chuck Engles
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>   From: "Charles Engles" < [1]cengles at cox.net>
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>   To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
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>   Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:43:46 PM
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>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera and 351C mechanical fuel pumps
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>   Dear Forum,
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>                            Last year there were no 351C fuel pumps other
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>   the bare bones humble Carter stock units.  Holley had quit making their
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>   unit.   Summit, Jeg's and others did not sell them.   I don't think
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>   could find one on a Google search.   Jack DeRyke has written in the
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>   newsletter that the list of Cleveland parts that are no longer
>   available
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>                              Things seem to have changed.   I am
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>   building another engine and I was looking for a mechanical unit that
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>   less than the full tilt $200 McPerformance pump that I bought for the
>   last
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>   engine.  This engine's power is notably less and unit more than stock
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>   less than full tilt was ideal.
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>                           The usual searches showed nothing other than
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>   Carter unit and a "Spectre" Chinese knock off.
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>                             Through the miracle of Google I found two
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>   1)       Jeg's now stocks a hipo fuel pump made, their tech line
>   believes
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>   ,in Taiwan or China.   It bears a remarkable similarity to what I
>   recall of
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>   the Holley hipo unit.  Jeg's unit is about $46 and has a year's
>   warranty and
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>   can be returned if they actually sell you a Windsor unit.  Their
>   website
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>   does picture a *Windsor* pump and they said that the picture of the
>   Windsor
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>   pump is only "representative".  If you order and it ain't  a Cleveland
>   then
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>   you can return it at their cost and get a refund---they said.
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>                                          Jegs part number 707-R2306
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>   2)        Ebay has about a dozen vendors of essentially the same pump
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>   showing the same picture of either the Windsor or Cleveland pump.  The
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>   prices range from $31 to $55.   Warranties are unknown.
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>   [3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-351C-351M-400-HIGH-VOLUME-MECHANICAL-FU
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>   8PSI-140GPH-1009-C-/222067607020?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
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>   3)      The Carter unit is $20 at Summit and Jeg's
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>                        So, the exact quality is uncertain, but there are
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>                                        Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
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