[DeTomaso] NPC: Calf title paperwork

[Ed Pike]

Larry,

You may have to return that stuff signed and filled in before they ship or
you pick up the car.

It seems to me that if you can just ignore all that paperwork then this
would be a good way to "wash" a title with a troubled history ( flood
damage, salvage title, stolen? ) and end up with a clean title. I kind of
thought that the feds put an  end to that stuff a long time ago. It might
be good advice to check with the Ohio BMV and see what you need to do to
get a title and then get plates.

Thanks,

Ed....

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
wrote:

>    Ok guys I pulled the trigger and bought a Jaguar from California and
>    paid for it. Today I get a packet of paperwork from the used car
>    dealer. Boy this is not how we do it in the grand old state of Ohio.
>    Look at this mess.
>
>
>     1. I get a Nevada title for the car in the name of the lady who traded
>        it to a Honda dealer in Las Vegas. The back of the title is signed
>        over to California Auto Auction. Nothing is notarized.
>     2. I get a small form from Cal DMV "vehicle auction wholesale report
>        of sale". It shows the auction name and the used car dealer's name
>        as buyer. Nothing is notarized.
>     3. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
>        reassignment form". Looks to be a bill of sale from the auction
>        company to the used car dealer.
>     4. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
>        reassignment form" Looks to be a bill of sale from the used car
>        dealer to me. It is asking for my signature and returned to them.
>        It also asks for my signature to appoint the used car dealer to be
>        my power of attorney to complete necessary paperwork and transfer
>        ownership. Hmmmm...
>     5. I get a form "contract cancellation option agreement" looking for
>        my signature to decline it.
>
>
>
>    Is any of this normal? We call this skipping a title here and it is not
>    a legal thing to do. Do I just sign all this before the car gets here?
>    Did he really ship it yet?
>
>
>    In Ohio a dealer buys a car. He gets a title that has the back filled
>    in with his name, miles and a notarized signature of the seller. The
>    dealer transfers the tile into there name and get a new title. When it
>    is sold the same thing happens...simple.
>
>
>    Larry (lost) - Cleveland
>
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Ed...
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   Larry,
   You may have to return that stuff signed and filled in before they ship
   or you pick up the car.A
   It seems to me that if you can just ignore all that paperwork then this
   would be a good way to "wash" a title with a troubled history ( flood
   damage, salvage title, stolen? ) and end up with a clean title. I kind
   of thought that the feds put an A end to that stuff a long time ago. It
   might be good advice to check with the Ohio BMV and see what you need
   to do to get a title and then get plates.
   Thanks,
   Ed....

   On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   <[1]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

     A  A Ok guys I pulled the trigger and bought a Jaguar from
     California and
     A  A paid for it. Today I get a packet of paperwork from the used
     car
     A  A dealer. Boy this is not how we do it in the grand old state of
     Ohio.
     A  A Look at this mess.
     A  A  1. I get a Nevada title for the car in the name of the lady
     who traded
     A  A  A  A it to a Honda dealer in Las Vegas. The back of the title
     is signed
     A  A  A  A over to California Auto Auction. Nothing is notarized.
     A  A  2. I get a small form from Cal DMV "vehicle auction wholesale
     report
     A  A  A  A of sale". It shows the auction name and the used car
     dealer's name
     A  A  A  A as buyer. Nothing is notarized.
     A  A  3. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
     A  A  A  A reassignment form". Looks to be a bill of sale from the
     auction
     A  A  A  A company to the used car dealer.
     A  A  4. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
     A  A  A  A reassignment form" Looks to be a bill of sale from the
     used car
     A  A  A  A dealer to me. It is asking for my signature and returned
     to them.
     A  A  A  A It also asks for my signature to appoint the used car
     dealer to be
     A  A  A  A my power of attorney to complete necessary paperwork and
     transfer
     A  A  A  A ownership. Hmmmm...
     A  A  5. I get a form "contract cancellation option agreement"
     looking for
     A  A  A  A my signature to decline it.
     A  A Is any of this normal? We call this skipping a title here and
     it is not
     A  A a legal thing to do. Do I just sign all this before the car
     gets here?
     A  A Did he really ship it yet?
     A  A In Ohio a dealer buys a car. He gets a title that has the back
     filled
     A  A in with his name, miles and a notarized signature of the
     seller. The
     A  A dealer transfers the tile into there name and get a new title.
     When it
     A  A is sold the same thing happens...simple.
     A  A Larry (lost) - Cleveland
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