[DeTomaso] One step forward, two steps back
Brian Dudley
bd8134 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 28 14:21:20 EDT 2015
An old picture of my 78 Pantera fuse panel.
My horn relay would be bottom left.
http://f.cl.ly/items/1Y0B23120e1Y0r1y1V1u/DSC05232.JPG
A picture from PanteraPlace also bottom left side.
http://www.panteraplace.com/Electrical/relays%20late.jpg
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for all the help. Several people told me I should look for the brown
> wire on the relay and ground it to see if the horn sounds.
>
> Problem - I don't have any brown wires on the horn relay. But the relay
> that is supposedly located where the horn relay is has a lot more wires
> than
> appear on the wiring diagram. Am I looking in the right place? There's a
> perfect diagram of the relay layout on Wilkinson's page:
>
> http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill23b.html
>
> Does anyone know if the late model cars put some other relay there instead?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com]
> Sent: domingo, 27 de septiembre de 2015 18:41
> To: 'Charles McCall'; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] One step forward, two steps back
>
> Sorry to hear all your woes from the trip.
>
> As for the horn, assuming the wiring to your compressor was the original
> wiring, have you tried jumper around the horn button switch to verify the
> other wiring is making connections?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> McCall
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] One step forward, two steps back
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> After my 6100km road trip from Spain to Sweden this summer, my car fell
> apart on the way home.
>
>
>
> Both door locks were damaged during a theft attempt (along with 5 other
> Panteras) in Copenhagen.
>
>
>
> My radiator started leaking just about as fast as I could pour water into
> the tank (but we got home without overheating, so I won't complain)
>
>
>
> AS mentioned here, I found that one of my rims developed a serious crack.
> And last but not least, my horns stopped working.
>
>
>
> I was all excited yesterday because I had changed one of the locks in the
> door and it works well, and as an added bonus I changed the bulbs in the
> door so that they now come on when you open the door. I had forgotten about
> them, to be honest!
>
>
>
> Today I set about doing what I thought would be an easy task - changing the
> horns. I bought a new Hella airhorn a few weeks ago. The swap itself was
> fairly straightforward - remove the stock Fiamm compressor and I actually
> decided to leave the stock horn bodies and just use the new Hella
> compressor. Before putting the panel back in the car I checked to make sure
> everything worked properly, and with 12v to the compressor it blows quite
> loud, especially when you are holding them in your hands.
>
>
>
> I installed the panel in the car, turned the key on and hit the horn
> button.
> and was greeted by silence.
>
>
>
> My horn relay is new. The compressor works, as demonstrated during the
> pre-installation test. What would people suggest I check to determine what
> the problem is? It could be the turn signal stalk, but those are expensive
> and I'd rather not just throw money at the problem before being able to
> determine exactly where the problem is. What's the troubleshooting
> procedure
> now?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Signed, rather discouraged. Only 9 months until Le Mans Classic and at this
> rate I'm walking..
>
>
>
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An old picture of my 78 Pantera fuse panel.
My horn relay would be bottom left.
[1]http://f.cl.ly/items/1Y0B23120e1Y0r1y1V1u/DSC05232.JPG
A picture from PanteraPlace also bottom left side.
[2]http://www.panteraplace.com/Electrical/relays%20late.jpg
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Charles McCall
<[3]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the help. Several people told me I should look for
the brown
wire on the relay and ground it to see if the horn sounds.
Problem - I don't have anyA brown wires on the horn relay. But the
relay
that is supposedly located where the horn relay is has a lot more
wires than
appear on the wiring diagram. Am I looking in the right place?
There's a
perfect diagram of the relay layout on Wilkinson's page:
[4]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill23b.html
Does anyone know if the late model cars put some other relay there
instead?
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:[5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com]
Sent: domingo, 27 de septiembre de 2015 18:41
To: 'Charles McCall'; [6]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] One step forward, two steps back
Sorry to hear all your woes from the trip.
As for the horn, assuming the wiring to your compressor was the
original
wiring, have you tried jumper around the horn button switch to
verify the
other wiring is making connections?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Charles
McCall
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 11:47 AM
To: [8]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] One step forward, two steps back
Hi all
After my 6100km road trip from Spain to Sweden this summer, my car
fell
apart on the way home.
Both door locks were damaged during a theft attempt (along with 5
other
Panteras) in Copenhagen.
My radiator started leaking just about as fast as I could pour water
into
the tank (but we got home without overheating, so I won't complain)
AS mentioned here, I found that one of my rims developed a serious
crack.
And last but not least, my horns stopped working.
I was all excited yesterday because I had changed one of the locks
in the
door and it works well, and as an added bonus I changed the bulbs in
the
door so that they now come on when you open the door. I had
forgotten about
them, to be honest!
Today I set about doing what I thought would be an easy task -
changing the
horns. I bought a new Hella airhorn a few weeks ago. The swap itself
was
fairly straightforward - remove the stock Fiamm compressor and I
actually
decided to leave the stock horn bodies and just use the new Hella
compressor. Before putting the panel back in the car I checked to
make sure
everything worked properly, and with 12v to the compressor it blows
quite
loud, especially when you are holding them in your hands.
I installed the panel in the car, turned the key on and hit the horn
button.
and was greeted by silence.
My horn relay is new. The compressor works, as demonstrated during
the
pre-installation test. What would people suggest I check to
determine what
the problem is? It could be the turn signal stalk, but those are
expensive
and I'd rather not just throw money at the problem before being able
to
determine exactly where the problem is. What's the troubleshooting
procedure
now?
Thanks.
Signed, rather discouraged. Only 9 months until Le Mans Classic and
at this
rate I'm walking..
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References
1. http://f.cl.ly/items/1Y0B23120e1Y0r1y1V1u/DSC05232.JPG
2. http://www.panteraplace.com/Electrical/relays%20late.jpg
3. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
4. http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill23b.html
5. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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