[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 135, Issue 24
Owen Cooke
owen at tadhgcooke.com
Wed Sep 23 06:23:20 EDT 2015
Guys
can you help with some information
i just bought a 1972 pantera and the clutch slave cylinder is inside
the bell housing
i have never seen such an arrangement before and all the photos i see
clearly show the slave cyl on the right side of the bell housing- not mine
So how can you adjust clearance etc on this
the flexihose for fluid goes in on the right and a bleed niple is on the
left side ???
owen cooke dublin ireland
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> 1. Re: New POCA Chapter (marshall smith)
> 2. Fiero seats in a Pantera (Bob Radefeld)
> 3. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Larry - Ohio Time)
> 4. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Jeff Detrich)
> 5. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Michael Shortt)
> 6. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Douglas Kelm)
> 7. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (LS)
> 8. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Himes, Terry (397C))
> 9. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Michael Shortt)
> 10. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Jeff Detrich)
> 11. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Douglas Kelm)
> 12. NPC (Paul Timko)
> 13. Re: Fiero seats in a Pantera (Jim Gray)
> 14. Marvic Wheel 10x15 Campi Update (Ed Mendez)
> 15. Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)
> 16. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Paul Timko)
> 17. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Will Kooiman)
> 18. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)
> 19. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Himes, Terry (397C))
> 20. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Rob Dumoulin)
> 21. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Mike Drew)
> 22. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Ken Green)
> 23. Re: Alternate possibilities to the Pantera (Julian Kift)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:13:35 -0700
> From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> To: detomaso at poca.com, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New POCA Chapter
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> Hey Michael,
>
> Congrats and kudos to you for starting a new chapter!! The popularity of our cars and our national chapter has been waning in the last few years. Thank goodness our cars have doubled in value AND there are still people like you willing to start new clubs and keep the interest in our cars from dying. I truly hope that you have not received allegations of starting a turf war. My goodness....we all graduated from junior high school a long time ago!
>
> Keep up the great work Michael with you new chapter!!
>
> Marshall Smith
> President, San Diego Panteras
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 9/19/15, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New POCA Chapter
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2015, 3:22 PM
>
> ???> Greetings to
> All ,
> ???>
> ???> I am getting emails, texts, telephone
> calls, etc. regarding my
> ???efforts to form a new POCA chapter.
> ???> Efforts which were started many years
> ago and finally just recently
> ???blessed by POCA,A? long before
> efforts were made to resurrect the
> ???former dormant -ish Southeast Panteras
> Chapter.
> ???> As with all things seemingly
> unplanned, it seems that my efforts and
> ???those of Southeast Pantera hit their
> respective stride at about the
> ???same time.
> ???> Let me categorically state that I
> have no interest in some kind of
> ???turf war ( as has been rumored ) or
> contest to sign up members.
> ???> I also have no interest in Florida at
> all, it is simply too far away
> ???to be conducive
> ???> IMHO to attract active participation
> from the membership I am
> ???seeking.
> ???>
> ???> i.e. My home to Miami is over 500
> miles away / 8 hours of driving at
> ???normal speeds.
> ???>
> ???> I live in Savannah, Georgia and the
> proposed moniker of our chapter
> ???is Southern States Panteras. My primary
> target area for membership is
> ???Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina,
> Alabama and Eastern Tennessee.
> ???> All of which is within a 6 hour
> circle of influence and contains more
> ???active racetracks that I can count, the
> incredible Great Smokey Mtns
> ???and of course all things NASCAR plus a
> great many concourse events,
> ???shows and loads of tech points of
> interest.
> ???> We have no desire to be a sit in
> folding chairs while bench racing
> ???and polishing crowd.
> ???> As the founder of the twice run
> Detomaso Pantera Summer Summit, I
> ???have already put together Pantera related
> rallys. Additionally I am a
> ???former SCCA CSR champion, driving
> instructor and board member. I
> ???currently teach/coach with HPDE group
> Hooked on Driving at various SE
> ???tracks.
> ???>
> ???> My plan for Southern States
> ???> involves a smattering of concourse
> meetings, mtn rallys, Track days,
> ???tech visits to cool shops, and plain old
> ???> Get togethers throughout the year.
> ???>
> ???> I forsee a friendly, reciprocal and
> supportive relationship
> ???> With Southeast Pantera. I would hope
> that their members would attend
> ???our events and that they will extend
> invitations to our membership to
> ???their events ( as they already have to me
> to attend the Lake Mirror
> ???Classic).
> ???>
> ???> We are seeking POCA members living in
> GA, SC, NC, AL, and TN to
> ???affiliate with Southern States, all they
> have to do is notify Judy at
> ???POCA and its a done deal.
> ???>
> ???> I hope this puts to rest any kind of
> competition BS, there is none. I
> ???fully support the efforts of SE Panteras
> ???> And hope they support ours.
> ???>
> ???> It is simply a matter of geography
> and trying to involve as many
> ???active participants as possible for both
> groups.
> ???> Two is better than one.
> ???>
> ???> Thank you,
> ???>
> ???> Michael Shortt
> ???> Founding Chairman
> ???> Southern States Panteras.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:17:33 -0500
> From: Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
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> Hello fellow Forum members,
>
> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I know
> that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would really
> like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how well you
> like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could share your
> experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly appreciated. I'm
> planning on possibly doing this as a winter project this year when the snow
> starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in site that any of you are
> willing to share with me! :o))
>
> Bob Radefeld #5042
> Topeka, Ks.
> bob at radefeld.com
> 785-478-9360 (cell)
> -------------- next part --------------
> Hello fellow Forum members,
> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
> Topeka, Ks.
> [1]bob at radefeld.com
> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com
> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:43:01 -0400
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> To: "'Bob Radefeld'" <bob at radefeld.com>, "'detomaso at poca com'"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID: <00152EE3D7FA473BA375E767492423DE at LarryHPPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bob my friend,
>
> I do have some Fiero seats for sale if you are interested.
>
> I hope you are well!!
>
> Larry (need re-covering) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Bob Radefeld
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:18 PM
> To: detomaso at poca com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Hello fellow Forum members,
>
> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I know
> that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would really
> like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how well you
> like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could share your
> experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly appreciated. I'm
> planning on possibly doing this as a winter project this year when the snow
> starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in site that any of you are
> willing to share with me! :o))
>
> Bob Radefeld #5042
> Topeka, Ks.
> bob at radefeld.com
> 785-478-9360 (cell)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:04:20 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID:
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>
> Fiero Seats look like this, pics 1-2. The fiero rails do not match up with
> the pantera rails as attached to the floor pan. The Pantera rails are
> better. You need to build a spacer that moves the attach point for the
> fiero seats to the attach point for mounted Pantera rails. See pics 3-4.
> Right and left seats are different. Take your time measuring and fitting to
> get it right.
>
> People sometimes buy the earlier seats with the speakers in the headrest.
> They aren't very effective IMHO.
>
> They fiero seats are a little higher than Pantera seats. Make sure you fit.
> You can pull off a little of the foam in the center of the seat but it
> won't buy you muck more space.
>
> I also had to remove a lot of the foam from the bottom of the seat to get
> them to slide over the carpet.
>
> Mr. Mikes makes leather seat covers and they can embroider the logo in them.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow Forum members,
>> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>> Topeka, Ks.
>> [1]bob at radefeld.com
>> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com
>> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Fiero Seats look like this, pics 1-2. The fiero rails do not match up
> with the pantera rails as attached to the floor pan. The Pantera rails
> are better. You need to build a spacer that moves the attach point for
> the fiero seats to the attach point for mounted Pantera rails. See pics
> 3-4. Right and left seats are different. Take your time measuring and
> fitting to get it right.
> People sometimes buy the earlier seats with the speakers in the
> headrest. They aren't very effective IMHO.A
> They fiero seats are a little higher than Pantera seats. Make sure you
> fit. You can pull off a little of the foam in the center of the seat
> but it won't buy you muck more space.
> I also had to remove a lot of the foam from the bottom of the seat to
> get them to slide over the carpet.
> Mr. Mikes makes leather seat covers and they can embroider the logo in
> them.
> Good luck.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bob Radefeld <[1]bob at radefeld.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A Hello fellow Forum members,
> A A Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually
> have a
> A A question that has not already been discussed recently on the
> Forum. I
> A A know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car &
> I would
> A A really like to get some information on how you accomplished
> this & how
> A A well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you
> could
> A A share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be
> greatly
> A A appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter
> project
> A A this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS
> for any in
> A A site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
> A A Bob Radefeld AA #5042A
> A A Topeka, Ks.
> A A [1][2]bob at radefeld.com
> A A [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
> References
> A A 1. mailto:[3]bob at radefeld.com
> A A 2. tel:785-478-9360
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:13:10 -0400
> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> To: bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID:
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> Bob,
>
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
>
> Michael Shortt
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow Forum members,
>> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>> Topeka, Ks.
>> [1]bob at radefeld.com
>> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com
>> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>>
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> Bob,
>
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <[1]bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
> A A Hello fellow Forum members,
> A A Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually
> have a
> A A question that has not already been discussed recently on the
> Forum. I
> A A know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car &
> I would
> A A really like to get some information on how you accomplished
> this & how
> A A well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you
> could
> A A share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be
> greatly
> A A appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter
> project
> A A this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS
> for any in
> A A site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
> A A Bob Radefeld AA #5042A
> A A Topeka, Ks.
> A A [1][2]bob at radefeld.com
> A A [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
> References
> A A 1. mailto:[3]bob at radefeld.com
> A A 2. tel:[4]785-478-9360
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:41:29 -0500
> From: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net>
> To: "'Jeff Detrich'" <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, "'Bob Radefeld'"
> <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "'detomaso at poca com'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID: <00e901d0f4c7$0a0ce1b0$1e26a510$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dakelm/albums/72157619124819022
>
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account. These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly at: dakelm at qwest.net Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
>
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 PM
> To: Bob Radefeld
> Cc: detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Fiero Seats look like this, pics 1-2. The fiero rails do not match up with the pantera rails as attached to the floor pan. The Pantera rails are better. You need to build a spacer that moves the attach point for the fiero seats to the attach point for mounted Pantera rails. See pics 3-4.
> Right and left seats are different. Take your time measuring and fitting to get it right.
>
> People sometimes buy the earlier seats with the speakers in the headrest.
> They aren't very effective IMHO.
>
> They fiero seats are a little higher than Pantera seats. Make sure you fit.
> You can pull off a little of the foam in the center of the seat but it won't buy you muck more space.
>
> I also had to remove a lot of the foam from the bottom of the seat to get them to slide over the carpet.
>
> Mr. Mikes makes leather seat covers and they can embroider the logo in them.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow Forum members,
>> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>> Topeka, Ks.
>> [1]bob at radefeld.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC)
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> To: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net>, 'Jeff Detrich'
> <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, 'Bob Radefeld' <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "'detomaso at poca com'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID:
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>
> Fiero or Corvette seats??
> Please tell me why you wouldn't just install a set of Italian made Momo (also an original OEM supplier) seats?
> They are superbly built and don't look like...well, seats out of a Pontiac.
> LS
> ?
>
>
> central wines-spirits?? est 1934
>
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> centralwines.com
>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>
> 202-737-2800
>
>
> From: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net>
> To: 'Jeff Detrich' <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; 'Bob Radefeld' <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "'detomaso at poca com'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dakelm/albums/72157619124819022
>
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account. These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly at:? dakelm at qwest.net? Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
>
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 PM
> To: Bob Radefeld
> Cc: detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Fiero Seats look like this, pics 1-2. The fiero rails do not match up with the pantera rails as attached to the floor pan. The Pantera rails are better. You need to build a spacer that moves the attach point for the fiero seats to the attach point for mounted Pantera rails. See pics 3-4.
> Right and left seats are different. Take your time measuring and fitting to get it right.
>
> People sometimes buy the earlier seats with the speakers in the headrest.
> They aren't very effective IMHO.
>
> They fiero seats are a little higher than Pantera seats. Make sure you fit.
> You can pull off a little of the foam in the center of the seat but it won't buy you muck more space.
>
> I also had to remove a lot of the foam from the bottom of the seat to get them to slide over the carpet.
>
> Mr. Mikes makes leather seat covers and they can embroider the logo in them.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
>> ? ? Hello fellow Forum members,
>> ? ? Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> ? ? question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> ? ? know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> ? ? really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> ? ? well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> ? ? share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> ? ? appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> ? ? this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> ? ? site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> ? ? Bob Radefeld A? #5042A
>
>> ? ? Topeka, Ks.
>> ? ? [1]bob at radefeld.com
>> ? ? [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>>
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>>
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>> ? ? 2. tel:785-478-9360
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> Fiero or Corvette seats??
> Please tell me why you wouldn't just install a set of Italian made Momo
> (also an original OEM supplier) seats?
> They are superbly built and don't look like...well, seats out of a
> Pontiac.
> LS
>
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
> 625 e street nw
> washington, dc 20004
> [1]centralwines.com
> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 202-737-2800
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net>
> To: 'Jeff Detrich' <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; 'Bob Radefeld'
> <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "'detomaso at poca com'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> [3]https://www.flickr.com/photos/dakelm/albums/72157619124819022
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car
> (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2
> 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account.
> These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have
> only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with
> custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock
> sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests
> (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail
> connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly
> at: [4]dakelm at qwest.net Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear
> Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Detrich
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 PM
> To: Bob Radefeld
> Cc: [6]detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Fiero Seats look like this, pics 1-2. The fiero rails do not match up
> with the pantera rails as attached to the floor pan. The Pantera rails
> are better. You need to build a spacer that moves the attach point for
> the fiero seats to the attach point for mounted Pantera rails. See pics
> 3-4.
> Right and left seats are different. Take your time measuring and
> fitting to get it right.
> People sometimes buy the earlier seats with the speakers in the
> headrest.
> They aren't very effective IMHO.
> They fiero seats are a little higher than Pantera seats. Make sure you
> fit.
> You can pull off a little of the foam in the center of the seat but it
> won't buy you muck more space.
> I also had to remove a lot of the foam from the bottom of the seat to
> get them to slide over the carpet.
> Mr. Mikes makes leather seat covers and they can embroider the logo in
> them.
> Good luck.
> Jeff
> 6559
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bob Radefeld <[7]bob at radefeld.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello fellow Forum members,
> > Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have
> a
> > question that has not already been discussed recently on the
> Forum. I
> > know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I
> would
> > really like to get some information on how you accomplished this &
> how
> > well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you
> could
> > share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
> > appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter
> project
> > this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for
> any in
> > site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
> > Bob Radefeld A #5042A
> > Topeka, Ks.
> > [1][8]bob at radefeld.com
> > [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
> >
> > References
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> > 2. tel:785-478-9360
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 23:50:22 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, bob Radefeld
> <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID: <D225E56C.7E568%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I also have those. They lined up well and used the Pantera rails I believe. Mine are all black.
>
> More than willing to sell them.
>
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> ??
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:13 PM
> To: bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com<mailto:bob at radefeld.com>>
> Cc: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Bob,
>
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
>
> Michael Shortt
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <bob at radefeld.com<mailto:bob at radefeld.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Forum members,
> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
> Topeka, Ks.
> [1]bob at radefeld.com<mailto:bob at radefeld.com>
> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com
> 2. tel:785-478-9360
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> I also have those. They lined up well and used the Pantera rails I
> believe. Mine are all black.
> More than willing to sell them.
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Michael
> Shortt <[3]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:13 PM
> To: bob Radefeld <[4]bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: POCA <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Bob,
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
> Michael Shortt
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <[6]bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Forum members,
>
> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>
> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum.
> I
>
> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I
> would
>
> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this &
> how
>
> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>
> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>
> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter
> project
>
> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for
> any in
>
> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>
> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>
> Topeka, Ks.
>
> [1][7]bob at radefeld.com
>
> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>
> References
>
> 1. [8]mailto:bob at radefeld.com
>
> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:53:27 -0400
> From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> To: "Terry Himes (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> In my case, I have more torso than legs, even the stock seats are too tall
> for me, Esp with a helmet.
> The C4 seat with the spring removed is about as low as you can get without
> cutting the floorplan.
>
> Michael
> On Sep 21, 2015 7:50 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> I also have those. They lined up well and used the Pantera rails I
>> believe. Mine are all black.
>>
>> More than willing to sell them.
>>
>>
>>
>> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>>
>> * exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>>
>> * to contact us!"*
>>
>>
>> *Terry W. Himes *
>>
>> *JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
>>
>> *InSight Sequence Team Lead*
>>
>> *Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
>>
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>>
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
>> *thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>*
>>
>> ??
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Michael Shortt <
>> michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> Date: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:13 PM
>> To: bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>
>> Cc: POCA <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
>> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello fellow Forum members,
>> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>> Topeka, Ks.
>> [1]bob at radefeld.com
>> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com <bob at radefeld.com>
>> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>>
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> In my case, I have more torso than legs, even the stock seats are too
> tall for me, Esp with a helmet.
> The C4 seat with the spring removed is about as low as you can get
> without cutting the floorplan.
>
> Michael
>
> On Sep 21, 2015 7:50 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
> <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> I also have those.A They lined up well and used the Pantera rails I
> believe.A Mine are all black.
> More than willing to sell them.
>
> "SometimesA IA think the surest signs that intelligent lifeA
>
> A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>
> A to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. HimesA
>
> JPLA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: [2](818) 393-6261
>
> Cell:A A A A [3](818) 653-8213
>
> Fax:A A A A [4](818) 393-3147
>
> [5]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> d--od-,
> From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Michael
> Shortt <[7]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:13 PM
> To: bob Radefeld <[8]bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: POCA <[9]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Bob,
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
> Michael Shortt
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <[10]bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
> A A A A Hello fellow Forum members,
>
> A A A A Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually
> have a
>
> A A A A question that has not already been discussed recently on the
> Forum. I
>
> A A A A know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car &
> I would
>
> A A A A really like to get some information on how you accomplished
> this & how
>
> A A A A well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you
> could
>
> A A A A share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be
> greatly
>
> A A A A appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter
> project
>
> A A A A this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS
> for any in
>
> A A A A site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>
> A A A A Bob Radefeld AA A #5042A
>
> A A A A Topeka, Ks.
>
> A A A A [1][11]bob at radefeld.com
>
> A A A A [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>
> References
>
> A A A A 1. [12]mailto:bob at radefeld.com
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:36:45 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net>
> Cc: Bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>, "detomaso at poca com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net> wrote:
>
>> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car
>> (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2
>> 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account. These
>> seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have only been
>> trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with custom
>> fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock sliders - plug
>> and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests (first two years of
>> Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail connectors. Boxed and
>> ready to ship. If interested, email me directly at: dakelm at qwest.net
>> Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear Corp (the jet people) and are
>> excellently constructed.
>>
>> Doug Kelm
>> Minneapolis, MN
>>
> BTW, the Fiero seats are very comfy. Dougs look like the spacer adapters
> are very well thought out and made.
>
> Jeff
> -------------- next part --------------
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Douglas Kelm <[1]dakelm at qwest.net>
> wrote:
>
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car
> (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2
> 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account.
> These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have
> only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with
> custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock
> sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests
> (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail
> connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly
> at:A [2]dakelm at qwest.netA Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the
> Lear Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> BTW, the Fiero seats are very comfy. Dougs look like the spacer
> adapters are very well thought out and made.
> Jeff
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:dakelm at qwest.net
> 2. mailto:dakelm at qwest.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:17:23 -0500
> From: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net>
> To: "'Jeff Detrich'" <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: "'Bob Radefeld'" <bob at radefeld.com>, "'detomaso at poca com'"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID: <00ff01d0f4d4$70089880$5019c980$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks Jeff. I just want to point out that more than a little design and fabrication went into those adapter bars. First off, they are not interchangeable, passenger and driver side. The passenger side is offset to avoid interference with the parking brake handle enclosure (aided by a redesign of the pivot bolt to gain more clearance). So, FWIW, installing Fiero seats in a Pantera is a little more involved than what it may seem like. Also, you may be able to pick up a little headroom by eliminating the spacers under the stock sliders, and, of course, there?s always the option of dropping the floor pans it you are particularly long in the torso.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Detrich [mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:37 PM
> To: Douglas Kelm
> Cc: Bob Radefeld; detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net> wrote:
>
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account. These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly at: dakelm at qwest.net Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
>
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
>
>
> BTW, the Fiero seats are very comfy. Dougs look like the spacer adapters are very well thought out and made.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Thanks Jeff. I just want to point out that more than a little design
> and fabrication went into those adapter bars. First off, they are not
> interchangeable, passenger and driver side. The passenger side is
> offset to avoid interference with the parking brake handle enclosure
> (aided by a redesign of the pivot bolt to gain more clearance). So,
> FWIW, installing Fiero seats in a Pantera is a little more involved
> than what it may seem like. Also, you may be able to pick up a little
> headroom by eliminating the spacers under the stock sliders, and, of
> course, there's always the option of dropping the floor pans it you are
> particularly long in the torso.
>
> Doug
>
>
> From: Jeff Detrich [mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:37 PM
> To: Douglas Kelm
> Cc: Bob Radefeld; detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Douglas Kelm <[1]dakelm at qwest.net>
> wrote:
>
> These are MrMikes covered Fiero seats that I was going to put in my car
> (since sold), but discovered (too late) that I was too tall! You lose 2
> 3/8" of head room over the stock seats, so take that into account.
> These seats were in near mint condition prior to recovering and have
> only been trial fitted in a car - like new condition. They come with
> custom fabricated adapter bars which will bolt directly to stock
> sliders - plug and play. They also have the speakers in the headrests
> (first two years of Fiero production only) and come with the pigtail
> connectors. Boxed and ready to ship. If interested, email me directly
> at: [2]dakelm at qwest.net Fiero seats were made for Pontiac by the Lear
> Corp (the jet people) and are excellently constructed.
> Doug Kelm
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> BTW, the Fiero seats are very comfy. Dougs look like the spacer
> adapters are very well thought out and made.
>
>
> Jeff
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:dakelm at qwest.net
> 2. mailto:dakelm at qwest.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:09:53 -0500
> From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
> To: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC
> Message-ID:
> <CA+d1_LFTnOozQq4Tm9_5KOyR-aT-eOP9nc1O9T4tWj+pU5kWFw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Sorry, just testing new email account settings.
>
> Paul
> #9270
> -------------- next part --------------
> Sorry, just testing new email account settings.
> Paul
> #9270
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:44:49 -0500
> From: "Jim Gray" <grayjim at cox.net>
> To: "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, "bob Radefeld"
> <bob at radefeld.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
> Message-ID: <03590D3D29434350A6BB344876D7E405 at AdminPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
> reply-type=original
>
> I'm with you Michael. I've had Corvette seats in my car for many years after
> two long distance drives from OK to Santa Fe told me "no more!" for the
> stock seats. I did have one of our Pantera brethren in the Houston club
> reweld the stock brackets so the driver's seat was centered behind the wheel
> and the passenger seat was moved a far right as possible. Works quite well.
>
> YMMV
>
> Jim Gray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Shortt
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:13 PM
> To: bob Radefeld
> Cc: detomaso at poca com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fiero seats in a Pantera
>
> Bob,
>
> My seats ( made by Gary Herrig ) are from a C4 Corvette, a lot more
> plentiful than Fire seats with lots of aftermarket seat cover options.
>
> Michael Shortt
> On Sep 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Bob Radefeld" <bob at radefeld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow Forum members,
>> Being a daily Forum lurker it is very seldom that I actually have a
>> question that has not already been discussed recently on the Forum. I
>> know that some of you have installed Fiero seats in your car & I would
>> really like to get some information on how you accomplished this & how
>> well you like them compared to the stock seats. If any of you could
>> share your experience with me in this endeavor it would be greatly
>> appreciated. I'm planning on possibly doing this as a winter project
>> this year when the snow starts flying here in Kansas. THANKS for any in
>> site that any of you are willing to share with me! :o))
>> Bob Radefeld A #5042A
>> Topeka, Ks.
>> [1]bob at radefeld.com
>> [2]785-478-9360A A (cell)
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:bob at radefeld.com
>> 2. tel:785-478-9360
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:40:53 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, San Diego Panteras
> <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, Don Byars <preprobro at aol.com>, Bruce
> Singer <iamhp005 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Marvic Wheel 10x15 Campi Update
> Message-ID: <C3CD94EC-7B89-4825-978F-D67E7A990507 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> All,
>
> My friends at Marvic have informed me that they just started casting the first of the Campi 10x15 long rib design, and the 8x15 fronts and they are taking deposits. The cost will be ?1500 for the 10x15 each and ?1280 for the 8x15 each.
>
> The 10x15 short alternating rib design will be come soon as well with similar price points. They will send me pictures of the finished products when complete.
>
> Please contact Marvic directly for the deposit information and to get you name on the list.
>
> mailto:info at marvic.it
>
> tel:+39-0332%20463386
>
> Regards, Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> -------------- next part --------------
> All,
> My friends at Marvic have informed me that they just started casting
> the first of the Campi 10x15 long rib design, and the 8x15 fronts and
> they are taking deposits. The cost will be EUR1500 for the 10x15 each
> and EUR1280 for the 8x15 each.
> The 10x15 short alternating rib design will be come soon as well with
> similar price points. They will send me pictures of the finished
> products when complete.
> Please contact Marvic directly for the deposit information and to get
> you name on the list.
> [1]mailto:info at marvic.it
>
> [2]tel:+39-0332%20463386
>
> Regards, Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:info at marvic.it
> 2. tel:+39-0332%20463386
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:51:11 -0700
> From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> To: "List DeTomaso" <Detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <9EBDFD5FC6C6461E8CC00F55CA11ED4E at BOSS3A>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume production sports car,
>
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC with their AMX/3, to market.
>
>
>
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know about - the Boomerang.
>
>
>
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo Dallara chassis.
>
>
>
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>
> What did he envision the future might look like?
>
>
>
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running, registered, driving car.
>
>
>
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
>
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume
> production sports car,
>
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC
> with their AMX/3, to market.
>
>
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know
> about - the Boomerang.
>
>
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo
> Dallara chassis.
>
>
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>
> What did he envision the future might look like?
>
>
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running,
> registered, driving car.
>
>
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto
> Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:54:12 -0500
> From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <560187B4.1070102 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> This has a very strange steering wheel/dash.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 9/22/2015 11:51 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
>> Maserati Boomerang
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:04:53 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <67D8DBED-C805-40CE-9DB3-A255BA36286A at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I have that car in a large coffee table book on concept cars. It's one of the best in the book.
>
> The cover has the car that Foose's son copied with a Pantera as a base.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> This has a very strange steering wheel/dash.
>>
>> Paul
>> #9270
>>
>>> On 9/22/2015 11:51 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
>>> Maserati Boomerang
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:18:20 -0700
> From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> To: "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: "List DeTomaso" <Detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <BF1597765B59432C8DDEAECB8ED97019 at BOSS3A>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Doesn't the steering wheel concept look like a harbinger of the modern
> "all in your hands" steering wheel of Formula 1 today?
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> This has a very strange steering wheel/dash.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 9/22/2015 11:51 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
>> Maserati Boomerang
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:44:07 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>, List
> DeTomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <D226E140.7E7F8%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Wow! Looks like?gulp? dare I say it. a DeLoren (sp?)
>
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> ??
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:51 AM
> To: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume production sports car,
>
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC with their AMX/3, to market.
>
>
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know about - the Boomerang.
>
>
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo Dallara chassis.
>
>
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>
> What did he envision the future might look like?
>
>
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running, registered, driving car.
>
>
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Wow! Looks like...gulp... dare I say it. a DeLoren (sp?)
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of The DeTomaso
> Registry Guy <[3]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:51 AM
> To: POCA <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume
> production sports car,
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC
> with their AMX/3, to market.
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know
> about - the Boomerang.
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo
> Dallara chassis.
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the
> Pantera?
> What did he envision the future might look like?
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running,
> registered, driving car.
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto
> Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
> Enjoy,
> Chuck Melton
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
> [5]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:46:00 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID:
> <CAEr4y_uWzfst2+h6yTU81qpKuoPrFdLUk-LAm0qbv_CN4N9BGw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> That would be scary-deadly side impact!
>
> Thanks for sharing, Chuck.
>
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <
> detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
> -------------- next part --------------
> That would be scary-deadly side impact!
> Thanks for sharing, Chuck.
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [1]rob at dumoulins.net
> [2]www.kbsi.co
> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy
> <[4]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A A
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 4. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:54:36 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <A07C5D69-1C68-431F-8868-8A0BDEB73164 at aol.com>
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>
> I e seen this car in the flesh several times. It's very extreme and likely VERY hot inside. But it's certainly distinctive!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 9:51, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>>
>> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume
>> production sports car,
>>
>> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC
>> with their AMX/3, to market.
>>
>>
>> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know
>> about - the Boomerang.
>>
>>
>> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>>
>> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo
>> Dallara chassis.
>>
>>
>> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>>
>> What did he envision the future might look like?
>>
>>
>> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running,
>> registered, driving car.
>>
>>
>> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto
>> Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>>
>> Chuck Melton
>>
>>
>>
>> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>>
>> [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:14:13 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Paul Timko
> <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID:
> <1029613244.1685587.1442945653981.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Reminds me of the "Star?" Pantera Chip Foose's father built that was based on the?design of the?1968 Alfa Romeo Carabo:
> http://95octane.com/2014/07/18/1972-sam-foose-pantera-for-sale/
> A steath Pantera to evade police radar?
> Ken
> ? From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
> I have that car in a large coffee table book on concept cars.? It's one of the best in the book.
>
> The cover has the car that Foose's son copied with a Pantera as a base.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> This has a very strange steering wheel/dash.
>>
>> Paul
>> #9270
>>
>>> On 9/22/2015 11:51 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
>>> Maserati Boomerang
>>
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> Reminds me of the "Star?" Pantera Chip Foose's father built that was
> based on the design of the 1968 Alfa Romeo Carabo:
> [1]http://95octane.com/2014/07/18/1972-sam-foose-pantera-for-sale/
> A steath Pantera to evade police radar?
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> I have that car in a large coffee table book on concept cars. It's one
> of the best in the book.
> The cover has the car that Foose's son copied with a Pantera as a base.
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Paul Timko <[2]thedrol at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This has a very strange steering wheel/dash.
> >
> > Paul
> > #9270
> >
> >> On 9/22/2015 11:51 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
> >> Maserati Boomerang
> >
> >
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:21:30 -0700
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: "Himes, Terry 397C" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, The DeTomaso
> Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>, De Tomaso List
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Message-ID: <BAY173-W32C5AF083D31D8DEDED77A95450 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Not surprising then that Giugiaro designed the DeLorean DMC-12
>
> From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
> To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com; Detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:44:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
> Wow! Looks like?gulp? dare I say it. a DeLoren (sp?)
>
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> ??
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:51 AM
> To: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume production sports car,
>
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC with their AMX/3, to market.
>
>
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know about - the Boomerang.
>
>
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo Dallara chassis.
>
>
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>
> What did he envision the future might look like?
>
>
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running, registered, driving car.
>
>
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto Giugiaro designed Maserati Boomerang.
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
>
>
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> Not surprising then that Giugiaro designed the DeLorean DMC-12
>
> From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
> To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com; Detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:44:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
> Wow! Looks likea|gulpa| dare I say it. a DeLoren (sp?)
>
>
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> to contact us!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> InSight Sequence Team Lead
> Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Regional indicator for USA
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on
> behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasor
> egistry at gmail.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:51 AM
> To: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alternate possibilities to the Pantera
>
>
> I have been researching the period around when the Pantera was new,
>
> including the challenge to produce the first mid-engined large-volume production
> sports car,
>
> with Ford racing to beat Chevy with their mid-engine Corvette, and AMC with thei
> r AMX/3, to market.
>
>
> As a side note I received fresh photos of a car that some may not know about - t
> he Boomerang.
>
>
> You know Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the Mangusta.
>
> You know Tom Tjaarda designed the Pantera body to go over the Paolo Dallara chas
> sis.
>
>
> Now what if Giorgetto Giugiaro was turned loose to design the Pantera?
>
> What did he envision the future might look like?
>
>
> We are not talking about a prototype body but this is a running, registered, dri
> ving car.
>
>
> On the Registry "cover" page (Member Main) is a link to the Giorgetto Giugiaro d
> esigned Maserati Boomerang.
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
>
>
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