[DeTomaso] Vegas track time
LSJ
lashdeep at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 5 11:59:00 EDT 2016
How difficult is it to run a "quick" time?
I've watched stock appearing CTS-Vs doing pretty good times on YouTube.
What are the tiers? Is 3:41 the threshold of "Fast"?
LSJ
central wines-spirits est 1934
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washington, dc 20004
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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>; LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
I didn't get Bob's response I think the list server is still acting up.
I ran Virginia City Hillclimb in 2009, been meaning to run again but always seemed to be out of town, maybe this year will be the year now I'm retired (well that's what they called it when they laid me off last October!).
I ran it in the Ultima and had a few teething problems wit the cable shifter, plus they wouldn't let me run slicks my first year running. I ran a respectable 3:43, if I recall the best overall run of the weekend was 3:26, but the big hurdle is to get below 3:41 as the highway used is HWY 341. The challenge is they won't tell you your run times until the Sunday evening banquet.
All the Ferrari folks were a bit put out as the red Ultima attracted way more attention than the other red cars! Folks were waiting with helmets in hand trying to bum rides up the hill. One girl probably regretted that when her driver put his brand new Z06 over the edge, luckily he went straight down the Canyon and didn't roll, but still totaled the car. Another Ferrari F355 challenge car ended up upside down on fire after a rear tire blew out, fortunately the driver was fully kitted out and only received minor burns. I decided an open car with minimal roll over protection was not the ideal vehicle to be pushing it any harder, but it sure is a fun event.
Julian
> If one were to go through the hassle of towing a car out west, it would
> seem that the VA City Hillclimb and Silver State would be two events to
> do together?
> Any thoughts on the Silver State?
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [1]centralwines.com
> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Bob <rcbsons1 at aol.com <javascript:;>>
> To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>" <detomaso at poca.com
> <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> Virginia City Hillclimb
> Ferrari and Shelby club event
> First day is practice... Roughly 5-7 runs up the hill. Second day is
> the timed runs. 4-5 runs
> The goal is to be under 4 minutes
> Record is by the former owner of Spector air cleaners in an F40
> Really cool guy that I have talked to several times. He was. 3 min 8
> seconds I believe
> 5.1 miles approx 22 turns and going up over 1000 feet in elevation
> Speeds up to 125 mph no guard rails
> and big drop offs Very challenging and kind of like having your car
> on a 4 minute dyno
> Very dangerous as they have killed many on the hill They say it takes
> about 4 years of running it to really learn the road
> In an old mining town that has cool saloons where everyone dresses up
> like cowboys and wears real guns
> Again my favorite event Sort of a mini Pikes Peak. I have only done it
> once as too many other things going on but am going to try again this
> year as I am not getting any younger
> Very close to Reno Nevada and near our buddy Julian. He posted a U
> tube video of me taking off Go to u tube and Virginia city Hillclimb
> Pantera. It should come up
> Bob Benson
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:58 PM, LSJ <[3]lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> It seems like the event gives you a lot of interesting seat time which
> is important for the time/$$$ outlay.
> I also like the mix of driving events between the AX and open track.
> Tell us about the Virginia City Hillclimb also please.
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [4]centralwines.com
> [5]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Bob <[6]rcbsons1 at aol.com <javascript:;>>
> To: LSJ <[7]lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "[8]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>" <[9]detomaso at poca.com
> <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> Very well run event. Long day on Saturday. Great people and really
> tough completion. Many purpose built cars. I was thinking of running
> in Vegas but trying to get my other car (firebird ) ready for the
> season
> A well prepped Pantera could do well
> Tires are a key. You need the best 200 rated tires which are really
> like a Dot road race tire. Brakes are critical for the stop box. My
> Pantera was 12 th in that sector 3 years back at the Sema final
> Will be to another soon.
> Second best event I have done
> Virginia City Hillclimb is the best ever
> Bob
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 5:27 PM, LSJ <[10]lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> Bob, tell us more about your Optima Street car event experiences.
> I've been trying to convince Ron that we need to build something for
> that event.
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [11]centralwines.com
> [12]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: bens1 via DeTomaso <[13]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>>
> To: [14]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:16 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> If you really want to run your car in Vegas you can enter the
> Optima Ultimate Street car qualifier.. it is April 15-17
> For $750 you can run as many stop boxes you can on
> half of Saturday -15-20 if you hurry.. then go over to the autocross
> track and run that for another 15-20 times.. go on a cruise that
> evening to show the car is street worthy .. then on Sunday run the
> track in 3-4 sessions... lots of time to beat on that Pantera
> testing brakes, clutch and tires to the limit
> And my comment on the proper use of the back screen is
> to run your 4" straight 180 headers thru it.. then there will
> be a lot of flow going outward only... trust me:)
> Bob Benson
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How difficult is it to run a "quick" time?
I've watched stock appearing CTS-Vs doing pretty good times on YouTube.
What are the tiers? Is 3:41 the threshold of "Fast"?
LSJ
central
wines-spirits est 1934
625 e street nw
washington, dc 20004
[1]centralwines.com
[2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
202-737-2800
__________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>; LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
I didn't get Bob's response I think the list server is still acting up.
I ran Virginia City Hillclimb in 2009, been meaning to run again but
always seemed to be out of town, maybe this year will be the year now
I'm retired (well that's what they called it when they laid me off last
October!).
I ran it in the Ultima and had a few teething problems wit the cable
shifter, plus they wouldn't let me run slicks my first year running. I
ran a respectable 3:43, if I recall the best overall run of the weekend
was 3:26, but the big hurdle is to get below 3:41 as the highway used
is HWY 341. The challenge is they won't tell you your run times until
the Sunday evening banquet.
All the Ferrari folks were a bit put out as the red Ultima attracted
way more attention than the other red cars! Folks were waiting with
helmets in hand trying to bum rides up the hill. One girl probably
regretted that when her driver put his brand new Z06 over the edge,
luckily he went straight down the Canyon and didn't roll, but still
totaled the car. Another Ferrari F355 challenge car ended up upside
down on fire after a rear tire blew out, fortunately the driver was
fully kitted out and only received minor burns. I decided an open car
with minimal roll over protection was not the ideal vehicle to be
pushing it any harder, but it sure is a fun event.
Julian
> If one were to go through the hassle of towing a car out west, it
would
> seem that the VA City Hillclimb and Silver State would be two
events to
> do together?
> Any thoughts on the Silver State?
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [1]centralwines.com
> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Bob <[3]rcbsons1 at aol.com <javascript:;>>
> To: LSJ <[4]lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>" <[6]detomaso at poca.com
> <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> Virginia City Hillclimb
> Ferrari and Shelby club event
> First day is practice... Roughly 5-7 runs up the hill. Second day
is
> the timed runs. 4-5 runs
> The goal is to be under 4 minutes
> Record is by the former owner of Spector air cleaners in an F40
> Really cool guy that I have talked to several times. He was. 3 min
8
> seconds I believe
> 5.1 miles approx 22 turns and going up over 1000 feet in elevation
> Speeds up to 125 mph no guard rails
> and big drop offs Very challenging and kind of like having your
car
> on a 4 minute dyno
> Very dangerous as they have killed many on the hill They say it
takes
> about 4 years of running it to really learn the road
> In an old mining town that has cool saloons where everyone dresses
up
> like cowboys and wears real guns
> Again my favorite event Sort of a mini Pikes Peak. I have only
done it
> once as too many other things going on but am going to try again
this
> year as I am not getting any younger
> Very close to Reno Nevada and near our buddy Julian. He posted a
U
> tube video of me taking off Go to u tube and Virginia city
Hillclimb
> Pantera. It should come up
> Bob Benson
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:58 PM, LSJ <[3][7]lashdeep at yahoo.com
<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> It seems like the event gives you a lot of interesting seat time
which
> is important for the time/$$$ outlay.
> I also like the mix of driving events between the AX and open
track.
> Tell us about the Virginia City Hillclimb also please.
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [4]centralwines.com
> [5]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Bob <[6][8]rcbsons1 at aol.com <javascript:;>>
> To: LSJ <[7][9]lashdeep at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "[8][10]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>"
<[9][11]detomaso at poca.com
> <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> Very well run event. Long day on Saturday. Great people and
really
> tough completion. Many purpose built cars. I was thinking of
running
> in Vegas but trying to get my other car (firebird ) ready for the
> season
> A well prepped Pantera could do well
> Tires are a key. You need the best 200 rated tires which are
really
> like a Dot road race tire. Brakes are critical for the stop box.
My
> Pantera was 12 th in that sector 3 years back at the Sema final
> Will be to another soon.
> Second best event I have done
> Virginia City Hillclimb is the best ever
> Bob
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 5:27 PM, LSJ <[10][12]lashdeep at yahoo.com
<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> Bob, tell us more about your Optima Street car event experiences.
> I've been trying to convince Ron that we need to build something
for
> that event.
>
> LSJ
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [11]centralwines.com
> [12]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: bens1 via DeTomaso <[13][13]detomaso at poca.com
<javascript:;>>
> To: [14][14]detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:16 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vegas track time
> If you really want to run your car in Vegas you can enter the
> Optima Ultimate Street car qualifier.. it is April 15-17
> For $750 you can run as many stop boxes you can on
> half of Saturday -15-20 if you hurry.. then go over to the
autocross
> track and run that for another 15-20 times.. go on a cruise that
> evening to show the car is street worthy .. then on Sunday run
the
> track in 3-4 sessions... lots of time to beat on that Pantera
> testing brakes, clutch and tires to the limit
> And my comment on the proper use of the back screen is
> to run your 4" straight 180 headers thru it.. then there will
> be a lot of flow going outward only... trust me:)
> Bob Benson
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