[DeTomaso] NPC: Calf title paperwork

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Thu Sep 17 16:37:51 EDT 2015


Hey Larry-- Do you have possession of the car and a bill of sale?  If
yes, read on. (If not, you are in a pickle and hopefully you haven't
paid any money). Never mind DMV CA or NV or the used car dealer.  As
long as you have the car in Ohio, you can ignore them.  It is up to
the seller to report the vehicle as sold and you have no obligation to
a former state DMV.  What matters is what Ohio requires to plate it.  
As long as you have a bill of sale you should be fine.  Check with
your local DMV and ask them how you title a car you bought "bill of
sale only". In CA I have purchased cars, motorcycles with screwed-up
paperwork from other states or no official paperwork at all.  All I do
is toss the out-of-state paperwork and take a handwritten bill of sale
to the DMV, fill out their "bill of sale" form and pay their fees. 
Never had a problem getting a plate and sticker right then and there. 
Sometimes they need to look at the VIN, sometimes they don't. This
always works because documentation carried by owners is commonly lost
or destroyed.  Sometimes a seller will slack-off and not report a
vehicle being sold either.  All DMV's have a procedure for dealing
with this.  A bill of sale between you and the seller indicating VIN #
should be all you need. What any DMV is really looking out for is that
the vehicle has not been reported stolen and it would appear that you
are in the clear.  
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On September 17, 2015 at 9:32 AM, "Larry - Ohio Time"  wrote:Ok guys I
pulled the trigger and bought a Jaguar from California and paid
for it. Today I get a packet of paperwork from the used car dealer.
Boy this
is not how we do it in the grand old state of Ohio. Look at this mess.
1. I get a Nevada title for the car in the name of the lady who traded
it to a Honda dealer in Las Vegas. The back of the title is signed
over to
California Auto Auction. Nothing is notarized. 
2. I get a small form from Cal DMV "vehicle auction wholesale report
of
sale". It shows the auction name and the used car dealer's name as
buyer.
Nothing is notarized.
3. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
reassignment
form". Looks to be a bill of sale from the auction company to the used
car
dealer.
4. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
reassignment
form" Looks to be a bill of sale from the used car dealer to me. It is
asking for my signature and returned to them. It also asks for my
signature
to appoint the used car dealer to be my power of attorney to complete
necessary paperwork and transfer ownership. Hmmmm.
5. I get a form "contract cancellation option agreement" looking for
my
signature to decline it.
Is any of this normal? We call this skipping a title here and it is
not a
legal thing to do. Do I just sign all this before the car gets here?
Did he
really ship it yet?
In Ohio a dealer buys a car. He gets a title that has the back filled
in
with his name, miles and a notarized signature of the seller. The
dealer
transfers the tile into there name and get a new title. When it is
sold the
same thing happens.simple.
Larry (lost) - Cleveland
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   Hey Larry--



   Do you have possession of the car and a bill of sale?  If yes, read on.
   (If not, you are in a pickle and hopefully you haven't paid any money).



   Never mind DMV CA or NV or the used car dealer.  As long as you have
   the car in Ohio, you can ignore them.  It is up to the seller to report
   the vehicle as sold and you have no obligation to a former state DMV.
   What matters is what Ohio requires to plate it.   As long as you have a
   bill of sale you should be fine.  Check with your local DMV and ask
   them how you title a car you bought "bill of sale only".

   In CA I have purchased cars, motorcycles with screwed-up paperwork from
   other states or no official paperwork at all.  All I do is toss the
   out-of-state paperwork and take a handwritten bill of sale to the DMV,
   fill out their "bill of sale" form and pay their fees.  Never had a
   problem getting a plate and sticker right then and there.  Sometimes
   they need to look at the VIN, sometimes they don't.

   This always works because documentation carried by owners is commonly
   lost or destroyed.  Sometimes a seller will slack-off and not report a
   vehicle being sold either.  All DMV's have a procedure for dealing with
   this.  A bill of sale between you and the seller indicating VIN #
   should be all you need.

   What any DMV is really looking out for is that the vehicle has not been
   reported stolen and it would appear that you are in the clear.

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   On September 17, 2015 at 9:32 AM, "Larry - Ohio Time"
   <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

     Ok guys I pulled the trigger and bought a Jaguar from California and
     paid
     for it. Today I get a packet of paperwork from the used car dealer.
     Boy this
     is not how we do it in the grand old state of Ohio. Look at this
     mess.
     1. I get a Nevada title for the car in the name of the lady who
     traded
     it to a Honda dealer in Las Vegas. The back of the title is signed
     over to
     California Auto Auction. Nothing is notarized.
     2. I get a small form from Cal DMV "vehicle auction wholesale report
     of
     sale". It shows the auction name and the used car dealer's name as
     buyer.
     Nothing is notarized.
     3. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
     reassignment
     form". Looks to be a bill of sale from the auction company to the
     used car
     dealer.
     4. I get a form from Cal DMV, "vehicle/vessel transfer and
     reassignment
     form" Looks to be a bill of sale from the used car dealer to me. It
     is
     asking for my signature and returned to them. It also asks for my
     signature
     to appoint the used car dealer to be my power of attorney to
     complete
     necessary paperwork and transfer ownership. Hmmmm.
     5. I get a form "contract cancellation option agreement" looking for
     my
     signature to decline it.
     Is any of this normal? We call this skipping a title here and it is
     not a
     legal thing to do. Do I just sign all this before the car gets here?
     Did he
     really ship it yet?
     In Ohio a dealer buys a car. He gets a title that has the back
     filled in
     with his name, miles and a notarized signature of the seller. The
     dealer
     transfers the tile into there name and get a new title. When it is
     sold the
     same thing happens.simple.
     Larry (lost) - Cleveland


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